“I’ll freely admit I stopped reading after the firs paragraph, seems that as I get older my tolerance for Bullshit gets lower.
Am I understanding him correctly? What I am taking away from this is “ Don’t sell guns to Black People because they will kill each other” Is he really saying that he doesn’t believe Black people can be responsible gun owners? I find that insulting and ludicrous!”
Yeah, flat out, blatant racism isn’t the answer. Post like this give Freepers a bad name. When the libs say, “They’re racist!” and paste threads like this, it puts us back a bit....
Let me put us back a bit more with some recent facts...
So I did a bit of math with the crime stats from the FBI (2010 UCR reporting) and some census data (again 2010).
So here’s the numbers, like them or not.
1) 50% of all murder victims in 2011 were African-American.
2) 52 % of all murderers in 2011 were African-American (if their race was known and a significant fraction was unknown).
3) The murder rate (not including manslaughter) in the US in 2011 (4.1 per 100K) is half what it was in 1992, and the rate has been falling since 1992, its not an all at once thing.
4) Given that African-Americans make up 14% of the US population and commit half of all murders, that implies…
a) The murder rate for non-African-Americans (86% of the US population) is something like half the national average (about 2.3/100K) – about the same as that of Finland.
b) The murder rate for African-Americans is about 15/100K - roundly the same as the murder rate in Mexico.
c) African-American men ages 13-39 are about 2.4% of the population of the US in 2011 and account for an estimated 40% of all murders.
5) About half of all murders in the US are committed with handguns (again, as of 2011).
Conclusion: Unless and until we control young urban Black males killing other young urban Black males we’re not going to significantly reduce murder rates in the US.
Opinion: Americans don’t believe giving up their fundamental right to armed self-defense is a price worth paying to stop street thugs engaged in the narcotics trade from killing each other at a high rate.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-1
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-1
http://factfinder2.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=DEC_10_SF2_QTP1&prodType=table
http://factfinder2.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=ACS_11_1YR_S0101&prodType=table
I'm sorry. You two are going to have to give some concrete examples of where Horowitz is "racist" with this article. I see nothing racist at all about it.
I didn't take it that way. Anything can and does get clicked and pasted out of context.
Mastador is simply pointing out the rediculous parody that this article produces. Drill down and just look at the facts that are presented. Then they point out that the statistics are different for whites. Then they blame the problem on gun manufactures and laws about who should be able to buy what guns. The NAACP, by their own logic and statistical presentation, should support a solution that makes the sale of firearms to blacks illegal. Their report here suggests that lives would be saved.
No, it’s not racist.