Icelandic girl fights for right to her own name

AP ^ | 01/03/2013

[Einherjar]

A 15-year-old is suing the Icelandic state for the right to legally use the name given to her by her mother. The problem? Blaer, which means "light breeze" in Icelandic, is not on a list approved by the government.

[MotorCityBuck]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7FixvoKBw

[Lazamataz]

An interesting countersuit might be if I filed because YOU are stalking ME..... every time I post "I'd hit it", there you are with your obsessive-compulsive internet-bullying stalker-following nanny-state anti-first-amendment freedom-hating religious-Taliban neonazi-fascist self.

To that, I say this:

[Eye of Unk]

If I were to add another member to my family he would be named Sig Colt Remington. If it was a girl, Beretta Glock.

[don-o]

I understand that sexual immorality is a classic subject for one form of humor. I can laugh at some of that myself. There is a time and a place.

But, bottom line, sexual immorality is no laughing matter. It undermines the foundation and maintenance of the family.

FR touts itself as pro-family.

[momtothree]

Proved my point! I saw that picture and busted out laughing. Feel better this morning already. Thanks, Laz.. you never disappoint. Hugs, Mom

[Mich Patriot]

Me too, you can even pick first...I’ll take the other.

[SW6906]

I'm not saying I agree with it from a freedom standpoint, just that it is not based on control of the people. It is based on preserving the culture.

And the people voted for it and support it. Iceland has the oldest continuously functioning democracy on the planet.

[momtothree]

Definition of the word JOKE: something said or done to provoke laughter especially a brief oral narrative with a climactic, humorous twist. Something NOT to be taken seriously: a trifling matter.

[Lazamataz]

It undermines the foundation and maintenance of the family. FR touts itself as pro-family.

Hu-LOOOOOOO.... how do you think families are cre-ATE-eeddddd......

[Lazamataz]

[don-o]

No stalking here. I opened a thread because Iceland is interesting to me. I had no idea that your regrettable comment would appear.

You, otoh, have clearly announced your intent, plan and modus. So, case closed on your suit.

And if upholding traditional morality equates in your mind to Taliban, I am at a loss on how to even begin to understand such a mindset.

[Mich Patriot]

"But, bottom line, sexual immorality is no laughing matter. It undermines the foundation and maintenance of the family."

So because I have hormones AND a sense of humor, I couldn't possibly be a good family man? Got it.

We have enough girly men these days...I'm a REAL man and proud of it, and my lady wouldn't want me any other way.

[Lazamataz]

YOU OPPRESS ME LIKE THE TALIBAN OPPRESSES CHRISTIANS!!!!!

[Lazamataz]

[momtothree]

As a Mom of three kids... I agree. I have to laugh! I adore a good sense of humor. Gets me through the day and with everything going on financially, socially and politically.... laughing helps. Joking is joking... sexual immorality is a whole different ball of wax. It is the acting out that gets a person in trouble... not making a joke.

[Ditter]

I think in Holland a child’s name has to be on the approved list (I was told). My Dutch friend has grandchildren in Holland and they have some pretty weird names so I don’t know if they are on the list or not.

[Disambiguator]

Having worked in the “inner city” for most of my so called professional career, a recurring dream is that I am the principal of an all black high school and I will have to read the names of all the graduates. Make that a nightmare.

You might find this amusing.

[rightly_dividing]

Or a dash maybe. The dash don’t be silent

[CAluvdubya]

Lighten up, Francis.

Get over yourself. Aren't you the one that wanted to police everyone's language because they used asterick's instead of swearing? You seem to be falling into the government control thing a little too easily...

[ksen]

I imagined being a teacher in such a school. On the first day of class, I would have each of the students recite their first name and would then Anglicize it (or convert it to whatever comes close to being an actual name). I would tell them this is their grown-up name that will get them through life, get them a real job and keep them out of prison. Of course, I’d be fired and accused of being racist for doing nothing more than trying to help improve the students. If we had teachers actually willing to do that, it would go a long way into rescuing a culture set adrift to the lowest common denominator.

Yes, there's nothing racist at all about wanting to give black kids more white sounding names. I mean if Toby was good enough for their ancestors it should be good enough for them. :facepalm:

[don-o]

I am the one, but my name is not Francis.

Profanity - I have encouraged the owner to either enforce his own rule (no profanity, personal attacks, violence or racist posting) or else change the rule.

[CAluvdubya]

LOL, you pinged the owner over this?

Frowny faces create more wrinkles than laugh lines. Puckering your lips in a "Tsk, tsk" motion makes a bunch of tiny lines around your mouth that will never go away.

Maybe you should watch Duck Dynasty. They are funny, religious, and even a tad bit risque.....never mind, you wouldn't like it.

[don-o]

LOL, you pinged the owner over this?

Common board protocol to ping one who one mentions in a post.

[Prospero]

Interesting gene pool. Nice lungs.

[ataDude]

This is us in 10 years.

[ataDude]

Bahawaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

[fieldmarshaldj]

How many Black parents today are naming their children ACTUAL African names ? "Sharniqua'a Tahwumikaa" isn't an African name, it's a nonsense name. This has been an appalling trend since the 1960s and only condemns most of their children to a permanent position on the lowest rung of the socioeconomic scale. How bad is it when one reads an article about a criminal and because of the name, we instantly know their race ? I contend even naming these children as such is racist, and divisive... cultural apartheid.

By using the Kunta Kinte/Toby analogy, you've completely misunderstood and misrepresented what I've said. Nevermind that was a fictitious character to begin with, you're implying that by replacing a nonsense name (that has absolutely nothing to do with African heritage) with a mainstream name, that it equates to slavery. The whole point is to LIFT them out of the bondage that having such names keeps them in.

BTW, there is a "White" equivalent of that nonsense, with the children of hippies given such absurd names and amongst some today to go on bizarre orthographic expeditions on mainstream names (with the overdose of "e"'s "i's" and "y's").

[HomeAtLast]

As prudes go, I’m in the nationals. Yet I had no idea that “hit” in the Laz sense had any inherent immorality about it. I have always equated it with “hit on,” and “make a pass at.” It’s making advances, given suitable material to work on and a little serendipity. In the event, it would be odd if he did not rise to the occasion. In the abstract, it’s just harmlessly facetious.

It also seems to have a life of its own, a longevity and (microcosmic) universality, qualities common to classic humor, as recurrently funny as a pratfall or a custard pie.

Carry on, Laz. You wicked funny man.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

One has to be careful how you name your child anymore. My Great-grandfather had a good name 150 years ago. His Great-great-great gransdon was given the same name. I would NEVER name a child that name in today’s world.

Years ago, names like Percival was a good name, but no longer, and my Great-grandfather’s name was worse in today’s culture.

[Lazamataz]

Yet I had no idea that “hit” in the Laz sense had any inherent immorality about it. I have always equated it with “hit on,” and “make a pass at.”

When directed at liberal women, it usually involves this:

[Lazamataz]

[catfish1957]

Still have not made the decision not to be a jerk, eh?

[catfish1957]

I agree. Laz is an icon here at FR. Don-O???, never heard of the sucker.

[GraceG]

Laz would hit one who was Tall Laz would hit them at the Mall

Laz would hit a girl in the Fall Laz would pretty much hit them ALL!

[Lazamataz]

Huh. My book reads:

One fish,
Two fish,
Red fish,
Naked sweaty bodies all writhing in a pile and moaning.

[catfish1957]

I am a genealogist, and can give several examples. One good seasonal favorite of mine is the name Ebenezer. If you have an Anglo background, I'd say the odds are better than 50-50 that you have an ancestor by that name.

Guy in the 19th century named Dickens kind of changed the frequency of the use of that name.

[BillyBoy]

They have done studies in America that show that if there are two equally qualified black applicants for a job, and one is named something like "Dayqyan Mfundo" and the other is named "Mike Jones", then "Mike Jones" is something like 5X more likely to get the job. Giving American born kids idiotic "exotic" names tends to hurt their chances of success and alienates them from mainstream society.

People will scream "racism!" if you crictize black people for doing it, but Field is right that I've seen the trend of ridiculous sounding names very common among white and hispanic Americans since the 1960s too. Some examples of idiotic names that rich white celebrities have given their kids include Pilot Inspektor, Fifi Trixibelle, Sage Moonblood, Memphis Eve, Blue Angel, Audio Science, Moxie Crimefighter, and Bronx Mowgli. Some of the American born hispanic names I've heard include Iker, Jerónimo, Jesús Concepción, Eustaquio, Casimiro, Melquaiades, Crisostromo, Rutilio, Humberto, Aniceto, and Luz (spanish for "light"). And examples of crazy black names include Aaja, Acacia, Ajeenah ,DaQuan, Diezel, Placenta, Lemonjello, Timphanie, Tryphenia, Tywana, Tzaddi and Tzavvi.

Notice I don't include "unusual" names, such as Claribell and Francis (for a guy). Those names are no longer common but I've met people with those names and they're actual legitimate names.

The problem is black people giving their kids faux "African" names they made up themselves, white people naming their kids after cutie objects and things that are not suitable human names, and hispanics giving their kids faux "spanish-sounding" and/or religious blasphemous names. Any of these is going to ostracize the kid in society, IMO.

I've been joking for years that since only Asians consistently give American born children "normal" names (John, Kimberly, Eddie, David, Jane, Molly, etc.), we should appoint a blue ribbon panel of asians to review baby names in this country and fine anyone $200 who gives their kid a retarded name. It sounds a bit fascist but this trend of Mackenzie's and Mackayla's (I know at least 3 women who gave their child that name, including my cousin) has got to stop. I even know a guy who named his newborn son "Rex". That should be a dog's name, not a person.

[ksen]

They have done studies in America that show that if there are two equally qualified black applicants for a job, and one is named something like "Dayqyan Mfundo" and the other is named "Mike Jones", then "Mike Jones" is something like 5X more likely to get the job. Giving American born kids idiotic "exotic" names tends to hurt their chances of success and alienates them from mainstream society.

The problem you are describing is not with the one's having the "exotic" names. It's with the decision makers bypassing perfectly acceptable candidates based simply on how their name sounds.

[RedWhiteBlue]

In reverse, look what happens when an inner city teacher subs at a mostly white school: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7FixvoKBw

[marsh2]

I lived in Iceland as a Navy wife for a couple of years.If I recall, the last names of the Icelanders is their father’s name plus dottir (if they are a girl) and son of they are a boy. So if your Dad’s first name is John and you were a girl, your last name would be Blaer Johnsdottir. If you were a boy it would be whatever Johnson.

I think it would be more important to keep the boy’s names traditional to preserve the culture.

[GOPsterinMA]

First off:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCVHpnixj88

Secondly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P52ilv_bS9E

Regarding names, I’ve posted this before. When my Grandfather came here from Italy at age 14, he changed his name to sound “American” and from what I’ve been told, forbade any language but English to be spoken in his house.

Those days are gone. This country has become a whorehouse run by diseased harlots with a Communist bent.

As for the celebrity names, I’ll add “Zooey” to the list. Sweet, sweet, Zooey.

[fieldmarshaldj]

So therefore you blame the employer rather than the parents practice of cultural apartheid for placing them at a disadvantage. Got it.

[Hoffer Rand]

And dangit, if my Momma called me "Dog Poop" and the Government wanted to call me "Humilis Vectigal Generans" (look it up), I'd probably settle on "Skyway Thunderbolt" as a reasonable compromise, and use it as outlined above.

Stormageddon, Lord of Darkness.

[ksen]

So therefore you blame the employer rather than the parents practice of cultural apartheid for placing them at a disadvantage. Got it.

If the decision between two qualified individuals is made simply on whether the hirer likes the name or not then yes. This isn't rocket science.

[fieldmarshaldj]

I saw that when it aired, funny stuff. I had an old Black teacher who had been around for the pre-1960s segregated system (this was in 1984). He was completely incomprehensible (one, he was hard to understand because of his age, and two, his Southern-fried ebonics) and teaching to a forced-integration class of mostly Whites whom were bused in from the suburbs. The principal had to move me out of his class because there was no way I could learn (he was teaching English, btw).

[fieldmarshaldj]

Still awaiting your reply to post #77.

[ksen]

Still awaiting your reply to post #77

There's not much to say to someone who believes that Kunta Kinte was fictional. :shrug:

[fieldmarshaldj]

Nice dodge. That you don’t know that Alex Haley was prone to, shall we say, embellishment (and plagiarism) is merely a convenient red herring. A cursory glance at your posting history indicates you’re anything but a Conservative. The fact you have no problem with cultural apartheid speaks volumes to your mentality.

“Are you not paying attention, people with their hat on backwards, pants down around the crack. Isn’t that a sign of something, or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up? Isn’t it a sign of something when she’s got her dress all the way up to the crack...and got all kinds of needles and things going through her body. What part of Africa did this come from? (laughter). We are not Africans. Those people are not Africans, they don’t know a damned thing about Africa. With names like Shaniqua, Shaligua, Mohammed and all that crap and all of them are in jail.” — Bill Cosby

[ksen]

They have done studies in America that show that if there are two equally qualified black applicants for a job, and one is named something like "Dayqyan Mfundo" and the other is named "Mike Jones", then "Mike Jones" is something like 5X more likely to get the job.

Who is "they" and do they also have links to those reports?

[campaignPete R-CT]

Cozi TV joins THIS movies with shows of old
Zooey interruptus of Fox ... our new heart-throb
Mila cast aside like a rag doll

Stunned America has stopped the study of tax code controversy
illiterate women searching tax books
did we lose our tuition credits,
they ask one another
in the canned vegetable aisle?
the FICA deduction really increased?

We’re the Beatnik crowd now
Freepers who in recent past
fretted the nation, ward by ward

our weary civic hearts have led us away
no longer riding on the merry-go-round,
we just had to let the nation go!

Kerouac and Ginsberg would know
we’ve chosen the better path
But where, where are the Beatnik chicks?