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To: butterdezillion
You seem to be getting unduly angry about this mess.

Let me propose to you a hypothetical in a separate field. Suppose that a young man named Joe Stalin applies to his state licensing agency to take the test to receive a physicians license. Suppose that the licensing board fails to discover that young Joe is lacking some required prerequisite to take the test and he then takes the test, passes the test and is given a license to practice medicine in the state.

Suppose that "Dr. Stalin" then begins practicing medicine in a large hospital and after performing a relatively routine surgery writes an order that the patient should be given an important medicine at 7:00 p.m. that evening. Nurse Penelope is assigned that patient that evening. Nurse Penelope once dated Dr. Stalin and she knows that Dr. Stalin did not have all of the proper prerequisites to take his licensing test. She thus concludes that Dr. Stalin should not have been permitted to take his licensing test, that Dr. Stalin should not have received a license and that Dr. Stalin is not her mind a real doctor. Accordingly, when she learns shortly before 7:00 p.m. that "Dr. Stalin" has been treating the patient, she refuses to provide the patient with the prescription medicine ordered by Dr. Stalin. The patient does not die, but becomes temporarily very sick because administration of the medicine was delayed until after Penelope finds her supervisor and tells her supervisor that she won't comply with Dr. Stalin's orders (because in her mind he isn't really a doctor) and the supervisor later finds someone else to administer the medicine.

The supervisor then reports this incident to hospital administrators, who fire poor Penelope for what the hospital deems to be "just cause" as described in the termination provisions of her employment contract. Penelope then sues the hospital, claiming that there was no "just cause" for her termination because she could not in good conscience behave as though Dr. Stalin's orders were the orders of a real, qualified treating physician.

You be the judge.

194 posted on 02/16/2013 9:51:15 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food
Suppose that "Dr. Stalin" then begins practicing medicine in a large hospital and after performing a relatively routine surgery writes an order that the patient should be given an important medicine at 7:00 p.m. that evening.

Which one?

This guy?

Or this guy?


197 posted on 02/16/2013 10:20:55 AM PST by x
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To: Tau Food

No, what would be equivalent is that the nurse follows orders for about 2 years while she asks for the medical community to check into the dr’s credentials. They refuse, saying that if he’s dispensing medicine he must already be a qualified doctor. So she refuses to dispense the prescriptions that this follower of the Hemlock Society prescribes, saying it violates the Hippocratic Oath that she took, to preserve life - in order to force somebody to examine whether this guy is from the Hemlock Society and only got his license through fraud, forgery, and perjury.

They fire her and throw her in jail because she didn’t follow orders, saying it wouldn’t matter if he got his license through fraud and was really a member of the Hemlock Society intending to kill his patients. Even if the nurse KNEW he was dispensing medicines with the intent to kill, his intentions/qualifications/crimes committed to get his license would be “irrelevant”. Her job is just to do as she is told; the Hippocratic Oath she took means nothing.

Now you be the judge.


199 posted on 02/16/2013 10:46:26 AM PST by butterdezillion
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