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To: RKV

I’m not doubting your numbers. Actually, I am impressed with them. My issue is “control young urban black males”. How do we do that? Throw them in a gated area in California?

I guess in a sense, I am an elitist. My city has been voted one of the most dangerous cities in America. Yet, the majority of murders happen in an 8 square block area. It is drug dealer on drug dealer crimes. Even the police admit it and they keep it in that small area by protecting everything in the outskirts. Why? Maybe it’s a “thin the herd” mentality. I know one thing, I stay away from that area.

We’ve seen it all before. American Indians, American Cowboys, the Irish, Italians, and the list goes on throughout the decades. We’ve had our share of “Race specific killers”.

It’s when we post, “Guns don’t kill black people, other blacks do”, it comes off as a generalization. That can be dangerous. All black people aren’t out to kill.

It may have just been the title that threw me off. It puts us in a bad light....


20 posted on 02/04/2013 5:46:39 PM PST by Snark
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To: Snark

Let me give you a hint on how to control them. With policemen. Seriously. Enforce our laws. I don’t have the data together since I just tripped to it the other day. What am I referring to? How is it that New York, which has some very bad areas, has significantly less violent crime and a lower murder rate than Chicago or Philadelphia? It’s not the race of the citizens. It’s whether or not the police do their jobs. Apparently (and I am not in a place to back this up with the documentation and facts as above) police in NYC do their jobs - as in catch criminals and jail them. In Chicago and Philly, not so much. I’ve got a bunch of research to do (and in fact I’m going to get in contact with a fellow named John Lott shortly about the project) - but my theory is that when police departments don’t capture murderers, they murder again. We’ll see what the data says - the term of art to keep your eye on is something called the closure rate - the fraction of the offenders charged for crimes committed. Some cities I’ve looked at don’t charge anyone for 45% of the murders committed. That is wrong, and among the reasons that young black men keep on killing other young black men. The predators don’t get caught and punished. And yep, we put a lot of people in prison in this country. Based on what I know, almost all of them are guilty. Personally I’d legalize pot, and limit welfare to one child only (you get one mistake a lifetime). You’d likely call me cruel and racist. It’s just that I’m one of the 53% who are paying income taxes is all. And I have to pay for my own kids.


23 posted on 02/04/2013 5:58:15 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Snark

“All black people aren’t out to kill.”

That’s not implied at all; I took it to mean that if a black person were killed the perp is most likely black (which is absolutely true). Rather than seeing it as a smack at blacks, you could see it as sympathetic to the black victims of such violence (as their own “leaders” don’t seem to care).


31 posted on 02/04/2013 7:07:58 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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