both of our "party leaders" should have resigned their
position within the party long ago.
Posted on 01/01/2013 9:52:16 AM PST by Cheerio
The White House issued a "fact sheet" statement Tuesday declaring the fiscal cliff agreement a victory, though the House has yet to vote on the measure.
"At this make or break moment for the middle class, the President achieved a bipartisan solution that keeps income taxes low for the middle class and grows the economy," the statement says. "For the first time in 20 years, Congress will have acted on a bipartisan basis to vote for significant new revenue.
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I’d be celebrating too if I were Obama.
He got everything he wanted.
** BASTARD SENATE REPUBLICANS **
Bipartisan solution, my rear.
Our continuing problem....strong enemies and weak friends.
Well, it could have been $100 in spending cuts for every $1 in tax increases and the results would have been the same....the tax increases would have been immediate and the spending cuts would never happen. S.O.P. for the Socialist Fascist Party.
Maybe I’m misinformed, but I thought there was a House of Rep. that had to pass it before it became law, or will it just become an EO if they vote against it?
elections do matter. we lost big and are paying the price.
If the House does pass this tax class-warfare increase, it will be a White House victory - and an American defeat.
“For the first time in 20 years, Congress will have acted on a bipartisan basis to vote for significant new revenue.”
Translation: “For the first time since we snookered George H.W. Bush, we have snookerd republicans into increasing taxes on somebody, anybody. And we will reap all the political benefits!”
It looks like tribal and class warfare is going to work out very well for the Democrats in this country. That “united we stand” gig is a thing of the past in this country. The Me, Me, Me “american” has arrived.
0bama’s mission is to ensure irreversible debt. He’s doing a fine job of that.
Bonehead is too worried about keeping his power.
He could care less about the country.
here’s Paul Ryan’s opportunity to step up and lead.....with Rubio by his side.
How does it grow the economy?
Can anyone actually read this Senate "agreement"? I suspect there is a poison pill in it, a clause so outrageous that the Republicans in the House have to kill it. The deal collapses, we go over the cliff (what Obama wanted all along) and Republicans get the blame from now on for every economic ill that's inflicted on the public (and we all know there'll be plenty).
Then there'll be a two-year campaign to throw those right-wing obstructionists out of the House. Come January of 2014 the Dems control all three branches of gov't.
That's funny. You really think these cowards will do a damn thing?
And that's the way it works....Dems i8n the house will selectively pass it along with Republicans. There really is no choice.
What makes it really embarrassing is that Barry put in his second string quarterback, Biden, to get it.
Very true! I agree 100%.
But, from a political perspective, if they don't pass it (which I think is what Obama really wants to see happen)millions of legitimate unemployed Americans will pay the price because this week is their last unemployment check.
Obama wants to see those legitimate unemployed Americans suffer so that he can blame Boehner and the Republican controlled House for it. Obama and the democrats are looking ahead to Nov 2014, not to a prosperous America.
John Boehner should have offered a bill to extend the emergency unemployment back in the late summer / early Fall and offsetting the cost with cuts in other places. This would have been put in Harry Reid's lap before the election and he would be the blame for the fate of the legitimately unemployed Americans without it having to be part of the bill being discussed today.
Harry Reid's actions could have been what would have helped the GOP win the Senate in 2012.
A bunch of us had called Boehner's office and other republicans back in sept/oct 2012 with this idea. As you can see, the calls were ignored.
Today it's in Boehner's and the GOP's lap.
Absolutely....Members of the House can be twisted and turned....The Whitehouse and a dictator such as Obama controls the Dem Senate.
The Republicans in the House could vote Present and let it pass with only Dem votes. That way the resulting recession is pinned only on the Dems and their isn’t a “Bipartisan” label.
Thomas Jefferson once offered a wise bit of advice in a letter to young Peter Carr:
"Nothing is so mistaken as the supposition, that a person is to extricate himself from a difficulty, by intrigue, by chicanery, by dissimulation, by trimming, by an untruth, by an injustice. This increases the difficulties ten fold; and those who pursue these methods, get themselves so involved at length, that they can turn no way but their infamy becomes more exposed. It is of great importance to set a resolution, not to be shaken, never to tell an untruth. There is no vice so mean, so pitiful, so contemptible; and he who permits himself to tell a lie once, finds it much easier to do it a second and third time, till at length it becomes habitual; he tells lies without attending to it, and truths without the world’s believing him. This falsehood of the tongue leads to that of the heart, and in time depraves all its good dispositions." -- See "Letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785," in Thomas Jefferson: Writings (New York: The Library of America, 1984), pp. 814-815.
From "fast and furious" to Benghazi, from Obamacare to the so-called "fiscal cliff," do we not see examples of such "chicanery, by dissimulation, by trimming, by an untruth, by an injustice"?
The guises by which Americans are being deceived into surrendering their liberty grow more numerous every day. Truly, Jefferson summed it up well, "there is no vice so mean, so pitiful, so contemptible" as this kind of habitual deceit--especially when it is by an Administration elected to "preserve and protect" "the People's" Constitutional protections for liberty.
Yet they still insist (as they have for the last 6 years) that the minority Party GOP controls everything and is the blame for all that has happened since 2006. Since there is no elected official in the GOP who is articulate and out there on a daily basis reminding the American people who really is in control, the American people see the "majority party" is republican and they will vote them out in 2014 so that poor Obama and the powerless democrats can finally save America from the republicans.
That is and has been the narrative for the last several years and a narrative that goes indisputed day after day after day.
Rubio talks a good game but when the SHTF he hides under his desk along with all the other beltway GOP cowards. His strongly worded press release was right out of the McConnell loser playbook.
And by the way...IMHO....voting present is irresponsible.
Freepers must make in excess of 450K a year. Obama was voted in on the platform of raising taxable income over 250K. I think we dodge a bullet so this is a HUGE WIN for GOP. Can anyone name a Negative on this deal for anyone under 450K taxable income? I only disappointed the spending cuts we delayed for another day.
The payroll and Obamacare tax was never on the table for discussion.
“John Boehner should have offered a bill to extend the emergency unemployment back in the late summer / early Fall and offsetting the cost with cuts in other places. This would have been put in Harry Reid’s lap before the election and he would be the blame for the fate of the legitimately unemployed Americans without it having to be part of the bill being discussed today.”
Absolutely; the extended unemployment benefits only kept Obama in power. If people had to suffer real consequences for this economy/job market, Obama wouldn’t even have won Illinois.
All of my potential customers do. If they don't buy, I'm out of business.
That's how that works.
/johnny
“Congress will have acted on a bipartisan basis to vote for significant new revenue.”
Seems like that statement alone should be enough to call them on the futile act of their revenue increase against the debt totals. How much “new” revenue does it actually generate after being implemented?
Wow! If no agreement, what about all the Americans making over 250K have you thought of them on "freak out".
I think we dodge a bullet so this is a HUGE WIN for GOP.
Absolutely. Why exactly is voting for the “Obama Tax Cuts” a huge win for the GOP? There is no fight in the beltway GOP. This just more of the same and the dims will control the narrative. The beltway GOP have learned nothing after 4 years opposing the kenyan. Nothing.
Amen. Getting our outcomes requires winning elections. Winning requires a broad coalition and an awesome messenger.
Had only one repub Senator voted ‘yea’ it would have been declared ‘bipartisan’.
I’ve been trying to leave messages on my congress critter and senators’ answering machines. No luck at their Washington offices but some success in the offices back home.
I’m congratulating them on their pay raise and asking them how they can sleep at night with their irresponsible spending.
If they buy from you it’s a cost of goods deductible. The tax is based on net profits. What am I missing here.
The business elite that pays the way for GOP political campaigns in this country with big money to the Karl Rove PAC and other such SuperPAC’s want stability.
Stability means going along and getting along (passing cave-in legislation) while making noisy speeches to stir up the emotions of all us unwashed sinners in the grassroots.
The only principled politician of any kind I detect right now in DC is dare I say it, Rand Paul. He voted NO last night and I believe he was sincere in his NO.
There are some in the House who have principles but I would count them on my fingers.
The big money is on the people we elect who are expected to not rock the boat like you want.
Only a pure conservative, principled party not influenced by big money will stand in the way of anything.
Such a third party could not command a majority right now.
We are getting the shaft.
I remember reading about “THE ONE BIG BATTLE” theory in military history. It was supposedly the strategy that guided the Union generals in The Civil War before Grant. The idea was to have one big set-piece battle on some open plain that would decide the outcome of the war. I guess Lee realized you don’t have to fight that way. Eventually, Lincoln put Grant in charge who also realized you didn’t have to fight that way. The Republican leaders are still trying to fight with a strategy that the Democrats refuse to follow. They, the Democrats, see this as a continuous war, not one big battle to decide the issue. The Republican leaders need to realize this, too. This is just one battle in the war to win elections. It doesn’t have anything to do with proper governance of this country. That’s not the war goal. The Democrat’s war goal is to win elections. Figure it out or go back to sweeping floors.
Sad, so true, we are no longer a nation with a two party system, we are ruled by elites, they could care less for those beneath their ivory towers, those who speak up will be knocked down or killed, division among them will not be tolerated, the Europeans elites have finally attained the United States of America under their socialist yoke, God help us all, a nation divided 50/50, yet the other half has no leadership willing to fight, so, they will come for the guns, then, the new world order, Papa Bush got the ball rolling, his son and Clinton helped, Odumba will finish the job, so will it be one world under allah, or one nation under Lucifer? Well, there is no difference, either one is tyranny, while the elites eat cake and attend cocktail parties with the press, I wonder if the Chinese dragon will set atop the thrown.
Right out of the Soviet playbook.
“We still control the f**king House!”
If by “we” you mean the GOPe, sure.
If by “we” you mean conservatives, not so sure.
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