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To: John Valentine
I don't think you understand what I'm trying to get at. I'm not talking about government's intrusion. My point is: what are the limits for what athletes can use to enhance performance? Maybe steroids should be illegal, maybe they should be legalized. But does anything go? If not, why not? Steroids obviously helped a lot of athletes do things they wouldn't have done without them. A number of athletes, like Ken Caminiti, admitted as much. Steroids were not available, or not in the current form, forty years ago and more. So you have athletes today setting records they might not have come close to without steroid use.

People look at the records of great players from the past and see their records, achieved with no peds, shattered by athletes who may not have come close to those records without steroids. And when baseball cracked down on steroid use, homerun production went way down. So how can I, and millions of other fans, seriously take the records set by players who might not have come close to setting records if they hadn't used artificial means i.e. anabolic steroids to do it?

25 posted on 02/06/2013 5:56:43 PM PST by driftless2
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To: driftless2

They’re just games. I find it ridiculous that “athletes” can’t use substances I hear advertised on the radio.


26 posted on 02/06/2013 6:08:20 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. Let's start over.)
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To: driftless2

I’m sorry, but this does not seem to be anything at all like the original position you espoused. Besides, all the introspective musing in the world won’t allow you to escape the final question: Who gets to decide?

And when it comes to whether you can take athletic achievement seriously with or without steroids or whatever else, is a matter for you, and not for anyone else. Others can make up their own minds. Bottom line is, frankly, I don’t care, and I hope millions more don’t care either. Because, all this “caring” is leading us toward a society where long-nosed busybodies make more and more decisions that ought to be ours alone. Maybe I might want to take steroids - or maybe not. But I don’t want that decision left to the LLiC - that’s the “Local Libtard in Charge”. They have already started tagging non-steroids as steroids just to get them banned. This is what Fascists do.

Finally: “Steroids were not available, or not in the current form, forty years ago and more. So you have athletes today setting records they might not have come close to without steroid use.”

So what? The same thing will be true in another 40 years - when whatever performance enhancing substances have been developed in the meantime are matters for this unhealthy public “caring”. And as I said before, they are on the way, faster than you might think.


27 posted on 02/06/2013 9:44:30 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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