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Fiscal cliff in New Year's limbo: House Republicans are demanding more federal spending cuts
Newser / The Associated Press ^ | January 1, 2013 | David Espo and Alan Fram

Posted on 01/01/2013 2:50:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Emergency legislation to avoid the economy-threatening fiscal cliff ran into vehement New Year's Day opposition from House Republicans, casting doubt on the divided government's ability to prevent widespread tax increases and painful, across-the-board federal spending cuts.

"I do not support the bill. We are looking, though, for the best path forward," House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., declared after a closed-door meeting of his party's rank and file.

While Speaker John Boehner took no public position, an attempt to add spending cuts was all but certain before the leadership called for a final House vote on the measure that cleared the Senate hours earlier in a pre-dawn vote of 89-8...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: boehner; congress; ericcantor; fiscalcliff; gop; johnboehner; obama; oh; ohio; republicans; unemployment; va; virginia; welfare

1 posted on 01/01/2013 2:50:55 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Start with a TRILLION and work your way up.


2 posted on 01/01/2013 2:56:32 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hold out for way more cuts. Do not be intimidated by Obama. He is just the president. You have the power. USE IT! Tell the public “why”. They want spending reduced. Why don’t you?


3 posted on 01/01/2013 2:58:23 PM PST by Rapscallion (The good thing is that Obama lacks moderation and will go too far.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Again; the Fix is in....

A One-Party government, some with D's and some with R's, but nevertheless, they're all the same.

There is NO VOICE of the real people who are being screwed to pander for votes from Illegals, Banks, Lobbyists, Unions, and the inner-city tribal parasites. With those living off others at near-50% levels now, there is NO WAY that working folks, self-responsible folks, or those who have pride in paying their own way through life can EVER get back to the U.S. Constitution's intent, or having their earnings (and soon, their Savings) confiscated to buy votes and pay for the vote-buying of the past 10 years....

Buy guns, and buy ammo.....we're surely gonna need it soon.

4 posted on 01/01/2013 2:58:35 PM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More than none?


5 posted on 01/01/2013 3:01:14 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How dare those Republicans cut spending! Of all the nerve!


6 posted on 01/01/2013 3:02:52 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hey politicians. Gutless wonders that you are.

If Obama will not stop spending, cut every one of the 11 appropriations by 5 % and let him deal with that until he sees the light.

Do we the people have to come down there to the capitol and kick your soft political butts AGAIN?

7 posted on 01/01/2013 3:03:29 PM PST by Rapscallion (The good thing is that Obama lacks moderation and will go too far.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Okay, so the Senate waits until the last second to amend and pass original House legislation, and that makes it “emergency” legislation. Got it!


8 posted on 01/01/2013 3:06:38 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It appears that House conservatives have leadership by the short hairs. First break We the People have had in this debate yet.

Leadership knows they won’t get a bill passed without conservative support and they further know if they reach across the aisle to Dems the base will go into open revolt. Which would be the effective end of the Republican Party.


9 posted on 01/01/2013 3:07:37 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Rapscallion

We do...


10 posted on 01/01/2013 3:07:37 PM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm contacting my Senators and Representatives and suggesting CUTS in welfare and all other social programs. I do not believe that it is in the best interest of our nation to extend unemployment benefits yet again. We need to cull the rolls for all charitable assistance, leaving only the deserving needy and truly disabled. Please contact your Senators and Representatives and tell them that Americans do not need more debt. We are stumbling under the load.
11 posted on 01/01/2013 3:10:27 PM PST by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
The news media came up with this “fiscal cliff” bs to destroy the GOP.

There is no cliff. the media is wanting a raising of taxes that will only cover less than a week of government spending. this is their cliff. The media says if the GOP don't raise taxes on the rich then the country will go over a cliff. No bigger lie has ever been told over and over again to everyone in the country so that everyone is talking about this stupid cliff but no one knows what the cliff is only what the media says “ that the GOP saying no to taxes on the rich will put the country over a cliff” = pure bs lies. there is no deficit reduction at all in this stupid bill but an increase of 330 billion in spending

The U.S.A is a dictatorship and the news media are the dictators.

call GOP Congressmen in the House, tell them not to vote for this ridiculous Bill , nor any deal ,there is no cliff as that “fiscal cliff” is media lies to force them to agree to tax increases.

Congress switchboard number: (202) 224-3121

tell them to adjourn ,no vote , tell them “nuts”. the media, Obama, Pelosi want this bill passed. don't give it to them. and no a meteor will not hit the Earth as the media makes it seem like with this “fiscal cliff” bs
call tomorrow if busy or closed today:

Congress switchboard number: (202) 224-3121

12 posted on 01/01/2013 3:12:03 PM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Lol. They should have let it go over the cliff. At least, there was some cuts. Now they got nothing.

The R's have cut taxes, not Gov't.

13 posted on 01/01/2013 3:12:34 PM PST by Theoria
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One thing is clear.

The closer the representatives are to the people, the better their hearing is.

Getting rid of the 17th amendment might be a good way of reminding senators who they represent.


14 posted on 01/01/2013 3:19:31 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Center>

THE EMPEROR WINS!

THE AMERICAN TAX-PAYER LOSES!

15 posted on 01/01/2013 3:21:04 PM PST by henbane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Tonight, both sides will be chauffeured to meetings over steak and lobster to discuss how government might possibly cut spending. We're thoroughly through the looking glass folks.
16 posted on 01/01/2013 3:22:00 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Theoria

And no one in the media had the thought to ask what would this additional revenue be used for?


17 posted on 01/01/2013 3:22:30 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (You can't bring something to its knees that refuses to stand on its own)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The U.S. and world are in deep economic trouble, no matter what! The real questions are: For how long; is there an actual “end point” to all of this “mess”; and, is there no actual “end point”, ever, until the world, actually and officially, ends?


18 posted on 01/01/2013 3:26:59 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If this passes the House, everyone registered Republican should switch their voter registration to Independent. They are choosing to ignore and alienate us anyway. Maybe doing this en masse will help reinforce the message that we are tired of their crap and are looking for more serious representation.


19 posted on 01/01/2013 3:27:58 PM PST by voicereason (The RNC is the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I pity the GOP Rino Monkeys that vote for this bill.
I hope most of them can line up jobs with Trent Lott’s Lobbying Firm
and other k-street money changer companies, because many will not
survive walking the plank for Bonehead.


20 posted on 01/01/2013 3:29:07 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If this passes the House, everyone registered Republican should switch their voter registration to Independent. They are choosing to ignore and alienate us anyway. Maybe doing this en masse will help reinforce the message that we are tired of their crap and are looking for more serious representation.


21 posted on 01/01/2013 3:29:23 PM PST by voicereason (The RNC is the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: smoothsailing

The House would have to cut 330 billion right off the top,
just to remove the pork the senate added.


22 posted on 01/01/2013 3:30:49 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's all a game, a shell game. None of these people are for fixing what ails this Country, they're more concerned who gets the blame for the inevitable calamity we all know is coming.

Eff em all.

23 posted on 01/01/2013 3:36:14 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think, so long as were not going to cut spending, the tax rates on everybody SHOULD go up. We need to tax at the rate that were spending. Everybody needs to have skin in the game.

I’m retired and part of my income is SS. I would gladly take a 10% cut so long as every government expenditure was also cut by 10%. That would mean everything including defense, social programs and all government salaries etc. In the long run such a cut would be good for me...


24 posted on 01/01/2013 3:38:26 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: tennmountainman
The House would have to cut 330 billion right off the top, just to remove the pork the senate added.

Then cut another $1.2 trillion this year and every successive year just to not add PRINCIPLE to the national debt. Never mind pay down the national debt.

25 posted on 01/01/2013 3:40:41 PM PST by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: Democrat_media

“Congress switchboard number: (202) 224-3121”

All the mailboxes are full. What a surprise—NOT.


26 posted on 01/01/2013 3:40:54 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don't forget the Senate bill has $200 Billion in new spending for extending unemployment for another year.

We have spend 3/4 of a Trillion dollars since 2008.....paying people not to work.

Take that out of the bill, and then let it pass.


27 posted on 01/01/2013 3:52:39 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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28 posted on 01/01/2013 3:54:08 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Democrat_media

No ‘Fiscal Cliff’ Deal? 44% Blame GOP, 36% Obama

Most voters still want President Obama and Congress to avoid the “fiscal cliff” of big tax hikes and automatic across-the-board spending cuts scheduled to kick in next Tuesday, but fewer than ever think a deal is likely. Voters tend to blame congressional Republicans more than the president for the impasse.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/general_business/december_2012/no_fiscal_cliff_deal_44_blame_gop_36_obama

How can Dems control 2/3 of the government, but get less than half the blame?

Answer: a complicit socialist media presstitutes (like Administration Propaganda) runs cover for them.


29 posted on 01/01/2013 3:56:03 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: babygene
I think, so long as were not going to cut spending, the tax rates on everybody SHOULD go up. We need to tax at the rate that were spending. Everybody needs to have skin in the game.

well I agree everyone should have skin in the game. However you won't get much going after poor people that don't pay taxes now. It might be the right thing to do but it won't counteract the spending. We should starve the beast and REDUCE taxes. Otherwise there is zero pressure to cut spending.

Also - why worry about the debt? Those young people are voting for Obama in droves. Even my own children. We have attempted to teach many of them and work for the right thing to reduce spending and debt burden on future generations. But no one is listening to us. We are old and will die out. So these young people will have to deal with the mess.

30 posted on 01/01/2013 4:02:40 PM PST by plain talk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
cal cliff in New Year's limbo: House Republicans are demanding more federal spending cuts

About 84 times more, to be exact.
The current "deal" has 42 times more tax increases than spending cuts. Anyone who thought the "deal" discussions couldn't get any worse...

31 posted on 01/01/2013 4:10:19 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: smoothsailing

It’s NOT about cutting spending! It is only about WHO gets to dole out the $$ to their supporters and in what amounts. That is why The Republicans raised the debt ceiling. This allowed both sides to fund their supporters, with the promise of more to come after the Presidential election.

Where the GOP missed the boat was failing to understand that there are many more middle class and lower class Americans than there are upper middle and upper class working and business voters. By keeping the working class unemployed and on extended benefits while expanding benefits for the poor, Obama jumped beyond traditional party politics based upon party platforms and moved directly to the quid pro quo direct purchase of votes.

The pubbies have been trying to transfer payments through business growth with favors to industry by legislation. Obama cut out the middleman (Congress) and went factory direct. He has taken the giveaway game to a level the GOP cannot match. Too bad the GOP compromised their principles for a congressional seat.

Time for a huge midterm primary effort and then a new party for 2016.


32 posted on 01/01/2013 4:12:38 PM PST by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...casting doubt on the divided government's ability to prevent widespread tax increases and painful, across-the-board federal spending cuts.

It's always interesting how the skanks and scumbags at the Associated Press describe only "spending cuts" as "painful".

33 posted on 01/01/2013 4:15:48 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: USCG SimTech
Then cut another $1.2 trillion this year and every successive year just to not add PRINCIPLE to the national debt.

The principle was demolished long ago; it is no longer subject to adding or subtracting.
The principal, on the other hand, keeps increasing...

34 posted on 01/01/2013 4:24:55 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Leadership knows they won’t get a bill passed without conservative support...

Sure they will, with plenty of votes to spare.

I read a Reuters story yesterday that said the bill only needed some "moderate" Republicans to join the rats in the House for passage. The problem Boehner has is that he can't bring a bill to the floor for a vote and let it pass mostly by Democrat votes. That would show the party base that the rats can run roughshod over the GOP with barely a fight. Boehner and the Republicans would look like complete fools, and Boehner would be doomed as Speaker.

35 posted on 01/01/2013 4:26:29 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: TurboZamboni

” Voters tend to blame”

Blame = Credit if people understood what was going on...


36 posted on 01/01/2013 4:31:48 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene
I’m retired and part of my income is SS. I would gladly take a 10% cut so long as every government expenditure was also cut by 10%.

Not me. I want every last freaking dime I got coming to me after spending a lifetime working and having half of it confiscated and dumped down the government toilet for rat politicians to buy the votes of their moocher base. That social security check is my casino money.

37 posted on 01/01/2013 4:32:42 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Billyv
Don't Let THEM Immanentize the Eschaton!!!

38 posted on 01/01/2013 4:41:18 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Lancey Howard

“Not me.”

I understand the sentiment, but if I could pay a couple of hundred a month as my part to fix the system for my kids and grand kids I would be happy to do so....


39 posted on 01/01/2013 4:41:47 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

You would be far better off taking that $200 a month and accumulating gold coins to stash away for your grandchildren. Buy it off grid and tell nobody - - save what you can in a way the scumbag government and the Democrat moochers can’t get their filthy paws on it.


40 posted on 01/01/2013 4:50:09 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

“You would be far better off taking that $200 a month and accumulating gold coins to stash away for your grandchildren.”

I’ve got a lot of money Lancey. Fixing the system would be just as much for your grand children as mine...


41 posted on 01/01/2013 5:00:13 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

I appreciate your sentiments and your optimism. I really do.

But I have become cynical. Downright jaded. When, in 2008, the majority of American voters deliberately elected an African communist as President and Commander-in-Chief I figured the end was near. When the same growing moocher class re-elected that scumbag I knew it was all over. The parasites outnumber the hosts now, and America is dead. The Democrats have won.

It’s every man for himself now. Hunker down, stay below the radar, and take care of your family. But most of all, have some fun Personally, I’m having a blast! My Rottie puppy is driving me nuts, but sitting in my lawn chair and watching my chickens is strangley relaxing. For exercise I cut, split, and stack firewood for my woodstove. It’s a 2200 btu cast-iron job with a cooktop!

Spring is coming, and I want to expand the garden this year.

FRegards,
LH


42 posted on 01/01/2013 5:52:59 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: voicereason
Independent = RAT.
43 posted on 01/01/2013 6:34:16 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Lancey Howard

I don’t know. A bill as presently spoken about, which might include spending cuts to be re-sent to the Senate, would gain no support from the Dems. Let’s wait for the final bill and then we can judge.


44 posted on 01/01/2013 6:37:21 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Independent = RAT.

so what does a party of sellout Republicans equal? Pubbies should have drawn the line long ago....but we know how that turned out.

45 posted on 01/01/2013 7:07:33 PM PST by voicereason (The RNC is the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: voicereason
what does a party of sellout Republicans equal?

A target rich environment for primary challenges.

46 posted on 01/01/2013 7:13:51 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: plain talk

Why is that a and/or proposition?

Reduce spending AND get the freeloaders/’poor’ skin in the game by making they start to pay taxes. Cut off the gravy train to the brood mares and the lazy.

Cut the bullshit and DO IT. If you’re going to be cast as the devil, make it worth the ink.


47 posted on 01/01/2013 9:30:17 PM PST by i_robot73
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To: Lancey Howard

“When the same growing moocher class re-elected that scumbag I knew it was all over. The parasites outnumber the hosts now, and America is dead.”

Not true... the Hosts in a situation like this can cease being Hosts at any time they choose. THAT’S when the music dies...


48 posted on 01/01/2013 10:39:34 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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