Posted on 02/26/2013 8:10:18 AM PST by Kaslin
I have to admit, as recently as the publication of Ann Coulter’s book “Treason”, I viewed Joseph McCarthy as an unfortunate but likely deserving blemish on conservatism. I would wince when discussing him, and say with authority “Well, whatever he did, he did it all wrong, and hurt innocent people, and...” and so on.
When I read “Treason”, I was puzzled. That version of history was quite different than the one I had been taught and grown up with.
It was so diametrically opposed, that as I weighed both versions, I was struck that one version or the other could be right, because that meant the other version was a complete and total fabrication and lie.
The lie was being told by either Ann Coulter, or it was being told by the media and the educational resources in this country.
There was no middle ground. And that is a rather large and barren middle ground, with black on one side, and white on the other.
So I read. I have read at least a dozen separate books on this period, and even more, I got the actual transcripts of the McCarthy hearings, which you can get online.
And I read them.
What I found out was that Ann Coulter’s version is far, FAR closer to the truth than any version I had ever heard, if simply reading the transcripts is any indication (which I think it is)
I have always been a conservative, even when I was a ten year old kid watching the political scene in the mid-sixties. (My dad was military, and all those people on the left were demonizing people like him, so I instinctively was against them)
But I still had little twinges of leftism. Why couldn’t we give some government money to those in need? (Not just food and other assistance, but actual money) Why is having the state taking a larger hand in education a bad thing? Won’t it provide consistency? And so on. Like a lot of people I know, I didn’t think it through. It felt right.
But my investigation into this, and reading the book “Witness” by Whittaker Chambers pushed me full force against any and all forms of leftism.
I have come to view being a little leftist as being a little pregnant.
We see the tactics of the left, as practiced against Whittaker Chambers and Joseph McCarthy fully engaged and utilized against anyone who disagrees with them today.
As such, I believe it is vitally important to set the record straight, and to stop the flooding of leftism at all costs. It is the greatest and gravest threat to this republic in its history.
Ok, tell me the names of ten people he accused of being communists who were not.
A large number of members of Congress were alcoholics. Speaker Carl Albert used to routinely pass out in the stairwell of the capitol buildings. Because he was a Democrat, you hear no complaints.
"paranoid"
You mean he had no reason to be, what with the entire leftist media and political establishment out to take him down ?
"and often wrongly accused people of being Commies."
Who ? Name names.
Yes,all that’s true to some degree, and ultimately helped
discredit McCarthy, his apparent objectives, and his reputation. But he was thwarted at every step along the way.
It was forced off the tracks and got bogged down in lurid side-issues, like Roy Cohn and David Schine.
Remember that as McCarthy’s popularity grew, along with his approval by masses of the American public, the need to destroy him became all that much more urgent.
The entire McCarthy “project” should thus be seen as a trial run, more than a half-century ago, at how vexing it would be
for any lone crusader to find out the truth about what was actually going in even the very upper levels of government.
True McCarthyism found its true voice only thirty years later, in the persona of one Edward Kennedy, and what he did and was able to get away with, during the hearing for Robert Bork. The American Left has never looked back from that, instead they’ve perfected the demagogic techniques they so confidently accused McCarthy of. What we have today is the true “McCarthyism”, and it’s aided and abetted by the omnipresent and many-headed MSM and pop culture.Consider who this country has elected for President TWICE, and how blithely and proudly ignorant the MSM AND Establishment Politicians are and/or pretended to be as to the true character and Agenda of Barack Obama, and you’ve got some perspective on the matter.
Well, we shall see. He is one of two things: someone who is misinformed as many of us have been on this subject, or a troll, coward and leftist.
Why someone like that would frequent FR is beyond me, so as the Lawyer for Lt. Maryk in “The Caine Mutiny”, I will assume by default that someone frequenting FR for 12 years is not acting out of cowardice, but has other causes for exhibited behavior or opinion.
I will give him the benefit of the doubt for the time being.
I don’t need a burden of him finding 10 people. I will settle for one name to begin the discussion. Shouldn’t be too hard on his part to find just one.
I think that is a reasonable request, don’t you?
I view McCarthy’s alcohol abuse (which was probably the strongest determining factor in his death) as a reaction to the long term struggle that he carried on, nearly singlehandedly for the better part of five years.
In defense of his country, he sacrificed his reputation, and eventually, his life.
The left killed him as sure as if they had fired a bullet into his brain.
Ask a leftist. He’ll give you the answer. It was those Hollywood people,Trumbo, Lawson, Hellman, Chandler, etc. You know, “The House un-American Activities Committee”. But McCarthy was a “SENATOR”, having nothing to do with “The House Committee on Un-American Activities”. Note the difference in a “liberals” name for the committee. Grammatically it has the Committee “committing” the un-American activities. You can tell a leftist by the way they say the name
I always enjoy watching committed leftists stepping on their own crank by committing that error.
Unfortunately, they have no shame. It usually has no effect.
Not to mention the political damage it would do to McCarthy's detractors. “National rage” was possible in that era because the public was mostly aware of the extent and malignancy of worldwide Soviet subversion. Today the mass media continues to distort the record. George Clooney’s 2005 film “Goodnight and Good Luck” was based on Edward Murrow's CBS TV interview of Senator McCarthy. The movie portrayed State Department official Laurence Duggan as a victim of McCarthy. Duggan, a friend of Murrow, committed suicide after being questioned by the FBI about his ties to the KGB. The Left, including Murrow, defended Duggan as a loyal American.
In 1990 deciphered Soviet message traffic was released by the NSA proving Duggin was a KGB agent. This was further substantiated by a former KGB official. Duggan’s spy role was collecting classified State Department telegrams and passing them to his Soviet handler. Clooney, the director of “Goodnight and Good Luck,” left this fact out of the film.
Communism was not headquartered in Moscow but run out of Wall Street and the City of London.
WALL STREET AND THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION
FROM MAJOR JORDAN'S DIARIES - Atomic Tech Shipped to the Soviets
That McCarthy was a heavy drinker isn’t really at question. McCarthy died of hepatitis, believed to be exacerbated by alcoholism. Was he an alcoholic, I guess I believe he was. There’s certainly a lot written of his heavy drinking. I have read that he falsely accused a black woman of being a communist and that Edward Murrow took him to task on the accusation. While he was likely right about many communists in the US and their subversive activities, we may never know who he may have falsely accused, since he refused to make public a number of names he claimed were communists. Truly an interesting person from the 50s
I spoke to a Democrat officeholder and historian and he told me alcoholism was an epidemic in DC amongst officeholders of both parties (less so today). Unless it was on such public display that resulted in homicide (Ted Kennedy) or just an embarrassing situation with your stripper girlfriend (Wilbur Mills), if every "alcoholic" had been outed, you'd have emptied out a huge % of Congress. I believe there was a gentleman's agreement between the parties to not bother passing proverbial judgment on the members' drinking habits. That's why it was so audacious when ex-Sen. John Tower's alcoholism was put up by the Dems front and center to defeat him for Defense Secretary. The hypocrisy was epic.
In McCarthy's case, it was probably both the stress of the job, but also that drinking was so much a part of the DC culture.
The infamous Annie Lee Moss, who played dumb and innocent during her questioning. Evidence proved she was guilty of the allegation. Even in Clooney's film (but only in the commentary), Clooney had to admit she was guilty.
In re “the blacklistings in Hollywood.”
Joseph McCarthy was a Senator(my own U. S. Senator at the time of the hearings) had no connection or influence with the House Committee on Un-American Activities, which was responsible for the “black listing” of Hollywood Reds, if such did occur.
Close, key advisors to Pres. FDR were Communists.
Joe should have smart enough to tone down his attacks, since everyone was telling him to shut up. But he loved the limelight too much. Still he did not deserve what he got from the senate, and of course, much less injustice was done during his time than during the Red Scare following WWI. Palmerism” would be a more fitting term.
Agreed. I think he died a broken man.
On the issue of the black woman, she WAS not only a working member of the communist party, but deliberately tried (and succeeded with the help of a willing media) to obfuscate it as a case of “mistaken identity”. It was nothing of the sort. You are referring to Annie Lee Moss, a black woman who was a civilian employee of the US Army. She was also a due paying member of the communist party that they dropped from their ranks when she went to work for the General Accounting Office.
She said it was mistaken identity, being identified as she was, and the liberals of the day (including Murrow, who knowingly or unknowingly was a shill of the left) TOOK IT AT FACE VALUE AND DECLARED THE CASE CLOSED. (Sound familiar? Just the way things go when liberals today say they are innocent of any wrongdoing, and that is taken as an aquittal)
The thing that exposed it as an outright obfuscation, if not lie, is that she said when being interviewed by McCarthy that she lived at a certain address. The communist party records, which became public record a few years later clearly showed an Annie Lee Moss living at that exact same address.
The FBI spoke with the Democrat members of the panel several weeks before the hearing where Annie Lee Moss and the liberals forwarded the “mistaken identity” excuse, and Scoop Jackson, after reading the FBI report, said he had “no doubt whatsoever” about the communist party affiliation of Annie Lee Moss. And Jackson, that paragon of virtue, knew. He knew, and never said a word during the hearings about the FBI report. Kind of puts him in a different light to me.
Bottom line, she wasn’t innocent. Was not.
Let’s put it this way. McCarthy was vindicated in a tidal wave of truth when the Venona Files were opened back in the 90’s, and the vast majority those “innocent” victims were shown to be nothing of the sort.
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