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Polls show voters favor broad range of new gun measures (WAPO/ABC Propaganda Poll)
Hill ^ | 01/14/13 06:20 PM ET | Justin Sink

Posted on 01/14/2013 4:15:37 PM PST by Red Steel

Americans support a wide range of new measures to combat gun violence, including majority support for background checks, an assault weapons ban, and placing armed police in schools according to a pair of new polls released Monday.

The surveys, preformed by Pew Research and the Washington Post/ABC News, both find that Americans generally support a broad array of efforts in the aftermath of the Newtown, Conn. elementary school shooting that left 20 children and 6 school employees dead.

Among the most popular proposal in either survey was closing the so-called "gun show" loophole, which allows the private sale of guns without a background check. Some 88 percent of those in the WaPo/ABC survey and 85 percent of those in the Pew poll supported such a measure.

Establishing a central database to track gun purchases also earned broad support, with two-thirds of respondents in the Pew survey and 71 percent of the WaPo/ABC respondents supporting such a plan. And majorities of both the WaPo/ABC (65 percent) and Pew (54 percent) surveys said they support eliminating the sale of high capacity magazines for semi-automatic weapons.

On Monday, President Obama said each of those measures were likely to find their way into a legislative package he will detail later in the week.

"The things that I’ve said in the past -- the belief that we have to have stronger background checks, that we can do a much better job in terms of keeping these magazine clips with high capacity out of the hands of folks who shouldn’t have them, an assault weapons ban that is meaningful -- that those are things I continue to believe make sense," Obama said at a White House press conference.

The assault weapons ban is likely to be a stumbling block in Congress, where Republicans have signaled likely opposition — and even Democrats have cautioned the president. During a weekend appearance on a Nevada PBS affiliate, Sen. Majority Leader Harry Reid (R-Nev.) said such legislation was unlikely to pass Congress.

“Let’s be realistic. In the Senate, we’re going to do what we think can get through the House. And I’m not going to be going through a bunch of these gyrations just to say we’ve done something because if we’re really legislators, the purpose of it is to pass legislation,” Reid said.

But that too garners majority support among those surveyed, with 55 percent of Pew respondents and 58 percent of WaPo/ABC respondents saying they support such a ban.

Voters are also broadly supportive of a plan floated by the National Rifle Association to increase the number of armed security guards or police officers in school buildings. Nearly two-thirds of Pew respondents and 55 percent of those surveyed in the WaPo/ABC poll said they supported such a measure, which President Obama told NBC News he was "skeptical" about

That's despite generally unfavorable views of the NRA itself. In the Washington Post poll, only 36 percent of those surveyed said they had a favorable opinion of the group, while a plurality — 38 percent — said the NRA had too much influence over the gun debate. Three in 10 said the group had the "right amount" of influence, while just under a quarter said the NRA had too little influence.

Democrats are far more likely to support new restrictions on guns and ammunition, with no proposal other than closing the gun show loophole and restricting sales to the mentally ill garnering more than half of Republicans, according to the Pew Poll. Republicans are, however, more supportive of putting armed security guards in school, by a 73-62 percent margin.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; pushpoll; secondamendment
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1 posted on 01/14/2013 4:15:49 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Mob rule does not trump 2A.

This is why we're (supposed to be) a Constitutional Republic.

Poll, just like Barry's opinion, don't mean crap on this subject.

2 posted on 01/14/2013 4:17:34 PM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: Red Steel

Who they claimed was polled and who did the polling:

“METHODOLOGY – This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone Jan. 10-13, 2013, among a random national sample of 1,001 adults, including landline and cell-phone-only respondents. Results have a margin of sampling error of 3.5 points, including design effect. Partisan divisions are 33-24-37 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents.

The survey was produced for ABC News by Langer Research Associates of New York, N.Y., with sampling, data collection and tabulation by Abt-SRBI of New York, N.Y.”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/01/on-eve-of-newtown-recommendations-most-back-new-gun-control-measures/


3 posted on 01/14/2013 4:19:26 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

If people are for “Gun control” than how come gun sales have been going through the roof..Hey Media..SCREW YOU we know what is going on here..Mark Levin is talking about this phony piece of garbage poll right now..its all nonsense to promote the left wing agenda of abolishing the 2nd Amendment


4 posted on 01/14/2013 4:19:26 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Red Steel

Meh, did they even call anyone outside of a big East Coast city? I guarantee I don’t actually know a soul in favor of this rubbish and I do actually know a fair number of Democrats.


5 posted on 01/14/2013 4:20:37 PM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Yeah, the poll doesn’t reflect reality.


6 posted on 01/14/2013 4:20:46 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Sarah Barracuda

What is “phony” and “garbage” about it other than you don’t like the results?


7 posted on 01/14/2013 4:21:21 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Red Steel

They never asked me, or anyone I know....


8 posted on 01/14/2013 4:21:45 PM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: Red Steel

I favor bringing back “Old Sparky.”


9 posted on 01/14/2013 4:22:13 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: drbuzzard

They polled NY Slimes and Wah Compost, and ABC newsrooms.


10 posted on 01/14/2013 4:23:05 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

This crap really doesn’t matter anymore. It’s gone beyond this sort of attempted manipulation.


11 posted on 01/14/2013 4:24:20 PM PST by dljordan (Voltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: grobdriver
Mob rule does not trump 2A.

The 1st response to the post...and it is a PERFECT response...and it was delivered in less than 2 minutes.

PERFECTION BUMP!

12 posted on 01/14/2013 4:25:14 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Sarah Barracuda
If people are for “Gun control” than how come gun sales have been going through the roof

You do realize it is mathematically possible for 1) most of the population to be in favor of some degree of new restrictions on guns and 2) gun sales to have recently skyrocketed to BOTH be true, don't you?

13 posted on 01/14/2013 4:25:28 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Red Steel

Excuse me while I call BS on this ‘poll’. I’d say that the record gun sales in the past month are a better indicator of public sentiment than some propaganda push-poll by a bunch of left-wing hacks.


14 posted on 01/14/2013 4:25:40 PM PST by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Red Steel

Was this a poll of newsrooms, faculty lounges, ACORN, Soros-affiliated groups, union leaders, Unitarian & Quaker congregations, Code Pink, Democrat campaign headquarters and teacher’s lounges?


15 posted on 01/14/2013 4:26:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Red Steel

Where did they take the poll? Gun shows? Walmart? Local Sporting Goods Store? I think not.


16 posted on 01/14/2013 4:26:05 PM PST by w1andsodidwe (Barrak has now won the contest. He is even worse than Jimmah.)
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To: Red Steel
Among the most popular proposal in either survey was closing the so-called "gun show" loophole, which allows the private sale of guns without a background check. Some 88 percent of those in the WaPo/ABC survey and 85 percent of those in the Pew poll supported such a measure.

What a load of pure unadulterated bullshit. I'll bet 90 % of those polled know absolutely nothing about gun show and private gun sales let alone background checks.

17 posted on 01/14/2013 4:27:38 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Red Steel

I don’t give a rat’s ass what the majority of people think about my God given rights.

I would prefer to have a Constitutional Republic, but if that isn’t possible, I damn sure intend to be in charge.


18 posted on 01/14/2013 4:28:23 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: MeganC

I realize nobody actually bothered to read far enough to learn this, but if it is a rigged, propaganda poll, why do most of the respondents support the NRA armed guards in school plan?


19 posted on 01/14/2013 4:28:47 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Red Steel
Some 88 percent of those in the WaPo/ABC survey and 85 percent of those in the Pew poll supported such a measure.

Are these the same people clearing out the shelves of guns, ammo and accessories?

Who is one to believe? The media? Or their own lying eyes watching AR's fly off the shelf?
20 posted on 01/14/2013 4:31:05 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

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21 posted on 01/14/2013 4:31:47 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Strategerist
'What is “phony” and “garbage” about it other than you don’t like the results?'

Gallup, a far more reputable organization, did a poll recently that found 51% of Americans oppose a new "assault weapons ban".

http://www.gallup.com/poll/159569/americans-stricter-gun-laws-oppose-bans.aspx

Money quote:

"Americans' views on the sale of assault rifles are unchanged. The slight majority, 51%, remain opposed to making it illegal to manufacture, sell, or possess semi-automatic guns known as assault rifles." BTW, those in favor of a ban number 44%, so the margin isn't so "slight" really.

22 posted on 01/14/2013 4:35:03 PM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: Strategerist

“I realize nobody actually bothered to read far enough to learn this, but if it is a rigged, propaganda poll, why do most of the respondents support the NRA armed guards in school plan?”

It’s a red herring for ersatz credibility.

What truly matters is how the question was phrased:

“Sir, if you were at a public school and it was under attack by mobs of zombies would you be for or against having armed guards at the school?”


23 posted on 01/14/2013 4:37:09 PM PST by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

If the DUmb Dems are sooooo sure that this poll is soooo accurate, then they should be able to get a plethora of Brady Bum bills to fly through Congress?

Did the idiots New York pollsters define ‘Assault Weapons’ to the low information voter? You can bet the low info person who was polled conjured up everything from bazookas to grenade launchers.


24 posted on 01/14/2013 4:38:15 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: grobdriver
Mob rule does not trump 2A.

wanna bet?

25 posted on 01/14/2013 4:40:34 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Travis McGee

Hitler and Obama both share the same vision..to control a nation one must disarm it’s citizens


26 posted on 01/14/2013 4:40:50 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Red in Blue PA

All you have to do is look at who paid for this poll and who were the pollsters to figure out that it was highly skewed to the liberal viewpoint.


27 posted on 01/14/2013 4:41:01 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Are we really going to claim the polls are wrong after this past election?

These were two polls actually (ABC/Wapo and Pew), and they both generally showed the same results.

America’s demographics are changing rapidly and the movement politically is to the left. Virtually all these new Hispanics are liberal voters and have no knowledge of why the 2nd Amendment is so important. We still lose sizable numbers of white people as the country becomes more urban and less rural. The younger generations seem wedded to government and don’t mind growing it to the moon. Heck we even lose Asians (a demographic we used to win not long ago) worse than we do even Hispanics. The country is moving in the wrong direction and that is reflected in public opinion. So why should we not believe these polls again?

This country really is in serious trouble. The right needs to unify pretty quick and find a way to stay on message and go on the offensive. As is we are just getting pummeled right now. I think another good place to start is for the producers that understand what is going on to start buying up as much media as possible. Wasting money on Karl Rove’s super PAC got us nowhere in 2012. This nation is on a downward spiral and I don’t know how much time we have left before it’s simply too late.


28 posted on 01/14/2013 4:42:53 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Red Steel

What I can’t figure out is why the big push on gun control when you’re chances of being killed by a random gunman are about the same as being struck by lightning. BUT your chances of being killed by a drunk driver are much, much higher. One person is killed every half hour due to drunk driving. Each year approximately 16,000 are killed in alcohol related crashes. Why not push towards controlling the bigger problem that is killing many, many more people? I don’t get it.


29 posted on 01/14/2013 4:43:13 PM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: Red Steel

The Leftwing faction in media is the Country’s greatest threat.


30 posted on 01/14/2013 4:43:42 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Red Steel

A poll doesn’t trump our rights.


31 posted on 01/14/2013 4:45:04 PM PST by stockpirate (Sen. John Kerry belonged to the terrorist group VVAW.)
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To: Red Steel

             

32 posted on 01/14/2013 4:51:46 PM PST by tomkat ( .. shall not be infringed)
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To: Longbow1969

I’ll make a prediction. Feinstein is not going to get squat through Congress. This poll here doesn’t reflect reality.

However, Gallup’s poll is likely much more reflective which was posted above:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2978129/posts?page=22#22


33 posted on 01/14/2013 4:58:41 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

How many would support a ban on “assault judges” (i.e., ‘Rose Bird type’ judges who are soft on violent criminals)?


34 posted on 01/14/2013 4:58:41 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: Red Steel

Well the Dems are PERFECTLY FREE to follow this poll.

Us Conservatives would JUST LOVE to see them ELIMINATED as a legitimate political party - so all I can say to them is: HAVE AT IT!!!

Let’s see some REAL GUN CONTROL, just so we can throw you out with the garbage next week.

(but the Dems know all this...their REAL TARGET are weak-knee’d Republicans that aren’t able to understand it)


35 posted on 01/14/2013 5:01:08 PM PST by BobL
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To: tuffydoodle

It’s a liberal wet dream. It’s not what guns can do to stop their wildest agendas but guns also represents what they despise.


36 posted on 01/14/2013 5:02:58 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: stockpirate

Bonehead must go!


37 posted on 01/14/2013 5:03:19 PM PST by bicyclerepair ( >-> Zombies eat brains. >-> 50% of FL is safe.)
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To: Red Steel

I would have been more impressed by this WAPO/abc “poll” if 50% of the bonehead respondents could have given them the name of the murderer at the school. I doubt more than 5% could have answered that question.


38 posted on 01/14/2013 5:06:21 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (HealthCare IS NOT a right. The RIGHT to keep and bear arms is.)
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To: Red Steel
I’ll make a prediction. Feinstein is not going to get squat through Congress.

You're right, nothing is likely to pass Congress. Feinstein's bill won't even get out of the Senate.

My point was only that it is unwise to assume polling we don't like isn't accurate. Most of what passes for the American public are now getting their queues from an increasingly leftist education, media and entertainment establishment that are entirely shot through with leftism. On top of that the demographic changes do not bode well based on current voting patterns. We are likely to be shocked at the kind of stuff the new American public will support. A majority of them have no regard whatsoever for the Constitution, they are more likely to know what the Kardashians are doing than what the 2nd amendment says.

39 posted on 01/14/2013 5:07:54 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Red Steel

Both polls were probably taken within the NYC limits. :)


40 posted on 01/14/2013 5:10:07 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Strategerist

Both polls were administered in New York. That would be like having DV advocates on Rhode Island administering a poll on DV. ;-)


41 posted on 01/14/2013 5:21:22 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I would be skeptical if this highly political pollster told me if the snow is white.
- - - - - - - - -

“Our work is informed by the rigor of our methods, acuity of our analysis and integrity of our approach. We’re gratified that the outcome of our efforts has been recognized with praise from clients and colleagues alike.

“Gary Langer, who is our great pollster…”
Former ABC News Anchor Peter Jennings, “Larry King Live,” 9/13/02

“When Gary Langer talks, the White House listens.”
Former ABC News Anchor Ted Koppel, “Nightline,” 9/2/04

“No one I know can write polls so cleanly, read them so accurately and speak about them so clearly.”
ABC News Anchor George Stephanopoulos

“There is no one in the media who understands public opinion better than Gary Langer.”
ABC News Correspondent Cokie Roberts”

http://www.langerresearch.com/content.php?i=5


42 posted on 01/14/2013 5:22:45 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Strategerist

I helped with a ‘90s study that showed feminist subjectivity skewing feminist research, BTW. ;-)


43 posted on 01/14/2013 5:23:28 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Red Steel

Show me something that works, something that would have kept those 20 kids alive and I will back it. Anything else is just political grandstanding. Obama is good at that.


44 posted on 01/14/2013 5:29:12 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: Red Steel

Shows most Americans haven’t a ****ing clue as to what an “assault weapon” is.


45 posted on 01/14/2013 6:26:23 PM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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To: Red Steel

I agree with others here. The actions of America do not agree with this poll.


46 posted on 01/14/2013 6:28:30 PM PST by davetex (Location: The Alamo)
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To: ScottinVA
Shows most Americans haven’t a ****ing clue as to what an “assault weapon” is.

If you substitute the term ".22 rifle" for "assault weapon", you'd get a totally different response.

47 posted on 01/14/2013 6:30:24 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: ScottinVA

Do so! They are black. Time to ban the color black.


48 posted on 01/14/2013 6:38:58 PM PST by zagger
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To: Red Steel

The average citizen has no concept of the Second Amendment. That is why we have the representative system where citizens are represented by those who are expected to know enough about the Constitution so that laws are not passed that violate it. We should be operating like a Republic and not mob type rule.


49 posted on 01/14/2013 6:49:08 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: grobdriver

Here’s what it’s all about. They keep talking about “close the gun-show loophole”. The reality is that the vendors selling guns have to follow the laws and send in a NIC’s check. What they are after is to keep us a private citizen from selling our guns to another private citizen without jumping through their hurtles. In NC our previous AG (now Ex.Gov.) managed to get a bill passed that requires private citizens to demand a pistol permit when they sell a pistol. What the heck am I going to do with a paper permit from a private buyer except wipe my A$$ with it. I am not an FFL dealer but they want me to act like one. Totally Insane!


50 posted on 01/14/2013 7:04:27 PM PST by Ab Alius Domitor ("In the end; the winner")
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