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To: Belteshazzar
Blankenhorn’s personal transformation has resulted in a welcome shift in the public debate. How clever of him to recognize that his allies in strengthening marriage are the very people who for so long have been excluded.

Kathleen is an idiot, and a fake conservative. She looks and sounds like one on occasion in order to fool some of the people some of the time.

The only thing that will strengthen marriage are young men and women trained in virtue and dedicating their marriage to God.

Two homos or two lesbos cannot pretend enough to accomplish those requirements.

12 posted on 01/30/2013 9:07:08 AM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Slyfox

The only thing that will strengthen marriage are young men and women trained in virtue and dedicating their marriage to God.

Two homos or two lesbos cannot pretend enough to accomplish those requirements.

...but her argument baldly states that the relationship between the man and women is peripheral to the situation, and that the union primarily is for the benefit of the offspring...we can argue all day whether homosexuals make good parents-I tend to think they’re problematic-but her point that heterosexual infidelity (or any infidelity) has a deleterious effect on children is beyond a doubt...on that basis, her argument has standing...


15 posted on 01/30/2013 9:29:47 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Slyfox

You are right.

The institution of marriage is something not instituted by man, but by God. (Genesis 2) It will survive even the outrages we are now witnessing for the very reason that it is an institution of God. It won’t go away. It is what it is, even if the majority within a society abandon it and, thus, deny its blessings to themselves and their progeny. The society itself will come apart, but the institution will long outlast it, as history has proven many times.

On the other hand, marriage is something properly administered by the state, i.e. government as opposed to church. By this I do not mean the state can do with it as it pleases or define it according to current tastes and trends. Again, it is what it is, and the church knows better than the state the truth of that. The state can only administer it as it was originally instituted and for the purposes it was originally given: 1) lifetime partnership/companionship/love and 2) propagation and preservation of the human race. Any honest historical examination of the laws of the 50 states (since this has always been a matter of state rather than federal law) will show this to be true.

It is no coincidence that government, in failing to fulfill its proper role in upholding this, the 6th Commandment, is also failing to uphold the 4th Commandment (protecting the honor due parents from their children), 5th Commandment (protecting the sanctity, i.e. the God-giveness, of life), 7th Commandment (protecting the right of ownership), and 8th Commandment (protecting the right of reputation). In other words, we are witnessing the breakdown of our society, something which has happened to many nations before. When the law is used to protect vice at the expense of virtue, the slide down the slippery slope has begun.


16 posted on 01/30/2013 9:32:25 AM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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