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The Karl Rove Cartel Will Now Pick Your Rhinos
Last Resistance ^ | Feburary 4, 2013 | John DeMayo

Posted on 02/05/2013 3:27:53 AM PST by yoe

By now all Americans—regardless of their political ideology, especially conservatives—should be fed up with the government failures produced by political operatives and big money’s influence in our elections. Election after election, powerbrokers like the infamous political Republican strategist Karl Rove and his campaign money machine are working to deprive Americans of the fundamental concept of choice in our elections. If Mr. Rove continues to have his way, conservative Americans will only be allowed to vote for candidates of his choosing in the foreseeable future.

Super Pac “American Crossroads”—founded in part by Karl Rove—has branched out on a new political influence peddling venture call “The Conservative Victory Project”. “The Conservative Victory Project” will operate independently of the National Republican Senatorial Committee and “American Crossroads”. It is being funded by big Republican campaign contributors frustrated by American Crossroads failure to aggressively inject their money and influence into Republican vs. Republican contests. According to reports “the Conservative Victory Project” unlike “American Crossroads” will be disclosing all of it donors. How refreshing, if true.

(Excerpt) Read more at lastresistance.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: americancrossroads; benedictrove; karlrove; romney; romneyagenda; rove4romney; rove4soros; teaparty; tokyorove; typicalrino4obama
Carl Rove and ilk never address one of the most pressing problems, the size of government. Mitt Romney did, the rest is history. If protecting one's job is foremost, the country loses, we all do....all you have to do to see this is look at America's education meltdown...to dumb and dumber...teacher's fear for their jobs, pensions; so don't expect them to ever help raise awareness to protect our liberties! Rove and company know this....something else Rove never addresses is the United States Constitution...every swinging politician should be able to quote that document chapter and verse...the Tea Party made a loud noise about that in the beginning of their rise...BRING THAT BACK!

"Although the size of government has declined slightly in the past four years, the debt has exploded and higher taxes are likely on the horizon. It is during periods of government expansion that freedoms are commonly surrendered. When Paul Revere took his midnight ride shouting, “The British are coming,” the colonists were facing a mortal threat from an army intent on taking their land and freedom. Today, the threat is no less real, but is not of the type which threatens our life, just our liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Think about it." (Forbes)


1 posted on 02/05/2013 3:28:04 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe
Soo...

What they're saying is that many of our elephants are actually rhinos?

That'd be tough to disguise!

2 posted on 02/05/2013 3:31:33 AM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: yoe
Any conservative still associating with the republican party is just wasting their energy and time.

I necessarily don't advocate a new third party however, conservatives HAVE to regroup under a strong unified banner which is NOT this loser rino republican party.

3 posted on 02/05/2013 3:41:15 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: yoe

If this is what the Republican party has become, then maybe it’s time to redefine what a RINO is.

If being a Republican means being like Karl Rove and his ilk, then being that “in name only” would actually be to your credit, something to be proud of.


4 posted on 02/05/2013 3:43:26 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: yoe

I need more coffee...

I distinctly read, “The Karl Rove Cartel Will Now Pick Your Nose”...


5 posted on 02/05/2013 3:43:47 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: yoe

Karl Rove doing his best to redefine what Conservatism is to benefit himself, and those of the establishment that support him. Rove makes a good living screwing up the works for the benefit of himself IMO.


6 posted on 02/05/2013 3:50:24 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: rockinqsranch

I’m beginning to think that Karl Rove has defected and is now serving as a double agent.


7 posted on 02/05/2013 4:07:17 AM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: yoe

It will tell me who to support in every election, if Rove is for them, I’ll be against them. Making it easy for us all.


8 posted on 02/05/2013 4:29:29 AM PST by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org -- http://defcad.org/)
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To: yoe

Obviously it is clear that the Republican Pary is dead.
Karl Rove should be run out on a rail. More than anyone else, he is responsible for the debacle that occurred last November.He should pay for that by being turfed to the Northernmost reaches of Alaska to conduct polls among the Inuit.

Why would anyone listen to Rove, who has proven himself so wrong? Simple. The RINO country club political class want to protect their connection to the Tax revenue gravy train that Washington has become.They could care less about the country.

The president has filed NO budget, yet the Republican House still continues to appropriate money that Obama can spend ANYWAY he likes because there is no budget.

The gravy train is what is important, the people can GTH as far as Rove is concerned.

Sarah Palin must fight them, or we start a 3rd party.


9 posted on 02/05/2013 4:30:55 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: jmcenanly

Karl Rove just wants to win elections.

A Republican who would allow abortions in cases of rape or incest, but still wants a strong defense and a balanced budget, would be a lot better than a Democrat who wants a weak defense, doesn’t mind trillion dollar deficits because she likes enormous social programs, and never met an abortion she didn’t like.

In order to pursue a Ronald Reagan agenda successfully, we’d need a Ronald Reagan. Where is this candidate?


10 posted on 02/05/2013 4:31:37 AM PST by Bryan
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To: yoe

Up until Reagan, the GOP has always been the liberal party. Since Reagan, the globalist leftists have been working successfully to get the party back from the conservative little people that elected Reagan. The problem is that both parties are controlled by different leftist groups and conservatives have no home.


11 posted on 02/05/2013 4:31:56 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: King_Corey
Here is my answer to whatever Karl Rove endorses: Whatever it is, I'm against it.
12 posted on 02/05/2013 4:35:19 AM PST by mc5cents
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To: Candor7
The president has filed NO budget, yet the Republican House still continues to appropriate money that Obama can spend ANYWAY he likes because there is no budget.

I don't believe you get it.

If the Republican-controlled House didn't appropriate a dime, it wouldn't affect Obama's spending. We'd just have an annual deficit of $6 trillion.

We need to win a presidential election.

13 posted on 02/05/2013 4:40:51 AM PST by Bryan
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To: sirchtruth
sirchtruth: "I necessarily don't advocate a new third party however, conservatives HAVE to regroup under a strong unified banner which is NOT this loser rino republican party."

You need to sirch harder, FRiend.
The Republican party is the only possible path to a conservative majority.
So, the task at hand is for conservatives to take over the Republican party -- just as Liberal / "Progressives" took over the Dems.
Any other strategy simply leads to ever larger Democrat majorities in government.

14 posted on 02/05/2013 4:44:03 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: yoe; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Liz; GOPJ; ...
RE :”If Mr. Rove continues to have his way, conservative Americans will only be allowed to vote for candidates of his choosing in the foreseeable future.”

Ha-HA, This is the same argument Dems been using against the SCOTUS citizen's united decision: ‘big $$$$ interfers with democracy.’

Better yet, Rove’s contributors are those uber-rich Republicans, err I mean those job creators(like Mitt), who we were supposed to take a hit on taxes for at the end of the year to protect.
Hey, I thought we are all supposed to ‘want to be just like them’ someday.
When we get uber-rich we can influence these primaries with big $$$$ too.

They earned it, they are 'job creators' , they got big $$$$$, LOL

or...., don't do what Rove's commercials tell you to.

15 posted on 02/05/2013 4:45:12 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: Bryan

We need to win a presidential election. >>>>>>>>>>>>

LOL. Of course we do. But we have to play the hand we have.
The Republican party is run by politicians who are interested in nothing more than keeping the tax revenue gravy train going.Thats what Rove is all about.Even if we win under Rove’s plan, The People will be no better off.

The Cha Ching sounds the same whether its the pockets of Republicans of Democrats being filled. That sound has to stop.


16 posted on 02/05/2013 4:46:57 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: jmcenanly

I think Karl Rove has always been a bit Leftist, but during the G.W. Bush Administration his bent didn’t really stand out as he was camouflaged by much of the actions of that administrations moderacy. Karl Rove was actually revered during that period as some sort of a genius. It was later when he wasn’t just another tree in that particular forest that his lefticity stood out, and people could really see the grain of his bark.


17 posted on 02/05/2013 4:54:21 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: yoe; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; ...
FROM ABOVE :”By now all Americans—regardless of their political ideology, especially conservatives—should be fed up with the government failures produced by political operatives and big money’s influence in our elections. Election after election, powerbrokers like the infamous political Republican strategist Karl Rove and his campaign money machine are working to deprive Americans of the fundamental concept of choice in our elections.

This sounds so familiar.

Obama in Rose Garden 2010 on Citizen's United:
They can buy millions of dollars worth of TV ads –- and worst of all, they don’t even have to reveal who’s actually paying for the ads. Instead, a group can hide behind a name like “Citizens for a Better Future,” even if a more accurate name would be “Companies for Weaker Oversight.” These shadow groups are already forming and building war chests of tens of millions of dollars to influence the fall elections.

18 posted on 02/05/2013 4:55:45 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: Candor7; BroJoeK
Even if we win under Rove’s plan, The People will be no better off.

Oh really? That attitude is what's destroying the Republican Party. And as BroJoeK pointed out, unless the Republican Party survives and wins, we will have Democrats controlling the White House and Congress for the rest of our lives. Because that's how long it would take to build a new political party in this climate that can win.

We need to reform and rebuild the GOP. The question is how we go about it.

19 posted on 02/05/2013 4:56:56 AM PST by Bryan
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To: yoe
Mr. Rove has stolen millions of dollars that were intended for the election of a GOP candidate, not him.

"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party
 over to the traitors in the battle just ended.
We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged
 to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support.
Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates
wouldn't make any sense at all.""

--  President Ronald Reagan



20 posted on 02/05/2013 5:02:29 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Bryan; Candor7
Bryan: "...Democrats controlling the White House and Congress for the rest of our lives.
Because that's how long it would take to build a new political party..."

Sorry, but you are far to optimistic.
We are already within sight, indeed history will show if we have already crossed the line, into a permanent Democrat-taker majority.
Once we have crossed that line, there's no turning back -- ever.
Our constitutionally limited Republic (Free Republic!) will be gone, and we will be just another "people's republic", "banana republic", "socialist democracy" or whatever other name you might wish to call us.

Of course, to a large degree we already are those things, but so long as life breathes in free-republican opposition, there still remains the possibility that new conservative leadership and a clear vision can return the United States from the brink of self-destruction.

21 posted on 02/05/2013 5:42:16 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: yoe

The media is trying to portray the Republican party as being in disarray, they accuse us of infighting, and already claim we are “finished”. The Marxist MO is to infiltrate, divide, slander, conquer. When I read quotes regarding conservatives I consider the source, even those who call themselves conservatives. There is no point in wasting energy with knee jerk reactions against our own, even if we don’t agree. I believe we should focus on the media corruption and the deception from the Soros propaganda machine.

They have had this campaign against the Catholic church for years, and lash out whenever the church refuses to put their messiah before our God. They endlessly recycle abuse scandals, distort the messages of the Pope, Bishops, and priests. Infiltrate Catholic institutions and work against the church, and Soros had spent millions to create “Catholic” organizations that are a complete deception.

The media is compromised, don’t believe what they say about us. We have to focus on outing their deception.


22 posted on 02/05/2013 6:00:10 AM PST by mgist
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To: yoe
Don't believe the nuts. Rove is a good man.

Stone thrower John DeMayo, the author of this poisonous article, must have slept through English Composition class, where he should have learned not to write sentences like this:
"Apparently big Republican donors aren’t happy with anti-establishment conservative Republican candidates—chosen by free and fair elections—defeating there candidates and subsequently losing to a Democrat."

Ironically, he's the same guy who complains about illiterate minorities, here:
http://lastresistance.com/479/florida-says-its-ok-that-minorities-dont-read-well/

23 posted on 02/05/2013 6:21:10 AM PST by ncdave4life
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To: yoe

Carl can go pick his nose, a job for which he is well suited.


24 posted on 02/05/2013 6:25:59 AM PST by pallis
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To: jmcenanly

Karl Rove, like Dick Morris, is nothing more than a political whore for sale to the highest bidder. Both are slightly less corrupt than your standard Democrats because their party has a much bigger surplus of whores and, therefore, do not pay as well.


25 posted on 02/05/2013 6:45:46 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: ncdave4life; mgist; Candor7; BroJoeK

I agree with ncdave4life. Whatever else Karl Rove may be, he knows how to win elections — even when the entire news media establishment is against him. We have to stop the infighting as a party. We need to reunite and reach consensus on how to go forward.

My suggestion is that we really, really need to reach out to women and Latinos. We don’t need to cave in on the issues that the news media establishment is defining as important issues (and acceptable political positions) for women and Latinos. But I do think we need to give an inch, or the left-wing fanatics are going to continue taking a mile in every election. Even more important, our candidates need to be a great deal more sensitive about these issues, and what they say about these issues. If we can become more sensitive, we don’t need to cave in on these issues.

Todd Akin is a perfect example. He was going to win that Senate election in Missouri, by a wide margin, and he’s a true conservative. Then he said something about abortion that was stupid and insensitive. And a Democratic incumbent who should have been politically dead was resuscitated, and re-elected. If he had chosen his words more carefully, he would have won as a true conservative.


26 posted on 02/05/2013 6:51:56 AM PST by Bryan
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To: Bryan

That attitude is what’s destroying the Republican Party>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thats fine by me. The sooner it is destroyed the sooner we can organize a conservative party.The Republican party rejected conservatives in 2004, 2008, and again in 2012.

We will start our own party. The Republican party does not have to be destroyed. It destroyed itself.Not only did it alienate Hispanics and minorities. It alienated ALL of its conservatives.

Now the Republic party must die. You are watching its death as we speak. Rove is destroying it as we speak. He does not know how to win elections. He lost in 2008, and he lost in 2012. Rove is a loser.


27 posted on 02/05/2013 7:01:35 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Bryan
We need to reform and rebuild the GOP. The question is how we go about it.

Karl Rove is just the tip of the GOP iceberg. Here in Illinois the GOP Party leader, Pat Brady, actively recruited Republicans to vote for homosexual marriage - which goes against the Illinois GOP Party platform.

Numerous calls from Republican County Central Committee Chairmen and Republican voters for him to STEP DOWN fall on deaf ears of Illinois Party leaders.

The question is how we go about it... Tell those who don't support the party platform to GO. Unfortunately, that includes most of the members of the Illinois Central Committee.

It may be too late for Republican Party.

28 posted on 02/05/2013 7:05:53 AM PST by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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To: yoe
Hey Karl...

NO
more
RINOS


29 posted on 02/05/2013 7:11:32 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: ncdave4life
Don't believe the nuts. Rove is a good man.

Really? So in your world a man who forms a pac to attack CONSERVATIVES rather than liberals is good?

Are you sure you're on the right site?

30 posted on 02/05/2013 7:12:32 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Bryan
Whatever else Karl Rove may be, he knows how to win elections

Like McCain, Romney, and how he's going to float another big turd like Jeb or Christie. No thanks.

Todd Akin is a perfect example.

Funny how the RINOs are still attacking Akin, but have nothing but praise for a loser like Rove - see, he loses elections, that makes Rove a LOSER. Did I mention that Romney lost? Maybe you need to stop playing the race card and support CONSERVATIVES rather than attacking and driving them away and expecting somehow to win elections.

31 posted on 02/05/2013 7:18:15 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Bryan

totally agrre Bryan. As a woman in the Latino community I can confirm the the Marxists have effectively painted a picture of conservatives immigrant hating, and anti women. Latinos are conservative, but the vitriol that seemed to come from certain elements in the party, was threatening and ugly. I know better, not everyone does. Many conservative Latinos were upset that Obama won, and that he was able to deliver messages of hope, trust, and love, with the skill of a con man. With the media against us, there is no room for vitriol.


32 posted on 02/05/2013 7:22:58 AM PST by mgist
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To: Candor7; stars & stripes forever
Now the Republic party must die. You are watching its death as we speak. Rove is destroying it as we speak. He does not know how to win elections. He lost in 2008, and he lost in 2012. Rove is a loser.

Rove wasn't involved in the 2008 election, or the 2012 election. Don't try to blame those two disasters on him.

Here in Illinois the GOP Party leader, Pat Brady, actively recruited Republicans to vote for homosexual marriage - which goes against the Illinois GOP Party platform. Numerous calls from Republican County Central Committee Chairmen and Republican voters for him to STEP DOWN fall on deaf ears of Illinois Party leaders. ... Tell those who don't support the party platform to GO. Unfortunately, that includes most of the members of the Illinois Central Committee.

Yes, I know all about that. I'm in the western suburbs of Chicago. We had an incumbent, conservative Republican congressman named Joe Walsh. He lost to a left-wing radical Democrat named Tammy Duckworth, who in 2010 failed against another true conservative, incumbent Republican congressman named Peter Roskam in an adjoining district.

Why the different outcomes? Several factors combined to protect Roskam and defeat Walsh.

First, the one I'm going to keep beating everyone over the head with: Roskam knows how to speak about sensitive issues in a sensitive way. Walsh is fatally infected with what I call the Todd Akin Syndrome: completely insensitive in his remarks about women and minorities. Hostile news media establishment operatives, who always work overtime to get Democrats elected, seized everything he ever said that was insensitive and splattered it all over the front page.

Second, the Democratic machine in Chicago knows how to turn a loser like Duckworth into a winner. They hired her, first in Springfield and then in Washington, as a mid-level bureaucrat in veterans' affairs to polish her resume. After Roskam ripped her up for running as a non-resident in his congressional district, they used redistricting to custom design the neighboring congressional district around her residence -- a district she could win.

Third, the left-wing news media establishment didn't get behind Democratic candidates in 2010 to the same shameless degree that they did in 2008 and 2012. I don't know what happened, but they just weren't as blatantly partisan for the Democrats in 2010. That's my perception anyway. And we can't hope that it will ever happen again.

33 posted on 02/05/2013 7:55:50 AM PST by Bryan
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To: Bryan
Rove wasn't involved in the 2008 election, or the 2012 election. Don't try to blame those two disasters on him.

Karl Rove is a "proto-type" of those running the Republican Party. He talks the talk on conservative issues, but always goes for the moderate/liberal candidates.

Momentum is down in my area to be involved in the GOP. Conservatives are not as involved in campaigns as they were, and the GOP vote is down. GOP leaders and strategists like Karl Rove have had a demoralizing effect on conservatives. They feel betrayed.

Only a BIG SHAKEUP in GOP leadership will get conservatives back on board. Conservatives are the backbone of the Republican Party. Without them, the party cannot win an election.

An unfortunate truth: Ineffective leaders will not give up their leadership positions, even though all signs point to the demise of the movement they are leading.

34 posted on 02/05/2013 9:13:56 AM PST by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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To: Bryan

Rove was involved in the 2008 election having set up the frame work for others to work in 2004, he led the construction of public imagery, mostly spin & lies BTW :

“Shortly after leaving the White House, Rove was hired to write about the 2008 Presidential Election for Newsweek.[36] He was also later hired as a contributor for the Wall Street Journal and a political analyst for Fox News. Rove was an informal advisor to 2008 Republican Presidential candidate John McCain, and donated $2,300 to his campaign.[37] His memoir, Courage and Consequence, was published in March 2010.[38] One advance reviewer, Dana Milbank of The Washington Post, said of the book that Rove “revives claims discredited long ago”.[39] The controversial book has inspired a grassroots rock and roll compilation of a similar name Courage and Consequence[40] that was released a week before the memoir.”

On November 7, 2012, Rove protested Fox News’ call of the 2012 presidential election for Barack Obama, prompting host Megyn Kelly to ask him, “Is this just math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better? Or is this real?”[63][64][65]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Rove

Rove is a disaster.

Why revise history? Rove and his cadre of coutry club RINOs
have a death grip on the GOP and will play dirty pool with consrvatives to prevent their prevailing within the GOP. They do this INSTEAD of fighting the Dems. They are more democrat that Republican.

Now Rove and his gang will not go gracefully into thenight, despite the repeated FAILURE of their strategies , having alienated just about everyone they can, including conservatives and Hispanics. They lead like lead farts. Horrible. SO its up to us to create a genuine “Republican” party.Its time to just get on with it.


35 posted on 02/05/2013 9:53:20 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Bryan
Whatever else Karl Rove may be, he knows how to win elections...

Really.? Mr. Rove is greatly responsible for the schism that now exists among the right - Mr. Rove is an elitist RINO.

36 posted on 02/05/2013 11:46:04 AM PST by yoe
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To: BroJoeK

Who do you reccommend to take over the Republican party? Rudio? The point is you can elect people with an “r” behind their names every election. But no matter what they say while campaigning, when they get to D.C. they’re still republicans.


37 posted on 02/05/2013 6:15:05 PM PST by Terry Mross (Who long before America is no more?)
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To: Terry Mross
Terry Mross: "Who do you reccommend to take over the Republican party? Rudio?"

I would begin searching at the top of the list of "most conservative" US congress-critters and governors.
If that happens to be someone of Hispanic heritage, then so much the better.

Terry Mross: "The point is you can elect people with an “r” behind their names every election.
But no matter what they say while campaigning, when they get to D.C. they’re still republicans."

Regardless of what some people say, Republicans at their worst are still more conservative than Democrats at their "best".
Therefore, the choice of "R" vs "D" is (almost) always "R".
But when the primary election choice is more-conservative R vs more-"moderate" R, then the choice must be the more-conservative R.

As to how conservatives can "take over" the Republican party, the answer is simple: "ownership" belongs to those who deliver the most votes.
So sitting around b*tch, moaning and complaining about Republicans does no good.
Delivering voters to polls wins elections and gains political control.

But first you have to get off your rear-end and do some real political work, FRiend.

38 posted on 02/06/2013 6:57:40 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: Bryan; Candor7; stars & stripes forever
Bryan: "Several factors combined to protect Roskam and defeat Walsh."

I contend there was only one factor, and it's the only factor which matters: Dems knew who their voters were (by name!) and got them to the polls, one way or another.

Republicans don't know how many voters we have, or how many more we need to win, and where to find them.

In all fairness to Karl Rove, that is exactly what he is most noted for, and I'd say the only people qualified to criticize him are those who are proved better at it than he is.

And that would be??

39 posted on 02/06/2013 7:33:35 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

How do you stand on Pat Brady? Should he stay or should he go?


40 posted on 02/06/2013 11:38:06 AM PST by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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To: BroJoeK

How do you stand on Pat Brady? Should he stay or should he go?


41 posted on 02/06/2013 11:40:12 AM PST by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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To: stars & stripes forever
s&sf: "How do you stand on Pat Brady?
Should he stay or should he go?"

I always loved Pat Brady... him & Roy and that Jeep which never worked right... Boy, do I know how that goes! ;-)

Oh, did you mean some other Pat Brady? ;-)
Let's see, did he win an election?
Did he advance the conservative cause?
Does he seem to know what he's doing?

If not, do we have a better candidate?

42 posted on 02/06/2013 12:02:20 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

and that Jeep which never worked right

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TINKERBELLE!


43 posted on 02/06/2013 12:04:01 PM PST by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: BroJoeK

Republicans don’t know how many voters we have, or how many more we need to win, and where to find them.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thats just RINO elitists like ROVE and his spanky anti-conservative gang.

If Rove and the rest of the RINO country club Republicans
had conservatives running the campaign, guaranteed there would be a personal touch with the electorate.

The RINOS have simply outed evertyone they can in the Tea Party. Now you see the effects of it. The country club Republicans are dying out there without the conservative wing of the party.

And I can hardly wait until they keel over and go into their final death throws , then the Tea Party will be ascendant.Lead by people like Colonel Alan West, whom Rove and his cronies left hanging out to dry in a redistricting based battle, and Sarah Palin, who they did not even invite to speak at the conventuion.NOW the country club Republicans are paying the price:

1) They lost the election overwhelmingly

2) No one is taking them seriously in the media or elesewhere, post election. They are a JOKE. People are laughing their asses of at their fumbling, lack of leadership, failure to engage the most deconstructive, horrid, socialist policies ever in the history of the nation, led by a presidential clown whose only strength is to lie like a Persian rug on campaign?

My Irish Setter could do better than these RINO clowns like Rove. At least my dog has people come up and hug him.Rove and his RINO class are a sick joke.And they are so stupid they won’t even let conservatives, their only hope, save them, so we will let them die an ignoble political death.


44 posted on 02/06/2013 2:42:02 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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While your at it, listen to a conservative man who knows what to do:

http://patriotaction.net/video/video/show?id=2600775%3AVideo%3A6088639&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_video


45 posted on 02/06/2013 2:43:05 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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Candor7: "Thats just RINO elitists like ROVE and his spanky anti-conservative gang."

So, I take it, you have lists of all those conservative Republican voters who didn't bother to vote for Romney?
And you have people who will make certain they get out the vote for a "real conservative"?
And there are enough of these "real conservative" voters to overwhelm Obama's vast armies of Democrat-takers?

And you have proved your ability to win conservative victories in difficult districts where, exactly?

Well, then obviously, you're the one for the job, FRiend. ;-)

Candor7: "And I can hardly wait until they keel over and go into their final death throws , then the Tea Party will be ascendant."

The Tea Party is ascendant today in districts and states where they can deliver margins of victory under difficult circumstances.
But in other states, where Tea Party candidates delivered defeat in elections which coulda, shoulda, woulda gone Republican otherwise, then Tea Partiers are not so welcomed these days.

So here's the bottom line: there is no possibility of defeating Democrat-takers without every Republican -- "real conservative" or otherwise -- voting for our side.
Therefore, any suggestions to split up Republicans, or form a new anti-Republican party, is simply executing the Democrat-taker game plan for becoming the permanent majority in a one-party People's Republic.

So don't even think about it, FRiend.

46 posted on 02/07/2013 8:51:40 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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Candor7: "While your at it, listen to a conservative man who knows what to do:"

As always, Levin is spot on.
Criticizing Republicans for being too moderate is always appropriate.
Suggesting that we need more than one anti-Democrat party, not so much.

47 posted on 02/07/2013 8:54:31 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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