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Let's be Honest: Guns are just a small part of the USA's problems.
BI ^ | 12/23/2012 | Geoffrey Ingersoll

Posted on 01/09/2013 5:32:14 AM PST by GlockThe Vote

Let's be clear: when Congress passes an "assault weapons" ban (and they will pass a ban), it'll be pretty much toothless.

That the law will likely leave most things unchanged doesn't matter — the government simply has to do something.

Much like Clinton's ban in 1994, this new legislation will be rife with loopholes.

To effectively ban weapons in the U.S., a country with 90 guns for every 100 people, the government would have to outlaw all semiautomatic weapons.

That's not all though.

It would then have to double, if not triple, the staff at Alcohol Tobacco Firearms, and sweep through the nation conducting mandatory buybacks, using the FBI's gun registry as a roadmap. That's right, no grandfathered weapons allowed either (unlike Rep. Diane Feinstein's new bill, which allows grandfathered weapons).

To call the strategy costly would be an understatement — even in terms of human cost — how long before the ATF is in an intense shootout with some Midwestern militia?

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; duplicate; guncontrol; secondamendment; tyranny; wewillnotcomply; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: GlockThe Vote
"To effectively ban weapons in the U.S. ... the government would have to ... double, if not triple, the staff at Alcohol Tobacco Firearms"

Wrong.

To effectively confiscate almost all weapons in the US, all Obama and the "progressive" gun grabbers will have to do is hand the matter over to the IRS. Freeze the bank accounts of all known gun owners until they turn them in. And everyone with a frozen account or lien would do so. That day.

Problem solved.

Don't think they haven't thought of it.

61 posted on 01/09/2013 8:39:25 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

***There is no way an assault weapons ban will pass both houses of congress.***

Oh yes they can! The 1968 GCL and the Clinton AW ban passed only because they added lots of PORK in the form of cash for “crime control”.

Even John Dingell resigned from the NRA Board of Directors to vote for the AW ban.


62 posted on 01/09/2013 8:39:40 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (GUNS.. the rightful property of freemen, and formidable only to tyrannical governments.”)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Yes you and the left. The left because they just are sheep following their masters and hoping for free goodies. In your case maybe you are not thinking it through or maybe you are an idiot. We are in this boat because Congress started restricting the rights of the people with gun control acts and they keep pushing for more. First it was just felons now it is domestic violence even without a conviction. They push and take and that is ok with you well next if may be people on FR or Republicans just any made up rule. If you do not understand that maybe you are not responsible.


63 posted on 01/09/2013 8:42:23 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Yep that law worked real well, just like the ‘34 one. They all think one more law will fix it.


64 posted on 01/09/2013 8:46:15 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: Ratman83

Yeah - you come across sane - lets arm ex-cons, people who are bi-polar, and schizzo.


65 posted on 01/09/2013 8:46:28 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Ratman83

Did I say take away anyones’ gun?

No. So screw off with your strawman holier than thou garbage. I said we need to keep guns out of the hands of mentally deranged people like these mass killers all were. That means adults being responsible if they have these phsycos under their roofs or in their family.

You want to fight for the right for ex-cons and schizzo’s to get CCW - have at it - let me know many people you convince to your way of thinking in this debate.


66 posted on 01/09/2013 8:50:51 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

You come across as a leftist, “it is for the children” or other bs motive. The Constitution is not a pick and choose what you like event, failing to follow it has allowed the government trample on US citizens rights and walk away free. I guess that is ok with you.


67 posted on 01/09/2013 8:55:38 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: Ratman83

Go read the Heller decision which is law of the land and get back to before tossing names around like a child.


68 posted on 01/09/2013 9:01:55 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Any article from Business Insider that starts with “Let’s be honest...” is bound to amuse. It’s in the style book.


69 posted on 01/09/2013 9:04:50 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

True - the headlines over there are absurd.

LOL at some poster calling me a leftist.

I am called a gun extremist everywhere else but FR - go figure.


70 posted on 01/09/2013 9:13:37 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Did I say let the insane keep guns? No I did not, I said treat the problem, the individual, not violate someone else’s rights. I fight for our Constitutional rights, you well you only fight for people that are acceptable to you. Well the left loves to divide and conquer and we found your limit.


71 posted on 01/09/2013 9:14:36 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: Ratman83

The Heller decision is clear that some restrictions are ok. Did you miss that?


72 posted on 01/09/2013 9:24:54 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Heller only pertains to DC, McDonald v Chicago made it the law of the land.


73 posted on 01/09/2013 9:25:50 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: GlockThe Vote

Of course government says the get to apply restrictions and that is once again ok with you. Before I did not call you part of the left but now, you sound like a sheep so maybe you are on the left.


74 posted on 01/09/2013 9:28:36 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: GlockThe Vote

Judging by the little Commie Tyrant who currently occupies the White Hut, it appears that STUPID Voters are a much bigger problem.


75 posted on 01/09/2013 9:29:37 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (I don't Trust a Government that doesn't Trust me. How about you Comrade?)
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To: Ratman83

government says the get = government says they get


76 posted on 01/09/2013 9:31:53 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: Ratman83

Calling names is for immature children typically seen on the left - glass houses and rocks don’t mix.


77 posted on 01/09/2013 9:32:37 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I shake my head in dismay.


78 posted on 01/09/2013 9:34:22 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Yeah - is it any wonder why we are where we are? Arguing now that we should allow Bi-Polar, Schizzo, Ex-Felons, and mentally deranged people to get CCW and not at least try to get people better trained and more responsible.

SMH.


79 posted on 01/09/2013 9:39:02 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Boo hoo.

The government violated the Constitution and that is ok with you.


80 posted on 01/09/2013 9:44:56 AM PST by Ratman83
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