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Sen. David Vitter: Marco Rubio ‘nuts’ on immigration
POLITICO ^ | MACKENZIE WEINGER

Posted on 01/30/2013 10:42:47 AM PST by JohnPDuncan

Sen. David Vitter on Wednesday called Florida Sen. Marco Rubio “amazingly naïve” and “nuts” on the issue of immigration and slammed the new bipartisan reform proposal as “ridiculous.”

The Louisiana Republican told “The Laura Ingraham Show” that the blueprint unveiled by a group of eight senators is a plan that mirrors the “same old” failed immigration reform of 1986. Rubio’s belief that enforcement mechanisms will work this time around is “just amazingly naïve,” Vitter said.

“I love and respect Marco. I think he’s just amazingly naïve on this issue,” Vitter said. “This is the same old formula that we’ve dealt with before, including when it passed in 1986, and that is promises of enforcement and immediate amnesty. And of course, the promises of enforcement never materialize. The amnesty happens immediately — the millisecond the bill is signed into law, and the same is true here. No, they won’t be citizens immediately. They will be legal.”

“Citizenship is guaranteed at that point as a practical matter,” he added.

Vitter said that if the Florida Republican doesn’t think legal status offers a pathway to citizenship, “he’s nuts.”

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TOPICS: Government; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: 113th; aliens; illegals; rubio; vitter
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To: KevinDavis

A Democrat hiding behing a FR name? Don’t agree with you and we’re A) cranks, B) racist, C) extremist, etc.

Next you’ll tell me all these illegals are “hiding in the shadows”.


61 posted on 01/30/2013 2:03:24 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. Let's start over.)
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To: KevinDavis

We didn’t import them so we don’t have to deport them. Make it impossible for them to get jobs (crack down on illegal hiring - should be easy since the 1986 Amnesty bill created the I-9 form that, of course, works! /s)

As Obama destroys the economy, they leave on their own or don’t come.

And I hate to “brake” it to you, but “what if we deported the wrong people” is as weak an arguement as a Democrat would use. Who are these “wrong” people? Wouldn’t they be able to easily prove they are citizens if they aren’t the “right” people? Watching Cheech Marin movies again?


62 posted on 01/30/2013 2:08:07 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. Let's start over.)
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To: sand88

LOL, I thought the same. Twice he’s used the “what if we deport the wrong people” argument. What the heck is that?

Sounds like “oh, yeah, well you’re fat!”


63 posted on 01/30/2013 2:11:44 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. Let's start over.)
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To: DJ Frisat

Rubio is acting like Charlie Brown and this time Lucy won’t pull the football away.

I heard him on Rush yesterday...he SERIOUSLY believes we’ll get border enforcement first. How does he know? Chuckie Schumer said so!

What a tool.


64 posted on 01/30/2013 2:15:02 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. Let's start over.)
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To: JohnPDuncan

Another thing that scares me with ALL of these politicians - they keep using the term immigration.

That’s not what we are discussing or trying to stop. We are talking about ILLEGAL immigration.

If an elected representative can’t bring themselves to differentiate between the two then they are idiots.


65 posted on 01/30/2013 2:17:07 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. Let's start over.)
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To: Fledermaus

It’s not like we are executing them but that does give me an idea of how to encourage self-deportation.


66 posted on 01/30/2013 3:45:19 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Fledermaus
Visitors without lawful permission to be in this country are not immigrants - for that you need to have an immigration visa.

They are merely visitors who don't have visas ~ they are not part of our immigration system.

67 posted on 01/30/2013 3:47:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; Trod Upon
RE :”Here's the way to do it. Pass a law that states that ALL nonresidents are granted a visa for 90 days so that they may carry out all business pertaining to their departure legally. Then the law states that presence in the United States without permission ~ to wit, not having a currently valid visa ~ is a felony punishable by $250,000 and 30 years in prison.”

You live in a complete fantasy world with that. The R party House immigration bill of 2006 called for making illegals felons and they got such grief for it that they tried to amend it out of the bill. So then the House Dems voted against the amendment to remove it so the entire bill died.

No POTUS will call for that assuming by some miracle the Rubio amnesty doesn't get passed into law. In fact after Romney I bet none would even call for ‘self deportation’.

Making humans who were brought here as kids then graduated HS here into criminals for WHO THEY ARE is akin to the Muslims in Iran sentencing women 50 lashes of a whip for being forcefully raped (as fornication).

I hope you are not part of that Republicans sect who believes that woman cant be forcefully raped against their will because their body shuts down if they don't want it(the Akin sect).
Because if the only alternative to liberalism is ‘criminalizing the victims’ that explains why Obama got re-elected and picked up seats in both Houses

68 posted on 01/31/2013 1:17:38 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: sickoflibs

Somehow i doubt you could be forcibly raped ~


69 posted on 01/31/2013 1:22:07 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: sickoflibs

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/broward/fort-lauderdale/fl-lauderdale-tax-fraud-conviction-20130129,0,3486742.story ~ exceedingly heavy penalties for white collar crime ARE COMMON. letting your visa expire is white collar crime. Why should that be punished less than cheating on taxes? We have a very serious penalty for placing the wrong number on a postage mailing statement ~ $10,000 and 10 years ~ you also missed the part where we ISSUE THE OFFENDERS A VISA. That makes their presence legal. Then we deal with them as white collar criminals ~ not just people who just happen to be in the wrong country standing around. Giving these people a taste of Obama’s REAL AMERICA!


70 posted on 01/31/2013 1:28:44 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
RE :”... exceedingly heavy penalties for white collar crime ARE COMMON. letting your visa expire is white collar crime. Why should that be punished less than cheating on taxes? “

Now you are changing your original argument which I would do if I were you too.

You were arguing that it is moral to mark those who were brought here as children and raised here and graduated from high school here as criminals FOR WHO THEY ARE similar to forcing Jews to wear Gold Stars in Germany for being born Jews.

By what demented reasoning are they like tax evaders?
Have you no human decency man?

If you treated your dog like you demand they treat these victims you would be arrested.

71 posted on 01/31/2013 1:43:34 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: sickoflibs
Again, cut out the stateless persons arguments. These kids who were born in Mexico and brought here are Mexican citizens. They can go home with their other illegal alien relatives.

They are not WWII Jewish refugees looking for a country.

72 posted on 01/31/2013 1:48:13 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: sickoflibs

Note, regarding dogs, I consider them livestock. Accordingly I prize them above thieves and those thieve’s enablers.


73 posted on 01/31/2013 1:49:57 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; Trod Upon
RE :”Again, cut out the stateless persons arguments. These kids who were born in Mexico and brought here are Mexican citizens. They can go home with their other illegal alien relatives.
They are not WWII Jewish refugees looking for a country. “

How the hell is someone who was brought here at 5 yrso and is now 21 yrso and graduated from HS here going to pack up and move to Mexico as you demand?
That is completely ridiculous. They have no memories from that young age.

Maybe you just hate Hispanics for rejecting Romney and so you want them all deported in spite but it will never happen.

74 posted on 01/31/2013 2:01:13 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: muawiyah
RE :” I consider them livestock. Accordingly I prize them above thieves and those thieve’s enablers.”

Those brought here at 5 yrso and graduated from HS here are thieves for being born in the wrong place then bought here as young kids?

While you are compiling your ‘never going to happen’ wish list how about deporting all non-whites too? Romney would have won in that case.

75 posted on 01/31/2013 2:17:48 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: sickoflibs

Hmmm, Mexicans are white.


76 posted on 01/31/2013 4:39:11 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: sickoflibs

How are they going to move? Hop in their pickups and go. Simple as that.


77 posted on 01/31/2013 4:43:32 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
RE :”Hmmm, Mexicans are white.”

:)

78 posted on 01/31/2013 4:44:14 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: muawiyah
RE :”How are they going to move? Hop in their pickups and go. Simple as that.”

Pickups LOL

79 posted on 01/31/2013 4:46:48 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: sickoflibs

Hope you don’t imagine I was a Romney backer ~ I was the guy holding out to the beider ende for him to BACK OUT and let us run somebody who could win.


80 posted on 01/31/2013 5:05:09 AM PST by muawiyah
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