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How long are we going to stand for the proverbial wool being pulled over our eyes? There was no fiscal cliff, there is no crisis. There are other important issues at stake other than just gun control. Make sure to share with your friends. Let's stay focused people!
1 posted on 01/11/2013 10:06:10 AM PST by IndePundit
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The second is that federal entitlement programs are constitutionally protected from spending cuts.

Must be in the same section of the Constitution that bestows a right to Abortion and Sodomy...

2 posted on 01/11/2013 10:10:29 AM PST by apillar
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Forgot to post the title: Rivkin and Casey: The Myth of Government Default
3 posted on 01/11/2013 10:10:46 AM PST by IndePundit (Bleeding Red)
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RE :”The first is that Congress's failure to raise the debt ceiling—the amount of money the federal government is authorized to borrow at any given time—will cause a default on the national debt. “

You have to listen to them carefully, they make it sound like that but the typically say “The House GOP is willing to let us default on or ‘obligations’”

But what are those ‘obligations’ ??

those are spending bills passed into law by congress and signed by POTUS, some by the current congress CR, others by past congresses.

But people hear ‘obligations’=’national debt interest payments’

That's how Dems fight and win,.

5 posted on 01/11/2013 10:14:31 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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One uniquely perturbing lie, and I’m not sure why, is that we’ve never defaulted on our debt before. I should ignore it altogether, for as the debt ceiling offers no particular danger of default it is irrelevant. However it is so damned obvious and well known that we have defaulted, and spectacularly, that it gets my goat when it isn’t acknowledged.

If at no other time the federal government on a massive scale welched on conntractual obligations when they deliberately took us off the gold standard. I don’t care if SCOTUS in the Gold Clause Cases said it was okay. Nevertheless we defaulted.


6 posted on 01/11/2013 10:19:42 AM PST by Tublecane
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The GOP should raise the debt ceiling when the Dems get a budget passed.


7 posted on 01/11/2013 10:20:27 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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Subscription? What did it say?


10 posted on 01/11/2013 10:25:07 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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15 posted on 01/11/2013 11:04:26 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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Rivkin and Casey: The Myth of Government Default - WSJ.com

http://rightcoast.typepad.com/rightcoast/2013/01/rivkin-and-casey-the-myth-of-government-default-wsjcom.html

Once these false arguments are cleared away, the real issue in the debt-ceiling debate becomes clear: the proper level of federal spending. Should Congress fail to increase the debt ceiling as much as the president wants, the effective result would be major government spending cuts, with payments on public debt excluded.

This is tough medicine and not to be administered lightly. If Republicans are serious about winning this debate, they must strive to convince the American people that such spending cuts are necessary, given President Obama’s openly articulated unwillingness to implement any meaningful spending cuts other than defense and his clear preference for limitless borrowing.

Whether they can succeed in this task is unclear. But the public must at least be allowed to ponder these vital issues without being misled by false claims involving debt default, the nature of federal obligations, and which branch of government is in charge of the public fisc.


17 posted on 01/11/2013 11:26:04 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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Gee, I’d luv to read that but, they want me to subscribe....


21 posted on 01/11/2013 1:25:25 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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