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To: cuban leaf
Number two refers to a specific clause in the affordable health care act that protects patients from intrusive questions about guns.

That clause in the Affordable Care Act does not prevent Drs. from asking. It prevents Drs. and Insurance entities from creating a database with the answers and using such data to deny coverage or increase premiums. They can ask all they want. See EO #16.

35 posted on 01/16/2013 9:30:50 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Humans have eliminated natural selection. Morons are now a protected species. They breed and vote.)
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This should be the clarion call to all of those that think we can survive Obama. Once they have the 50%+1 vote, they will ban guns and they will come for them.


47 posted on 01/16/2013 9:34:42 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
The Affordable Care Act has:
    ``(c) Protection of Second Amendment Gun Rights.--
            ``(1) Wellness and prevention programs.--A wellness and 
        health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) 
        may not require the disclosure or collection of any information 
        relating to--
                    ``(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-
                possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on 
                the property of an individual; or

[[Page 124 STAT. 885]]

                    ``(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a 
                firearm or ammunition by an individual.
            ``(2) Limitation on data collection.--None of the 
        authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient 
        Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that 
        Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the 
        collection of any information relating to--
                    ``(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a 
                firearm or ammunition;
                    ``(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
                    ``(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.
            ``(3) Limitation on databases or data banks.--None of the 
        authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient 
        Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that 
        Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to maintain 
        records of individual ownership or possession of a firearm or 
        ammunition.
I think that Obama will try to weasel his way out of that by "hinting" to health providers that they better ask anyway.

The part about forwarding HIPPA-protected data into the background-check system worries me the most. It could lead to a situation where if you've ever seen a psychiatrist for depression, it creates a permanent red flag.

71 posted on 01/16/2013 9:42:58 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

See EO #16.


Yeah, I made a follow up comment that what I was actually thinking of was what was addressed in 16. My bad.


119 posted on 01/16/2013 10:15:09 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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