Posted on 02/16/2013 10:33:20 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
Somebody mentioned that they probably figure the battle is won (the battle vs Republicans) and the intramurals have begun.
I don’t know whether to cheer or cry....
Bull cheet...
Hear the sound of the crickets from the U.S. media about this statement which is pretty radical considering the gummint policies, subsidies and propaganda. Nissan as well as Toyota have said "Sayonara" to the hybrid nonsense. Maybe Yugo will pick up the ball to satisfy the lone enthusiast above.
And yet I was told just above that my post was bullsh*t.
Right. I make this stuff up. NOT.
I've used them as well as gasoline and propane models.
{don't like the propane stink though.]....ha
Is that the best ya got? Just go into denial mode because you didn't read it in the AMERICAN media? ROFL!
Bill Gate
“640K should be enough for anybody”
Takehisa Yaegashi, the inventor of the Toyota Prius recently said
battery technology and electric/hybird vehicles had reached their technology capabilities
Your post #68 and the link from it say it well for me.
BTW, I see you read the same article(s) that I did on this topic. Isn't it interesting that the American newsmedia is completely IGNORING the inventor of the Prius' statements that hybrid technology is pretty much at a stand-still, and absent a major breakthrough in battery technology (which hasn't happened in 25 years...) that conventional gas and diesel engines will SURPASS mileage and performance of hybrids very quickly.
No surprise, look at the number of reasonably sized & priced vehicles that now get 40+mpg on the highway. That's easily within spitting distance of the oft over-hyped 50mpg of the Prius, which seldom achieves that level of efficiency in America due to driving habits, roads, etc..
Look, if you believe battery technology has reached it’s technological capabilities and has hit a wall, I can’t help ya. If ya do some research you’ll find battery technology is being developed and improved all the time.
Suggest you go back and re-read what I posted with a fresh set of eyes, specifically my posts #68 and 69. Not saying it's "not possible." Am saying it's going to take a long time based on the last "major advancement" being 25 years ago.
Look, I personally know several folks at Argonne National Labs. (Suggest you google Argonne National Labs.) They received a substantial Government Grant to do the very thing I posted: a "Manhattan project" for the next battery technology. The announcement they received the funding was HUGE, made national news. (Perhaps you missed it?)
These are people who are "true believers" in green energy/green technologies. THEY SAY it'll take potentially several decades to advance battery technology to where it needs to be, which is longer lasting, quicker charging to compete with conventional hydro-carbon fueled engines. In their words "they have to invent the technology to invent the technology" to make the breakthroughs they believe they already know must happen.
Now if you put Takehisa Yaegashi's (inventor of the Prius for Toyota) comments in that context - he's exactly right that conventional gasoline and diesel engine technology will surpass battery based vehicle technologies in achieving new efficiencies.
If it's not obvious to you that's true, suggest you look at average vehicle MPG over the last 40 years vs. battery lifetime and technology over the last 40 years. There's no comparison which technology is advancing faster. Any reasonable person with a basic understanding of the two technologies can see that. The data's on the internet if you care to look.
Not saying it's "not possible." Am saying it's going to take a long time based on the last "major advancement" being 25 years ago.
More bull cheet...
Now ya suggest battery technology has not reached technological capabilities and will just take more time..
Which is it?
BTW, has the gas engine reach it's max level of efficiency? No? It's still being develop?
Get real.
Audi A8, of course. Don't know what made me type BMW.
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