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White House declares victory
politco ^ | 1/1/13 | DONOVAN SLACK

Posted on 01/01/2013 9:52:16 AM PST by Cheerio

The White House issued a "fact sheet" statement Tuesday declaring the fiscal cliff agreement a victory, though the House has yet to vote on the measure.

"At this make or break moment for the middle class, the President achieved a bipartisan solution that keeps income taxes low for the middle class and grows the economy," the statement says. "For the first time in 20 years, Congress will have acted on a bipartisan basis to vote for significant new revenue.

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"BiPartisan"? I know Boner will cave, but shouldn't the House amend and vote before the White Hut Clown declares victory?
1 posted on 01/01/2013 9:52:19 AM PST by Cheerio
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To: Cheerio

I’d be celebrating too if I were Obama.

He got everything he wanted.


2 posted on 01/01/2013 9:54:12 AM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Cheerio

** BASTARD SENATE REPUBLICANS **

Bipartisan solution, my rear.


3 posted on 01/01/2013 9:56:19 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Cheerio

Our continuing problem....strong enemies and weak friends.

Well, it could have been $100 in spending cuts for every $1 in tax increases and the results would have been the same....the tax increases would have been immediate and the spending cuts would never happen. S.O.P. for the Socialist Fascist Party.


4 posted on 01/01/2013 9:57:50 AM PST by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: Cheerio

Maybe I’m misinformed, but I thought there was a House of Rep. that had to pass it before it became law, or will it just become an EO if they vote against it?


5 posted on 01/01/2013 10:01:19 AM PST by nobamanomore
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To: Tzimisce

elections do matter. we lost big and are paying the price.


6 posted on 01/01/2013 10:01:33 AM PST by RitchieAprile (the obstreperous gentleman..)
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To: Cheerio; All
Boner will cave..he made that clear (caved back in 2011)...
both of our "party leaders" should have resigned their
position within the party long ago.

7 posted on 01/01/2013 10:03:56 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: nobamanomore
Maybe I’m misinformed, but I thought there was a House of Rep. that had to pass it before it became law, or will it just become an EO if they vote against it?

If the House does pass this tax class-warfare increase, it will be a White House victory - and an American defeat.

8 posted on 01/01/2013 10:04:08 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cheerio

“For the first time in 20 years, Congress will have acted on a bipartisan basis to vote for significant new revenue.”

Translation: “For the first time since we snookered George H.W. Bush, we have snookerd republicans into increasing taxes on somebody, anybody. And we will reap all the political benefits!”


9 posted on 01/01/2013 10:04:33 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: Cheerio

It looks like tribal and class warfare is going to work out very well for the Democrats in this country. That “united we stand” gig is a thing of the past in this country. The Me, Me, Me “american” has arrived.


11 posted on 01/01/2013 10:07:49 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: Tzimisce

0bama’s mission is to ensure irreversible debt. He’s doing a fine job of that.


12 posted on 01/01/2013 10:09:54 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Cheerio
White House Soros declares victory
13 posted on 01/01/2013 10:10:23 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Cheerio

Bonehead is too worried about keeping his power.
He could care less about the country.


14 posted on 01/01/2013 10:10:35 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: cotton1706
Translation: “For the first time since we snookered George H.W. Bush, we have snookerd republicans into increasing taxes on somebody, anybody.

If the GOP stands for higher taxes after taking a plege NOT to raise taxes, then I cannot figure out why they exist as a politcal party? Be gone, we will kick off the Conservative Party that WILL stand for something other than being a RATLite.
15 posted on 01/01/2013 10:10:48 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

here’s Paul Ryan’s opportunity to step up and lead.....with Rubio by his side.


16 posted on 01/01/2013 10:12:21 AM PST by GotMojo
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To: Cheerio

How does it grow the economy?


18 posted on 01/01/2013 10:13:47 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Cheerio
The campaign goes on...

Can anyone actually read this Senate "agreement"? I suspect there is a poison pill in it, a clause so outrageous that the Republicans in the House have to kill it. The deal collapses, we go over the cliff (what Obama wanted all along) and Republicans get the blame from now on for every economic ill that's inflicted on the public (and we all know there'll be plenty).

Then there'll be a two-year campaign to throw those right-wing obstructionists out of the House. Come January of 2014 the Dems control all three branches of gov't.

19 posted on 01/01/2013 10:14:34 AM PST by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: GotMojo
here’s Paul Ryan’s opportunity to step up and lead.....with Rubio by his side.

That's funny. You really think these cowards will do a damn thing?

21 posted on 01/01/2013 10:16:23 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (We have crossed the line from independence & liberty to dependency & servitude. We are doomed)
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To: nobamanomore; All
Maybe I’m misinformed, but I thought there was an House of
Representatives (bill) that had to pass it before it became law
Your correct...All Taxing / Spending Bills MUST ...
originate in "The People's House" of Representatives
it really should change its' name to "the Serf's...Servants'..Slaves' Chambers"..
and the Senate's to "the 'ol ButtCrack's Rubber Stamp"..
the truth of it all.

22 posted on 01/01/2013 10:19:11 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: Cheerio
If Boehner had any balls, he would just declare that the bill is DOA, and then sit back and watch all the idiots in DC freak out.
23 posted on 01/01/2013 10:21:19 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Soon the "invisible hand" will press the economic "reset" button.)
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To: ZOOKER; All
Then there'll be a two-year campaign to throw those right-wing obstructionists out of the House. Come January of 2014 the Dems control all three branches of gov't.
technically; Jan. 2015....

24 posted on 01/01/2013 10:22:32 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: Cheerio
This was all set up when the select committee failed to reach a consensus....Add to that the fact that Dems won the presidency and the senate....

And that's the way it works....Dems i8n the house will selectively pass it along with Republicans. There really is no choice.

25 posted on 01/01/2013 10:24:09 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Tzimisce
He got everything he wanted.

What makes it really embarrassing is that Barry put in his second string quarterback, Biden, to get it.

26 posted on 01/01/2013 10:24:35 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: Cowboy Bob
If Boehner had any balls
I think, that issue(s) had been settled long ago....
the Congressional GOP/Establishment has none.

27 posted on 01/01/2013 10:25:23 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: Pollster1
If the House does pass this tax class-warfare increase, it will be a White House victory - and an American defeat.

Very true! I agree 100%.

But, from a political perspective, if they don't pass it (which I think is what Obama really wants to see happen)millions of legitimate unemployed Americans will pay the price because this week is their last unemployment check.

Obama wants to see those legitimate unemployed Americans suffer so that he can blame Boehner and the Republican controlled House for it. Obama and the democrats are looking ahead to Nov 2014, not to a prosperous America.

John Boehner should have offered a bill to extend the emergency unemployment back in the late summer / early Fall and offsetting the cost with cuts in other places. This would have been put in Harry Reid's lap before the election and he would be the blame for the fate of the legitimately unemployed Americans without it having to be part of the bill being discussed today.

Harry Reid's actions could have been what would have helped the GOP win the Senate in 2012.

A bunch of us had called Boehner's office and other republicans back in sept/oct 2012 with this idea. As you can see, the calls were ignored.

Today it's in Boehner's and the GOP's lap.

28 posted on 01/01/2013 10:25:23 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: RitchieAprile

Absolutely....Members of the House can be twisted and turned....The Whitehouse and a dictator such as Obama controls the Dem Senate.


29 posted on 01/01/2013 10:27:05 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

The Republicans in the House could vote Present and let it pass with only Dem votes. That way the resulting recession is pinned only on the Dems and their isn’t a “Bipartisan” label.


30 posted on 01/01/2013 10:29:54 AM PST by jps098
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To: Cheerio
"Regressive" is "progressive," and "backward" is "forward,"--all in the world of the "dissemblers," the "trimmers," and those who practice "untruths" (see Jefferson quote below).

Thomas Jefferson once offered a wise bit of advice in a letter to young Peter Carr:

"Nothing is so mistaken as the supposition, that a person is to extricate himself from a difficulty, by intrigue, by chicanery, by dissimulation, by trimming, by an untruth, by an injustice. This increases the difficulties ten fold; and those who pursue these methods, get themselves so involved at length, that they can turn no way but their infamy becomes more exposed. It is of great importance to set a resolution, not to be shaken, never to tell an untruth. There is no vice so mean, so pitiful, so contemptible; and he who permits himself to tell a lie once, finds it much easier to do it a second and third time, till at length it becomes habitual; he tells lies without attending to it, and truths without the world’s believing him. This falsehood of the tongue leads to that of the heart, and in time depraves all its good dispositions." -- See "Letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785," in Thomas Jefferson: Writings (New York: The Library of America, 1984), pp. 814-815.

From "fast and furious" to Benghazi, from Obamacare to the so-called "fiscal cliff," do we not see examples of such "chicanery, by dissimulation, by trimming, by an untruth, by an injustice"?

The guises by which Americans are being deceived into surrendering their liberty grow more numerous every day. Truly, Jefferson summed it up well, "there is no vice so mean, so pitiful, so contemptible" as this kind of habitual deceit--especially when it is by an Administration elected to "preserve and protect" "the People's" Constitutional protections for liberty.

31 posted on 01/01/2013 10:32:12 AM PST by loveliberty2 ( -)
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To: Sacajaweau
The Whitehouse and a dictator such as Obama controls the Dem Senate.

Yet they still insist (as they have for the last 6 years) that the minority Party GOP controls everything and is the blame for all that has happened since 2006. Since there is no elected official in the GOP who is articulate and out there on a daily basis reminding the American people who really is in control, the American people see the "majority party" is republican and they will vote them out in 2014 so that poor Obama and the powerless democrats can finally save America from the republicans.

That is and has been the narrative for the last several years and a narrative that goes indisputed day after day after day.

32 posted on 01/01/2013 10:34:09 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: GotMojo

Rubio talks a good game but when the SHTF he hides under his desk along with all the other beltway GOP cowards. His strongly worded press release was right out of the McConnell loser playbook.


33 posted on 01/01/2013 10:34:57 AM PST by lodi90
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To: jps098
It won't pass with only Dem votes (minority) and that would leave Repubs as the ones pushing us over the cliff. And neither the Senate or House would approve THAT...so you're back to a stalemate.

And by the way...IMHO....voting present is irresponsible.

34 posted on 01/01/2013 10:35:25 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Cheerio

Freepers must make in excess of 450K a year. Obama was voted in on the platform of raising taxable income over 250K. I think we dodge a bullet so this is a HUGE WIN for GOP. Can anyone name a Negative on this deal for anyone under 450K taxable income? I only disappointed the spending cuts we delayed for another day.

The payroll and Obamacare tax was never on the table for discussion.


35 posted on 01/01/2013 10:37:42 AM PST by Orange1998 (DO NOT PRESS CTRL W)
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To: tsowellfan

“John Boehner should have offered a bill to extend the emergency unemployment back in the late summer / early Fall and offsetting the cost with cuts in other places. This would have been put in Harry Reid’s lap before the election and he would be the blame for the fate of the legitimately unemployed Americans without it having to be part of the bill being discussed today.”

Absolutely; the extended unemployment benefits only kept Obama in power. If people had to suffer real consequences for this economy/job market, Obama wouldn’t even have won Illinois.


36 posted on 01/01/2013 10:42:36 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Orange1998
Freepers must make in excess of 450K a year.

All of my potential customers do. If they don't buy, I'm out of business.

That's how that works.

/johnny

37 posted on 01/01/2013 10:44:20 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Cheerio

“Congress will have acted on a bipartisan basis to vote for significant new revenue.”

Seems like that statement alone should be enough to call them on the futile act of their revenue increase against the debt totals. How much “new” revenue does it actually generate after being implemented?


38 posted on 01/01/2013 10:45:07 AM PST by RockyMtnMan
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To: Cowboy Bob
"declare that the bill is DOA, and then sit back and watch all the idiots in DC freak out".

Wow! If no agreement, what about all the Americans making over 250K have you thought of them on "freak out".

39 posted on 01/01/2013 10:45:19 AM PST by Orange1998 (DO NOT PRESS CTRL W)
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To: Orange1998

I think we dodge a bullet so this is a HUGE WIN for GOP.


Absolutely. Why exactly is voting for the “Obama Tax Cuts” a huge win for the GOP? There is no fight in the beltway GOP. This just more of the same and the dims will control the narrative. The beltway GOP have learned nothing after 4 years opposing the kenyan. Nothing.


40 posted on 01/01/2013 10:45:28 AM PST by lodi90
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To: RitchieAprile

Amen. Getting our outcomes requires winning elections. Winning requires a broad coalition and an awesome messenger.


41 posted on 01/01/2013 10:47:22 AM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: Cheerio

Had only one repub Senator voted ‘yea’ it would have been declared ‘bipartisan’.


42 posted on 01/01/2013 10:48:59 AM PST by Vinnie (A)
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To: Tzimisce

I’ve been trying to leave messages on my congress critter and senators’ answering machines. No luck at their Washington offices but some success in the offices back home.

I’m congratulating them on their pay raise and asking them how they can sleep at night with their irresponsible spending.


43 posted on 01/01/2013 10:51:59 AM PST by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

If they buy from you it’s a cost of goods deductible. The tax is based on net profits. What am I missing here.


44 posted on 01/01/2013 10:56:37 AM PST by Orange1998 (DO NOT PRESS CTRL W)
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To: Tzimisce

The business elite that pays the way for GOP political campaigns in this country with big money to the Karl Rove PAC and other such SuperPAC’s want stability.

Stability means going along and getting along (passing cave-in legislation) while making noisy speeches to stir up the emotions of all us unwashed sinners in the grassroots.

The only principled politician of any kind I detect right now in DC is dare I say it, Rand Paul. He voted NO last night and I believe he was sincere in his NO.

There are some in the House who have principles but I would count them on my fingers.

The big money is on the people we elect who are expected to not rock the boat like you want.

Only a pure conservative, principled party not influenced by big money will stand in the way of anything.

Such a third party could not command a majority right now.

We are getting the shaft.


45 posted on 01/01/2013 10:58:34 AM PST by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: Cheerio

I remember reading about “THE ONE BIG BATTLE” theory in military history. It was supposedly the strategy that guided the Union generals in The Civil War before Grant. The idea was to have one big set-piece battle on some open plain that would decide the outcome of the war. I guess Lee realized you don’t have to fight that way. Eventually, Lincoln put Grant in charge who also realized you didn’t have to fight that way. The Republican leaders are still trying to fight with a strategy that the Democrats refuse to follow. They, the Democrats, see this as a continuous war, not one big battle to decide the issue. The Republican leaders need to realize this, too. This is just one battle in the war to win elections. It doesn’t have anything to do with proper governance of this country. That’s not the war goal. The Democrat’s war goal is to win elections. Figure it out or go back to sweeping floors.


46 posted on 01/01/2013 10:58:44 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: dragnet2

Sad, so true, we are no longer a nation with a two party system, we are ruled by elites, they could care less for those beneath their ivory towers, those who speak up will be knocked down or killed, division among them will not be tolerated, the Europeans elites have finally attained the United States of America under their socialist yoke, God help us all, a nation divided 50/50, yet the other half has no leadership willing to fight, so, they will come for the guns, then, the new world order, Papa Bush got the ball rolling, his son and Clinton helped, Odumba will finish the job, so will it be one world under allah, or one nation under Lucifer? Well, there is no difference, either one is tyranny, while the elites eat cake and attend cocktail parties with the press, I wonder if the Chinese dragon will set atop the thrown.


47 posted on 01/01/2013 11:00:46 AM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: Cheerio

Right out of the Soviet playbook.


48 posted on 01/01/2013 11:01:08 AM PST by VoiceOfBruck (#include <std.disclaimers>)
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To: RitchieAprile
Yes, we did lose big. This is a different Amerika now, and I'm washing my hands of it.
49 posted on 01/01/2013 11:02:55 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: Tzimisce

“We still control the f**king House!”

If by “we” you mean the GOPe, sure.
If by “we” you mean conservatives, not so sure.


50 posted on 01/01/2013 11:03:18 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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