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N. Korea likely to test fusion-boosted fission bomb able to reach U.S.
Asahi Shimbun ^ | January 25, 2013 | YOSHIHIRO MAKINO

Posted on 01/29/2013 2:15:42 PM PST by Strategerist

North Korea's next nuclear test could enable it to use a smaller, more sophisticated bomb mounted on a long-range ballistic missile to strike the U.S. mainland, Japanese government sources said.

Pyongyang will likely experiment with a fusion-boosted fission bomb in a "high-level" nuclear test it said would target the United States, according to the sources.

A fusion-boosted fission bomb induces nuclear fusion with slight nuclear fission, enabling more efficient nuclear fission. A fusion-boosted fission bomb can therefore be made about one-fourth the size of an ordinary nuclear bomb.

Either uranium or plutonium can be used to develop the bomb.

North Korea said Jan. 24 it will carry out a third nuclear test in opposition to a U.N. Security Council resolution condemning the launch of a long-range ballistic missile--that Pyongyang claimed to be a satellite--in December.

In a statement, the country's National Defense Commission said the "high-level" nuclear test, as well as the long-range rockets North Korea plans to fire, will be targeted at the United States, which it declares its enemy.

The Japanese government has concluded that North Korea is ready to test a fusion-boosted fission bomb, and sources said Pyongyang will be able to put it to practical use after a single test.

Japan has been monitoring North Korea's nuclear development program with the United States and other countries. It has analyzed nuclear-related materials North Korea has imported and nuclear-related facilities it has constructed or developed.

While North Korea's first nuclear test in 2006 resulted in an explosion equivalent to less than 1 kiloton of trinitrotoluene (TNT), the second test in 2009 generated an explosion of several kilotons.

In May 2010, North Korea also announced it had succeeded in achieving nuclear fusion.

According to Akihiro Kuroki, a managing director at the Institute of Energy Economics, Japan, a fusion-boosted fission bomb uses substantially smaller amounts of explosives and buffer materials than an ordinary nuclear bomb.

North Korea is believed to possess an atomic bomb similar to the one dropped on Nagasaki on Aug. 9, 1945, which weighed about five tons.

A successful test of a fusion-boosted fission bomb is expected to enable the reclusive communist country to reduce it to a little more than 1 ton.

North Korea is also developing an improved version of the Taepodong-2 long-range ballistic missile, which will be able to carry a nuclear bomb of between 800 kilograms and 1 ton.

North Korea is believed to have studied other countries' development of fusion-boosted fission bombs.

The United States first succeeded in testing an ordinary nuclear bomb in 1945 and is said to have developed a fusion-boosted fission bomb in 1956.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: northkorea; nuclear
Probably more useful to discuss real explosions about to happen instead of fake ones that didn't happen.

Keep in mind this was probably translated from Japanese, and could be written better; it's NOT saying the next North Korean nuclear test will be an actual warhead on a missile, just that the test could further their efforts towards having a warhead on a missile.

To be clear what is being discussed in the article is not what you think of in terms of a "hydrogen" bomb - it would not be a multi-megaton thermonuclear bomb, but a bomb where a small amount of fusion is used to enhance the efficiency and yield of a traditional fusion bomb. It would allow for further warhead miniaturization.

1 posted on 01/29/2013 2:15:47 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Is the white house throwing a party?


2 posted on 01/29/2013 2:17:51 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Strategerist
It would allow for further warhead miniaturization.

Yeah...like for an EMP???

3 posted on 01/29/2013 2:27:56 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Strategerist

edit...”enhance the yield of a traditional fission bomb.”


4 posted on 01/29/2013 2:28:21 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know if the White House is throwing a party, but the Missile Defense Agency probably is.


5 posted on 01/29/2013 2:29:27 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

I think I have a better shot at building the Perpetual Motion Machine in my back yard than the NorKorComs have of solving nuclear fusion.


6 posted on 01/29/2013 2:30:31 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you Hillary for another glaring failure.


7 posted on 01/29/2013 2:31:17 PM PST by willardwx
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With this guy in charge, it’s time to bring back this song. A friend of mine told me a few days ago that the clock was moved. I guess I missed the story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t039p6xqutU

With this guy neutering our military, the parody is kinda scary.


8 posted on 01/29/2013 2:32:00 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Strategerist

9 posted on 01/29/2013 2:37:09 PM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Strategerist
Did Red China give North Korea the missile portable bomb designs which were sold to it by Bill Clinton?
10 posted on 01/29/2013 2:39:43 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Strategerist

Forget about Republicans for a moment, does anybody think John Kennedy or FDR would have tolerated this **** for two seconds??


11 posted on 01/29/2013 2:42:47 PM PST by varmintman
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To: BenLurkin

The tale of what Bill Clinton “sold” to the Chinese keeps growing in the telling.

We didn’t sell the Chinese nuclear bomb designs.


12 posted on 01/29/2013 2:45:12 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Buckeye McFrog

This wouldn’t be the development of a full-scale multi-stage thermonuclear weapon; it’s a slight modification to an implosion fission device (which the NORKs already have) basically putting some fusionable material in the middle of the imploding Pu or HEU to generate more neutrons and improve the fission explosion.


13 posted on 01/29/2013 2:46:54 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: willardwx
Thank you Hillary for another glaring failure.

So when i was in Grad school 4 years ago, this mid-level Obama foreign policy functionary came to give a lecture talking about how their policy of "engagement" would be so much better than the obviously stupid Bush policies that failed to stop the DPRK nuke program.

14 posted on 01/29/2013 2:48:39 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

The Clintons transferred all pending US
patent applications to the red Chinese for political cash.

How do you know what was in there? or in the rest?


15 posted on 01/29/2013 2:49:26 PM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Strategerist

OK. I’m not into nuclear science, don’t have the brains for it. So, what would be the range of this missile, as far as we know, and what would the impact of the detonation be? As far as we know.


16 posted on 01/29/2013 2:52:54 PM PST by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Not fusion they are doing. No way they have figured that out.

The trick is injection tritium into the hollow pit of a fission device just before detonation. The intense fission reaction is sufficient to start fusion of the tritium and radically increase the yield both from added fusion energy and releasing a lot more neutrons further increasing the fission yield.

Pretty sure without looking that we figured how to do this before we figured out thermonukes.

17 posted on 01/29/2013 2:53:45 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Strategerist
We didn’t sell the Chinese nuclear bomb designs.

IIRC, didn't the Chinese they have their man inside Los Alamos stealing the designs for the W88 and such miniaturized devices?

I recall lots of hand waving about what he did or did not steal. Sounded like a smoke screen to me.

18 posted on 01/29/2013 2:59:52 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69
"The United States first succeeded in testing an ordinary nuclear bomb in 1945 and is said to have developed a fusion-boosted fission bomb in 1956."

Boosted fission bombs were developed well before the staged thermonuclear weapons. Boosted fission bombs were what the Eniwetok tests were about in 1950 or 51.

"The intense fission reaction is sufficient to start fusion of the tritium and radically increase the yield both from added fusion energy and releasing a lot more neutrons further increasing the fission yield."

I believe that this is also the physical basis underlying the practice of the "keg stand" as well.

19 posted on 01/29/2013 3:01:13 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: F15Eagle

Panic in Year Zero: Crazy Kick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MBzkGEl0LI


20 posted on 01/29/2013 3:05:07 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: billorites
That timeline is what I dimly remembered. Used to be a caual student of nuke design.

Drawing a blank on "keg stand". never ran across that term before.

21 posted on 01/29/2013 3:10:36 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: billorites

IIRC, tritium floods the core with neutrons which boosts the yield.

There was the GE Neutron Generator (going from memory of reading).


22 posted on 01/29/2013 3:11:19 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Strategerist

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23 posted on 01/29/2013 3:11:48 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Strategerist

I still say that the whole North Korean nuke program is a joke.

First explosion? Get 500 tons of TNT and blow it up!
Second explosion? Get 2X more!

Remember the first explosion when NO trace molecules for a nuke were seen leaking from the site, until the media notices and reported it, and then somehow they magically appeared?

I think that all the main nuke work and testing is occurring in Iran.

The rocket they launched is the delivery method. I believe they are shooting for a dozen-kiloton EMP 200 miles above the East Coast and are praying it will work.


24 posted on 01/29/2013 3:21:28 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Strategerist
News out of North Korea is never totally reliable, but food shortages have reportedly gotten so bad that people are murdering their own children for food.
Back in 2003, during another food shortage there were refugee accounts that people in the country began killing and eating their children and then selling remnants of their corpses.
If things are as bad as "rumor" has them, Korea has nothing to left to lose.
25 posted on 01/29/2013 3:26:40 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: BenLurkin
Did Red China give North Korea the missile portable bomb designs which were sold to it by Bill Clinton?

It was Carter who gave Korea nuke technology - "for peaceful purposes only", of course.

26 posted on 01/29/2013 3:31:21 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Strategerist

NK just wants to make headlines and rattle sabers to blackmail the free world for more aid. I won’t lose sleep over this. But I do worry about their people.


27 posted on 01/29/2013 3:51:37 PM PST by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com/)
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To: Strategerist

If we responded to the Norks with 1,000 H-bombs, Korea wouldn’t look any different than it does now.


28 posted on 01/29/2013 4:28:32 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: billorites; doorgunner69
Boosted fission bombs were developed well before the staged thermonuclear weapons. Boosted fission bombs were what the Eniwetok tests were about in 1950 or 51.

Sorry no. The one 1951 boosted fission test Greenhouse Item was a proof of concept test, no way related to a deployable weapon (it used cryogenic booster fuel)

The 1951 test was primarily to test the nuclear principles involved, and to gain research data, and it was not considered a design for a weaponizable device. Even as late as 1954, no boosted weapon had entered into the nuclear-weapons stockpile, and the only use for the Greenhouse Item nuclear test had been for its research results.

This is not a deployable lightweight weapon

The first operational US TNs (The Mk 15 and 17) entered in service in 1955.

The first boosted fission weapons (the W-34 and the TN W-28) in 1958

Comparison without BF: W-7Betty depth bomb 1955 30" dia 1000 lbs

With BF: W-34Lulu depth bomb 1958 17" dia 300lbs


29 posted on 01/29/2013 5:06:35 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: doorgunner69
"The trick is injection tritium into the hollow pit of a fission device just before detonation. The intense fission reaction is sufficient to start fusion of the tritium and radically increase the yield both from added fusion energy and releasing a lot more neutrons further increasing the fission yield."

Not the best way to do it. The Russians replaced the unstable tritium with nice stable lithium deuteride. I forget the exact mechanism, but I think the neutron flux and pressure of the fission explosion causes the Li of the LiD to convert to tritium, which then fuses per normal, yielding a bigger bang and a more stable warhead.

30 posted on 01/29/2013 5:08:43 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Strategerist

Oh Goody!

It looks like we have another opportunity to test our anti-missle systems!

But, Zer0, do you have the balls to shoot it down?


31 posted on 01/29/2013 5:20:32 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Wonder Warthog
You may be mixing up the design settled on for second stage of modern two stage nukes. yeah, the Russians did it first, we followed with the wildy successful Castle Bravo.

Boosting fission bombs, particularly where the pit is often removed may be a different matter. Not being a physicist, I could not say if you easily figure out the mechanics of stuffing solid Lithium Deuturide fuel capsule into a metallic Plutonium pit during manufacturing, or how well it would work.

Tritium being a gas, is easy to store by itself. Does not have a long shelf life, so needs to be renewed periodically. One of the problems being run into with our stockpile.

Since it can be injected quite easily into a hollow Pu pit, I gather that this is one of those "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" designs that has evolved in nukes.

If wrong, would love to read more, have read about this for longer than most Freepers have been alive. Sick fascination, perhaps, but I grew up with the duck and cover crap in schools.

32 posted on 01/29/2013 8:57:45 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: varmintman

Short answer: No.


33 posted on 01/30/2013 6:31:55 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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