Posted on 02/11/2013 3:11:37 AM PST by Sub-Driver
Pope Benedict XVI 'is to resign' Breaking news
The Pope is to resign at the end of this month in an entirely unexpected development, reports from the Vatican say.
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Apparently, like many Americans these days, you are not very familiar with GOOD. May our Father in heaven forgive you.
Cardinal Burke would be better if the nex pope happens to be American
Pope Benedict is extremely good as a scholar and theologian. he did not believe he was good enough to fill the shoes of a charismatic person like Pope John Paul II.
And, as a person, he definitely was not. He looked old and frail before JP II died, but since then he actually looks younger -- and the only explanation is the Holy Spirit looking after and over him
Would love that.We met him years ago when Pope John Paul was in the US.
No surprise to me. At one time a post had to have substance. The board at large demanded it. That is long gone. I've just resigned myself to expect it.
I sort of find it funny that the MSM is prognosticating Cardinal Turkson...a Ghanan and the President of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace.
Naturally, the libs believe that this would be a good, "progressive" choice.
However, Cardinal Turkson also basically said that Americans (left-wingers, specifically) have no clue whatsoever about what Social Justice actually means. In a 2011 interview with CNA, he said:
The council has been surprised to find that common terms were misunderstood or misinterpreted. He emphasized that the misunderstanding was not a general or widespread problem among American Catholics. But, he said, "in certain circles ... there is a difficulty."For instance, the Pope's teaching on themes of "social justice" have been mistakenly connected to "socialism" and "communism." As a result, he indicated, the Pope is mistakenly seen as promoting socialist or big-government solutions to social problems.
So, if, in the end, he is elected, methinks that the left will be massively surprised.
Myself, I like Raymond Cardinal Burke. Conventional wisdom says he is WAAAAAAAY too conservative to be viable. However, conventional wisdom also said that Cardinal Ratzinger was WAAAAAAAY too conservative to be viable not that many years ago.
Bottom line, it's up to the Holy Spirit.
No.
exactly and both have done bounds to show that the office and the protection of God is more important than any individual
Cardinal Burke would be a prayer come true!
Benedict isn’t slavic....
Cardinal Burke would be a prayer come true!
turkson is extremely conservative! Hooray!
Sheesh.
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I suspect he is severely ill with a disease that he would not like to bear publicly, nor be able to act with, when action is needed.
Hopefully his first thought was to shepherding the best choice of his successor to avoid contention.
Actually there were African and Syrian Popes in the first centuries. I think one of the early Popes was also a black African (Nubian) as opposed to the Greek or Berber North African popes
My money is on an African. And no it is not ghoulish to speculate. Conclave, of which I have witnessed two, (I lived in Roma from 1976-1979, an era of three Popes) and its secrets breeds speculation..
lots, didn’t you read the ones above about resignations?
“Benedict was a conservative, and good for pro-life Catholics”
The Catholic Church will always be conservative, always pro-life, always for REAL marriage, and will never have woman priests. The reason? The Bible is unchanging. Popes live and die, only the unchanging Holy Word of God remains the same.
The absolutely beautiful Litany of the Saints will be sung as the Cardinals enter the conclave once again.
You’re still an idiot...
...please don’t tell him that...he’ll get a swelled head...
I’m not Catholic, but I am curious. Just wondering, do you have a link to the prophecies made about Pope Benedict?
Most potent pot there is and a huge cash crop for the Pontifical Commission...(what, you thought tithes alone kept the randy rascals in booze and broads?)
...plus the "Holy Smoke" exorcises demons;)
I would think just the opposite. He would resign to help effect a smooth transition rather than the turmoil as sudden, unexpected death would occasion. Plus, he would get to spend his last days with his God, friends and family apart from the distractions of office.
He’s in his eighties and has had a couple of strokes in the past. No doubt declining health.
I hope not, last one was in 1415.
Yes, but I wouldn’t call him extremely conservative either.
He has called for taxes on financial transactions in “Towards Reforming the International Financial and Monetary Systems in the Context of a Global Public Authority” was that was very specific, as well as condemning the “idolatry of the markets” and “neo-liberal [economic] thinking”.
http://www.news.va/en/news/full-text-note-on-financial-reform-from-the-pontif Published in October of 2011.
Actually, the next pope will be Petrus Romanus, the False Prophet who will introduce the Beast to the world. End Times events are accelerating.
It was just yesterday I was in a bookstore looking at a book about the life of Celestine V, the last pope to voluntarily resign.
My heart doesn’t bleed for pedophiles or those who protect them.
When I first saw this I prayed it was not true. It is deeply troubling. There are so few voices for orthodoxy left in leadership, be they Catholic or Protestant. B16 was a lion among simpering sheep. He will be sorely missed.
Not to question google, but, although there were three men claiming to be the pope, only one would be the true pope. The other two would be regarded by Catholics as "anti popes."
In every era, there are oddballs who claim to be pope. That wasn't the case in the 1400s, where the true papal succession was controversial.
“Benedict isn’t slavic....”
Yes, I am aware of that.
“Windswept House” was a novel of intrigue that Martin described as “faction.”
“The Slavic Pope” was a thinly veiled reference to John Paul II, who was Polish, Poland being one of the Slavic nations.
You are right. We’ve had 3 African Popes. Pope Gelasius I (492, Berber North African), Pope Miltiades (314, African but no details as to what part), & Pope Victor I (189, Roman African Provinces which could stretch from Libya to Ethopia).
Forgot to add that Pope Victor I was generally called the first Black African pope.
Hi CatherineofAragon,Pope Benedict did not say that.I don’t have a link I just remember reading it.If someone reminds me I’ll ping you.
I hope the next one will be George the Ethiopian or something like that so the History(sic) channel and websites can stop pushing these Nostradamus crackpot prophecies(sic)
NNNOOOOOOO!! :-(
“...Former Popes usually join monasteries....”
Well, in our lifetime, most former Popes are dead. This is a first in our lifetime, a Pope is resigning. Thought I’d never, ever see that. I wish Pope Benedict well with the rest of his life.
Thanks, fatima...I appreciate it.
I am not Catholic, but I am saddened to hear this. Pope Benedict is a man who wasn’t afraid to uncompromisingly stand for traditional Christian values, no matter how unpopular.
Don’t think that one is from Nostradamus.
If there’s a chance that ‘Peter the Roman’ is an Italian, Cardinal Scola might be a good pick.
“...Cardinal Dolan of New York is said to be one possible candidate....”
I read something about Papal succession that said the someone from a superpower country wouldn’t be considered. If true, that would rule Cardinal dolan out.
Frankly, I don't think we can predict anything. The conclave's have shocked before -- who would have thought that a SLAVIC Pope from a communist country would be made Pope? And who would have thought that a 78 year old, tired cardinal would be made Pope? One thing is sure -- God will laugh at all our predictions :P
And, the question already asked about the conclave, is there a group(s) within the church known for their spirituality who could give insight into the actual needs of the church?
Well, the majority of Cardinals are conservative selections by Pope JPII or Benedict. At the end, as I said above, it really is the Holy Spirit which directs the conclave - one can't give any other reason for the past 2 popes. I believe that the next Pope and the Pope after that should continue in the same vein as JP II and BXIV -- knocking out the liberals, bringing the Catholics closer to the Orthodox and the Oriental Churches by emphasising the first among equals nature of the Western Patriarchate and tossing away a lot of the medieval baggage. This will help in rapprochements with other Christian brethren. Also, Pope Benedict was tough -- not tough physically, but spiritually and mentally. I look forward to a Pope who is both -- and my hopes rest on Cardinal Turkson
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