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‘Voice of the Pope’ backs Obama gun edicts
Examiner ^ | 1/20/13 | David Codrea

Posted on 01/20/2013 11:34:19 AM PST by Nachum

In an editorial aired yesterday on Vatican Radio, Fr. Federico Lombardi, director of the press office of the Holy See, called “initiatives announced by the United States government in view of limiting and controlling the diffusion and use of arms … a step in the right direction.

“Forty-seven religious leaders of various confessions and religions have issued a call to American politicians to limit firearms, which ‘are making society pay an unacceptable price in terms of massacres and senseless deaths,’” Lombardi stated in his address. “I’m with them.”

While acknowledging “that arms, throughout the world, are also instruments for legitimate defense,” and even admitting “No one can be under the illusion that limiting their number and use would be enough to impede horrendous massacres in the future,” Lombardi nonetheless asserted “it is necessary to repeat tirelessly our calls for disarmament, to oppose the production, trade, and smuggling of arms of all types.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; gun; guncontrol; obama; pope; secondamendment; voice
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1 posted on 01/20/2013 11:34:34 AM PST by Nachum
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2 posted on 01/20/2013 11:35:51 AM PST by Nachum (Back on the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Do not let the NRA hear that!


3 posted on 01/20/2013 11:36:20 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Nachum

Who cares? The Pope does not vote in America. He holds no office.

The Pope should be more worried about his church dwindling to nothing in Europe and leave politics in America to Americans.


4 posted on 01/20/2013 11:38:25 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: RitaOK

The Pope should not play with evil like that.


5 posted on 01/20/2013 11:39:06 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Nachum

Those who desire control always favor gun restrictions and the church has a long history of wanting control.


6 posted on 01/20/2013 11:39:42 AM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Nachum

It is really none of their business.

Christ did not carry a sword but we know two of his disciples did. We also know that Peter carried one as he used it to slice off the ear of one of the soldiers who came to arrest Christ.

It seems to have been something which Christ had no problem with nor did he demand they carry one. He did ask for swords from his disciples but that was just to carry out prophecy.


7 posted on 01/20/2013 11:44:22 AM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: txrefugee

please do read the article. It isn’t the Pope who said anything. It was a priest who spoke for himself.


8 posted on 01/20/2013 11:45:21 AM PST by Cronos (Middle English prest, priest, Old English pruost, Late Latin presbyter, Latin presbuteros)
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To: Nachum

Two things to consider: they get all their information about the US from our press; and Lombardi is an Italian leftist who has gotten the Pope into trouble several times by making statements that reflected his personal take on things and had nothing to do with the Pope.

I think the Pope was close to getting rid of him a couple if years ago, but for some reason (probably feeling there were more important battles) he didn’t.


9 posted on 01/20/2013 11:45:32 AM PST by livius
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To: Nachum
‘Voice of the Pope’ backs Obama gun edicts

Sounds more like the voice of the Evil One !
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
10 posted on 01/20/2013 11:45:59 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: livius

Look for “pressure” coming from “conservative” Catholics to ask the Vatican to have Lombardi disciplined.


11 posted on 01/20/2013 11:52:45 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: livius

“Look for “pressure” coming from “conservative” Catholics to ask the Vatican to have Lombardi disciplined.”

Correction: Look for “pressure” coming from “conservative” American Catholics to ask the Vatican to have Lombardi disciplined.


12 posted on 01/20/2013 11:54:14 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Nachum

Is this the Mouth of the Pope?

13 posted on 01/20/2013 12:04:41 PM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Nachum
When he reins in his priests from chasing alterboys...
then maybe (non-Catholic) people will give him a little begrudged credibility...
14 posted on 01/20/2013 12:08:00 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: Nachum
Are they thinking at all the innocent lives that have been saved because people were armed? Like that lady who saved her twin girls and herself when a bad guy broke into her house?

She was able to do so because she was armed for protection and security.

I don't get it. Or, maybe they don't get it.

15 posted on 01/20/2013 12:11:47 PM PST by hummingbird
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To: Nachum

The false profit and the anti-christ, who would have known?


16 posted on 01/20/2013 12:12:08 PM PST by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: Nachum
The Catholic Church teaching is crystal clear:

In his Encyclical Letter from 1995, EVANGELIUM VITAE, Pope John Paul II writes:

"......Christian reflection has sought a fuller and deeper understanding of what God's commandment prohibits and prescribes. There are in fact situations in which values proposed by God's Law seem to involve a genuine paradox. This happens for example in the case of legitimate defense, in which the right to protect one's own life and the duty not to harm someone else's life are difficult to reconcile in practice. Certainly, the intrinsic value of life and the duty to love oneself no less than others are the basis of a true right to self-defense."

He goes on to say:

"...legitimate defense can be not only a right but a grave duty for someone responsible for another's life, the common good of the family or of the State. Unfortunately, it happens that the need to render the aggressor incapable of causing harm sometimes involves taking his life. In this case, the fatal outcome is attributable to the aggressor whose actions brought it about, even though he may not be morally responsible because of a lack of the use of reason."

Pope John Paul II knew exactly what happens when innocents are disarmed, having lived under both Nazism and communism. He did not believe in disarming citizens and neither does the Catholic Church, this spokesperson's personal opinion notwithstanding.

17 posted on 01/20/2013 12:17:58 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Nachum

I sent that to my Priest yesterday, I haven’t heard back yet doubt I ever do.

Catholics are having enough trouble with the Church today without stirring up American gun owners.

If they want empty pews, keep screwing around with America’s Freedoms.


18 posted on 01/20/2013 12:24:32 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Nachum

Another sell out from the vatican. I head a lot of big talk, but never seem to see big abortion guys like Cuomo, Pelosi, or the Kennedy’s excommunicated. They totally back the illegal mexican flood into the US, now they back gun control. They sure seem to have very little respect for the US Constitution or culture.


19 posted on 01/20/2013 12:29:14 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Saint Gabriel Possenti Society
20 posted on 01/20/2013 12:31:50 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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