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To: Bernard

I’m an old payroll guy.

What about the 2% reduct in FICA withholding?

THAT affects waaaaaay more people than most anything.

Keep ear open for this as if they don’t renew it the hollering will be deafening.


113 posted on 12/30/2012 8:16:26 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Fishtalk
Great catch Fish.
Not only did it put SS into a near fiscal free fall dive but it also jeopardized the amount of SS each individual will collect. Less money paid in less money paid out.
It was another slick Axelrod move by the regime. When the time comes to restore the full funding,we will be seen as wanting to increase taxes on those who can't afford it.
All they do is strategize,conjure up stuff that will destroy us. While we try to make a living and do what is right for the country.
Just another issue we were beat up on because all they do on the left is engineer defeat after defeat for us at the expense of the country.
For them its all politics and political victories/losses. We are charged with begin the adults.
115 posted on 12/30/2012 8:23:03 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Fishtalk
The 6.2% FICA tax/contribution being reduced by 2% for the last few years is an arbitrary number selected by prior politicians to fund a program that is currently running a deficit.

Just like the income tax rates, the FICA tax/contribution needs a permanent change or we need to go back to the original rate. Having more temporary tax rate changes is a suicide path, sort of like poking yourself with a bullet hoping that repetition can overcome the slow rate of penetration.

120 posted on 12/30/2012 8:26:06 AM PST by Bernard (John Kerry as SOS will be the almost-perfect symbol of the Obama administration.)
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To: Fishtalk
What about the 2% reduct in FICA withholding? THAT affects waaaaaay more people than most anything. Keep ear open for this as if they don’t renew it the hollering will be deafening.

I have no doubt that the public will be hollering, but the payroll tax holiday for the past two years has increased our debt and deficit by close to two hundred billion dollars. It is just another stimulus package.

Source: CBO “Combined OASDI Trust Funds; January 2011 Baseline” 26 Jan 2011. Note: See “Primary Surplus” line (which is negative, indicating a deficit)

Matters are even worse than this chart shows. In December, Congress passed a Social Security tax reduction. Workers are temporarily paying 2 percentage points less, from 6.2 percent to 4.2 percent, in Social Security payroll taxes this calendar year. Since the government is making up the shortfall out of general revenues, CBO’s deficit projections for the trust funds do not include that. But CBO’s figures predict that the “payroll tax holiday” will cost the government’s general fund $85 billion in this fiscal year and $29 billion in fiscal year 2012 (which starts Oct.1, 2011.) Since every dollar of that will have to be borrowed, the combined effect of the ” tax holiday” and the annual deficits will amount to a $130 billion addition to the federal deficit in the current fiscal year, and $59 billion in fiscal 2012.

Social Security has passed a tipping point. For years it generated more revenue than it consumed, holding down the overall federal deficit and allowing Congress to spend more freely for other things. But those days are gone. Rather than lessening the federal deficit, Social Security has at last — as long predicted — become a drag on the government’s overall finances.

As recently as October, CBO was projecting that it would be 2016 before outlays regularly exceed revenues. But Social Security’s fiscal troubles are more severe than was thought, and the latest projections show the permanent deficits started several years ahead of earlier predictions.

Don’t be confused by the fact that the trust funds are projected to continue growing for several more years. That’s because Treasury must still credit interest payments to the funds on the borrowings from earlier years. But unless taxes are increased or other spending is cut severely, the government will have to borrow from the public to pay the interest that it owes to the trust funds.

And don’t be misled by those who say the system can pay full benefits until about 2037 without making any changes to the law. That’s true, but does not change the fact that Social Security taxes no longer cover those benefits. The government is now borrowing money to pay them, and will do so every year for the foreseeable future. And keep in mind, if nothing is done, when those trust funds are exhausted, benefits would have to be cut by 22 percent in 2037, and more each year after that, according to the most recent report of the system’s trustees. By 2084, the system will generate only enough revenue to pay for 75 percent of promised benefit levels.

Anyone who thinks that the payroll tax holiday should continue is a low information voter. It is pure and simple a scam. It is just another unfunded stimulus package that increases our debt and deficit.

127 posted on 12/30/2012 8:35:04 AM PST by kabar
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