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To: rbmillerjr; All
"No. The joke is on people who think they can interpret the Constitution with a straw man 2nd grade interpretation that is best utilized watching cartoons and InfoWars."

instead of resorting to ad hominims to challenge the constitutionally substantiated points that I have made concerning federal marriage laws, I ask if you would please volunteer any clause in the Constitution to substantiate your seeming stance that the states have indeed delegated to Congress the specific power to regulate marriage. (Or do you possibly not understand why the Constitution was made in the first place?)

Otherwise, I have poined out the black and white fact that, since the term "marriage" cannot be found in the Constituton, there is no way that any of the clauses in Section 8 of Article I, or clauses in any other part of the Constitution, can be reasonably construed as an express delegation of power to Congress by the states to address marriage issues, including to define marriage as a one man, one woman union.

In other words, Congress cannot make laws to protect one man, one woman marriage any more than it can make laws regulating our 1st Amendment protections.

And given that the 10th Amendment clarifies that powers not reasonably delegated to Congress are reserved uniquely to the states or the people (paraphrased), it's sad that many of the states, evidently inexcusably unaware that Congress has no constitutional authority to regulate marriage, have foolishly put their faith in the constitutionally indefensible federal DOMA Act, as opposed to making their own 10th Amendment protected laws to protect one-man, one-woman marriage.

Finally, there's been nothing to stop the states from using their unique, Article V power to ratify proposed amendments to the Constitution to do so to make traditional one man, one woman unions a constitutonally protected right. But the fact that Constitution-ignorant patriots applauded Congress for making constitutionally indefensible federal DOMA without a proper amendment to the Constitution to enable Congress to make such legislation means that the Constitution is essentially dead because patriots themselves don't know the Constitution. (Constitutonally ignorant "patriots" arguably deserve corrupt Congress and corrupt presidents.)

49 posted on 02/24/2013 12:19:25 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

“instead of resorting to ad hominims to challenge the constitutionally substantiated points that I have made”

You started with the ad hominems with your sarcastic comment to another poster about “having not read...the Constitution”. Because others disagree with you, you resort to the snark and thus opened up that can of worms.

“In other words, Congress cannot make laws to protect one man, one woman marriage any more than it can make laws regulating our 1st Amendment protections.”

Sure they can. And they do. Some are unconstitutional and others are not.

“Congress has no constitutional authority to regulate marriage, have foolishly put their faith in the constitutionally indefensible federal DOMA Act, as opposed to making their own 10th Amendment protected laws to protect one-man, one-woman marriage.”

So, the states have the right to redefine a word that has been culturally accepted for hundreds of years in this country and thousands of years worldwide?

The common sense error that you make is that some states will right foolish laws, even unconstitutional in some cases, yet affirmed by Blue state State Supreme Courts.

The legal and constitutional song you are singing, has long since sailed through the night. You are absolutely incorrect and the Supremacy clause and Necessary and Proper Clauses in the same Constitution you cite have been ruled consistently to defeat your position.

So, we conservatives can do what you are doing. We can pretend we live in a fantasy land and not play in the arena.

The other option is to play by the rules of the game that have been set. Socialist politicians are going to play fool court press and we can either play defense and lose by time and attrition, or we can play by the same set of rules and attempt to win, as they do.


52 posted on 02/24/2013 4:30:46 PM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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