If there is a diagnosis that somebody is an immediate threat to themselves or others, they need to be locked up. At that point its not a matter of dickering of what civil rights they may or may not have, and firearms ownership should be among the least considerations. If somebody is going to be dangerous with a firearm due to psychosis, they are every bit as much a threat with a car, an axe, a chainsaw etc. and need to be committed.
correct - and that is why we should steer the focus to the failings of the mental health industry since all of these psychos who did these mass killings were clinically F’ed up!
It is not the weapon that is the problem it is the insane and the criminal. The politicians want to control law abiding citizens and they can only do that if they disarm us first. Instead of controlling the problems, the politicians let the criminals and insane run free on the streets to commit crimes and then use those crimes against us and not against the criminals and insane. If someone of age is not responsible enough to a full member of society (full rights including self defense rights) then they should not be in society. We cannot allow the government to infringe because the government only takes and we will never get it back.