Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Mr Rogers
WKA quotes Minor twice:

No kidding. I've established this several times. It quotes Minor to define NBC as "all children born in the country to parents who were its citizens." And this quote specifically contradicts what you claim about WKA equating NBC with NBS. All you have is BS.

In Minor v. Happersett, Chief Justice Waite, when construing, in behalf of the court, the very provision of the Fourteenth Amendment now in question, said: “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens.

The 14th amendment does NOT say who shall be natural-born citizens ... therefore NBS can NOT be NBC. Period. Learn it. Understand it.

Since the case involved a woman born in the USA, raised in the USA, having lived her entire life in the USA, with 2 citizen parents, NO ONE had any reasonable question about her citizenship.

Doofus, you just quoted another case explaing how Minor dealt with citizenship. You're arguing against yourself. And you're missing an important point. Viriginia Minor claimed to be a citizen via the 14th amendment which is what she claimed gave her voting rights. The court rejected the citizenship argument and thus the voting argument. It was a package deal. Why else did they say anything about citizen parent??

316 posted on 02/22/2013 7:49:44 PM PST by edge919
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 314 | View Replies ]


To: edge919

“The 14th amendment does NOT say who shall be natural-born citizens ... therefore NBS can NOT be NBC.”

That is NOT what the court said, tho, is it? It said:

“In Minor v. Happersett, Chief Justice Waite, when construing, in behalf of the court, the very provision of the Fourteenth Amendment now in question, said: “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.” And he proceeded to resort to the common law as an aid in the construction of this provision. 21 Wall. 167.”

A paragraph later, they go on to analyze the meaning of NBC, using the common law meaning of natural born subject since, after all:

“The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established.”

The same rule:

1 - In the English Colonies
2 - at Independence
3 - In the US prior to the Constitution, and
4 - continued UNDER the Constitution, which can only be true if NBC = NBS.

I don’t post this to you, edge, because you are not sane. But anyone who reads should read WKA for themselves:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZO.html


317 posted on 02/22/2013 8:08:49 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 316 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson