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Fiscal Cliff Deal Limps Across Finish Line in House
Roll Call ^ | 1/1/2013 | Daniel Newhauser

Posted on 01/01/2013 8:36:34 PM PST by GVnana

The Congress that convened two years ago under the war cries of the tea party is slowly coming to an end with a Champagne-less whimper on New Year’s Day 2013.

The House voted late Tuesday evening, in a rare holiday session, to pass a fiscal cliff bill brokered without the involvement of the GOP majority and with far less than half of their votes.

The bill (HR 8) was amended by the Senate in the early morning hours on an 89-8 vote, carrying language crafted over the holiday weekend by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.

The 257-167 roll call in the humbled House concluded close to 11 p.m., with 172 Democratic votes and only 85 Republicans, fewer of their own conference than GOP leaders hoped for perhaps, but more than enough to clear the necessary majority to send the legislation to President Barack Obama’s desk.

“Am I having a nightmare, or what?” Speaker John A. Boehner of Ohio could be heard saying on the House floor, perhaps in jest. Boehner voted for the measure. Majority Leader Eric Cantor of Virginia and Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy of California and Chief Deputy Whip Peter Roskam of Illinois all voted against it. Budget Chairman Paul D. Ryan, R-Wis., who has largely remained quiet during the debate over the last few weeks, voted for the legislation.


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I didn't march in the streets for this.
1 posted on 01/01/2013 8:36:40 PM PST by GVnana
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To: GVnana

Ryan is a jerk and let Biden walk all over him in the debates


2 posted on 01/01/2013 8:39:01 PM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: GVnana

WHO are the 85 Republicans we need to PRIMARY OUT of office?


3 posted on 01/01/2013 8:40:30 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: GVnana

i just called the RNC and let a message of complete disgust with their ineptitude and told them they should be ashamed of themselves for caving.


4 posted on 01/01/2013 8:41:20 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: indianrightwinger; Longbow1969
This is what you appeasers and go along to get along wimps got us.

Own it.

/johnny

5 posted on 01/01/2013 8:41:43 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: GVnana

Long past due, what a stupid fight over nothing.

Time to move to the debt limit fight.


6 posted on 01/01/2013 8:41:53 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism and whining about losing.)
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To: GVnana

Great news for the middle class. The Bush tax cuts were all expiring, but are now made permanent. I am admiring McConnell’s negotiating skills to get this done. AMT gets indexed, Death tax gets indexed, capital gains & Dividends at 15% rate permanently. All good for middle class.


7 posted on 01/01/2013 8:43:50 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: GVnana

The last time I saw a rout of this magnitude over the majority in the
House was when Reagan steamrolled Tip O’Neil and the Rats who
had the majority in the house.
Reagan did it by going directly to the people.
This time, it was a total collapse in leadership.
What a rout.


8 posted on 01/01/2013 8:44:42 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: sickoflibs

Time to move to the debt limit fight so “Boner” can “F” us again?


9 posted on 01/01/2013 8:44:56 PM PST by WellyP (question!)
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To: Democrat_media
Ryan is so stupid or so corrupted that he doesn't have enough sense to vote NO if just to keep up his image.

He sold out to his pal Boehner and the Washington establishment.

Sad. He is not even a caricature of his old self. He now is happy to dwell in the cess pool. Ryan's clock was cleaned by Biden. Guess now he thinks, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em."

10 posted on 01/01/2013 8:45:06 PM PST by Memphis Moe
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To: sickoflibs
Time to move to the debt limit fight.

We will lose that too.

11 posted on 01/01/2013 8:46:43 PM PST by Logical me
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To: GVnana
Here's a list of our ENEMIES and our COWARDS.

12 posted on 01/01/2013 8:47:00 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: GVnana
What happened to the Hastert rule?
13 posted on 01/01/2013 8:47:54 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: sickoflibs
Time to move to the debt limit fight.

Don't worry. Boner & Co. will roll over on that issue, too.

14 posted on 01/01/2013 8:47:54 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Memphis Moe
I would have shut that stupid smirking Biden up. I would have said what are you the Joker , all you do is laugh you smirking little marxist dictatorial peon, don't you get it that socialism doesn't work how dare you try to limit individual rights and increase government size you little sick tyrant, typical democrat

but Ryan just took it , what a dork

15 posted on 01/01/2013 8:48:18 PM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: All

Folks....

If you are still making excuses for voting GOP (like “if you vote 3d Party you help a Democrat win”)...you are not a Conservative

Making excuses for Liberal PhonyCons will not cut it anymore


16 posted on 01/01/2013 8:48:18 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: GVnana
“Am I having a nightmare, or what?” Speaker John A. Boehner of Ohio...

oh boo frickin' hoo.

17 posted on 01/01/2013 8:48:40 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Memphis Moe

Remember the old bumper sticker that could be seen on the back of a car or an RV driven by a retired couple that said something like “ WE ARE SPENDING OUR CHILDREN’S INHERITANCE”?
Well now we need a new one...
“ MY LIMITED INFORMATION VOTER CHILDREN’S INHERITANCE IS GOING TO THEIR HERO, 0BAMA!”


18 posted on 01/01/2013 8:49:52 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: SeminoleCounty

Bingo!


19 posted on 01/01/2013 8:50:36 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: sickoflibs

“Time to move to the debt limit fight.”

What do you expect Boner to do on that? I expect him to kiss Obama’s butt again after some unnecessary drama, just like he did on this and every other issue.


20 posted on 01/01/2013 8:51:01 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: entropy12

Yeah, and it screws the “rich”. Woo Hoo! /s

Permanent? Are you in high school? The GOP just made themselves the minority in 2014 and the Dems will raise away.

And not ONE spending cut. A true cut.

Stupid “deal” (like they didn’t know it was coming after setting it up last year?) made by stupid people.


21 posted on 01/01/2013 8:52:03 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: Democrat_media
Ryan is a jerk and let Biden walk all over him in the debates

You got that right! Even with his atrocious behavior, & smirking & laughing, Bite-Me still came out on top while Ryan looked scared & intimidated by Bite-Me. And now Ryan & the other RINO Repukes screw us again while voting to fold & capitulate once again, to that RAT bastard commie pig 0dumb0! As much as I hate 0dumb0, I wish we could put a conservative inside him and I would trade for him in an instant over any Repuke at this time. God forgive our country for having such gutless & lack of principles leadership.

22 posted on 01/01/2013 8:52:03 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: celtic gal

BUMP!


23 posted on 01/01/2013 8:53:09 PM PST by GVnana
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To: entropy12
You didn't even get a reach-around.

Wake up and smell the coffee. Nothing congress did today was good for America.

The GOP must go the way of the Whigs.

/johnny

24 posted on 01/01/2013 8:54:03 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You are correct. Let’s replace all the republicans with democraps /Sarc


25 posted on 01/01/2013 8:55:47 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: GVnana
“Am I having a nightmare, or what?” Speaker John A. Boehner of Ohio could be heard saying on the House floor

No John you ARE the nightmare.

26 posted on 01/01/2013 8:59:07 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Fledermaus

This bill as passed saved me a ton of money. I am retired and I am elated at the savings compared to if the Bush taxcuts were allowed to expire or extended on a temporary basis, as was done by Bush & his congress.


27 posted on 01/01/2013 8:59:14 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: Yosemitest

85. So many Rino Monkeys to chose from.
I’m hoping there are many credible citizen candidates who will step
forward. If they are articulate, credible and conservative, they will
be supported. If we can throw our support behind one in each district
the DC Astro-Turfers are no match for the Grassroots.


28 posted on 01/01/2013 9:01:21 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Yosemitest
WHO are the 85 Republicans we need to PRIMARY OUT of office?

Don't fool yourself, many republicans who voted against did so only to cover their ass to help reelection chances....at least 50 plus.

29 posted on 01/01/2013 9:01:45 PM PST by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: entropy12
This bill as passed saved me a ton of money.

That's all that matters then isn't it? For the record my family is getting whacked on this deal.

30 posted on 01/01/2013 9:02:02 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
for once on FR I'd like to see the hate directed at the ones responsible....THE DEMOCRAT PARTY...

but no......we ll go after the party which controls 1/3 of the govt and virtually none of the media....

go after the rats for once........destroy them....

31 posted on 01/01/2013 9:02:02 PM PST by cherry
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To: WellyP; mike_9958; Logical me; Fiji Hill; jospehm20; Perdogg
RE :”Time to move to the debt limit fight so “Boner” can “F” us again?”

Little reason to be optimist about that I admit,
but forcing Boner to take on hopeless stupid fights like this doesn't help matters any. None of you saw this coming?? Really?

All those taxes went up 24 hours ago automatically. This fight was not about raising taxes it was about voting to keep taxes the same, or really cutting them certainly as of Jan 1.

The vote NO strategy was doomed to failure. The Defeat of plan B was a win for Pelosi and O.

Speaking of drama, note that not one uber-super-duper-Tea party conservative will challenge Boner to be Speaker. None of them want his job, He protected them all by letting the Dems pass this bill.
This is the sad reality, yes, all those Rs in their safe R districts got to vote their symbolic 'nos'

I understand your frustration losing to O again, but this one was a loser from the start.

32 posted on 01/01/2013 9:03:05 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism and whining about losing.)
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To: entropy12

Sounds selfish. Doesn’t coincide with your profile.


33 posted on 01/01/2013 9:03:29 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: entropy12
Nope, (redacted), replace them with conservatives.

Something your little mind can't grasp.

/johnny

34 posted on 01/01/2013 9:03:56 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Yosemitest
Here's a list of our ENEMIES and our COWARDS.

My Congressman, Ed Royce, and Gary Miller, who used to be my Congressman, are among the enemies and the cowards. I sure hope they get primaried in 2014. Phil Liberatore ran a spirited primary race against Royce in 2010. If Liberatore runs next year, he has been handed an issue that might resonate with disaffected Tea Partiers, who are numerous in this district.

On the other hand, I'm proud to have worked in the past for Dana Rohrabacher and Tom McClintock, who stood tall.

35 posted on 01/01/2013 9:04:31 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: entropy12

You make good points — when I remind myself that Democrats don’t care who suffers as long as they’re in control.


36 posted on 01/01/2013 9:04:33 PM PST by GVnana
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To: ElkGroveDan

Deficit spending is a tax in advance. Do you recognize that?


37 posted on 01/01/2013 9:05:35 PM PST by impimp
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To: entropy12
Looking back, it is too bad Michele Bachmann was so reviled. She was one of the few, along with Alan West, who was screaming from the rooftops about the consequences of 0bamacare...but she was considered a light wt...and hearing that idiot son of Romney come out last week and say his dad didn't really want to be President, then why in hell did he bother to run? For all his faults...maybe ol Newtie wouldn't have been such a bad choice after all...

This country is so screwed..Can't wait for the Republican National Committee call and try to get donations...they will get an earful.

38 posted on 01/01/2013 9:05:44 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: Yosemitest

I wish they listed to with states and districts too.

I’d like to see how many of those “yea” GOP votes were from those that retired or loss and will not be back next session.


39 posted on 01/01/2013 9:05:52 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: cherry
Rats are going to be rats. They are communists, however you want to cut it.

But a party that comes on FR and says that if I don't vote for their liberal, I'm the sole cause of the downfall of western civilization, then caves on something simple like this? Forget collegial congeniality.

I'm done. Cow:Cabbage.

Own your failure.

Dems were going to push for it, and they did. GOP allowed it. They own it. You own it.

/johnny

40 posted on 01/01/2013 9:08:20 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cherry

Good post.

AND the news media = the democrat party

We’ve had a dictatorship in the U.S.A. with the news media as the dictators


41 posted on 01/01/2013 9:09:03 PM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: GVnana

And they all read it in detail and understood it before they voted?


42 posted on 01/01/2013 9:09:16 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: GVnana

To hell with the GOP. Bu-Bye.

My America is gone. I go down with every damn benefit accorded!

I have all that military crap behind me. FU Obama, I’m In, Can’t do shit. FU


43 posted on 01/01/2013 9:09:34 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: entropy12
Great news for the middle class. The Bush tax cuts were all expiring, but are now made permanent. I am admiring McConnell’s negotiating skills to get this done. AMT gets indexed, Death tax gets indexed, capital gains & Dividends at 15% rate permanently. All good for middle class....absolutely right - never again will Obama and the rest of the 'rats be able to use these as bargaining chips to push 'pubs around (although of course they'll push them around in other ways) - except that they couldn't stop raises in tax rates for the upper 1.5% of earners (which can be lowered again in the future) this doesn't seem like such a bad bill, for a temporary fix, at all....
44 posted on 01/01/2013 9:09:54 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: celtic gal

Michelle Bachmann is a patriot. She also has actually run a private business, as few politicians have.


45 posted on 01/01/2013 9:10:00 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: entropy12
Great news for the middle class. The Bush tax cuts were all expiring, but are now made permanent. I am admiring McConnell’s negotiating skills to get this done. AMT gets indexed, Death tax gets indexed, capital gains & Dividends at 15% rate permanently. All good for middle class....absolutely right - never again will Obama and the rest of the 'rats be able to use these as bargaining chips to push 'pubs around (although of course they'll push them around in other ways) - except that they couldn't stop raises in tax rates for the upper 1.5% of earners (which can be lowered again in the future) this doesn't seem like such a bad bill, for a temporary fix, at all....
46 posted on 01/01/2013 9:11:17 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Yosemitest

WHO are the 85 Republicans we need to PRIMARY OUT of office?


I hope the majority of those 151 Republicans who voted no tonight also vote no against Boehner as Speaker this coming Thursday.


47 posted on 01/01/2013 9:11:57 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Logical me

Exactly. Only a fool believes the GOP won’t cave again.


48 posted on 01/01/2013 9:13:15 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: entropy12

As well as a ton of new spending, and no cuts to departments that actually existed. The GOP gained nothing in this negotiation. In fact, they lost ground.


49 posted on 01/01/2013 9:13:15 PM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Congrats, you are one of the few who understands the subtlety of what McConnell has achieved.

When Bush signed the tax cuts, they were temporary. Which means the democraps can let them expire and not be accused of raising taxes. Now they are PERMANENT, which means if they try to increase them, IT WILL BE A TAX INCREASE transparent and obvious.


50 posted on 01/01/2013 9:14:59 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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