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To: Neidermeyer

“Give him all the tax hikes he wants”

With due respect - Stupid idea. “do it by simply taking a 4 year vacation” throws away political power and gives the Dems a monopoly, a disgrace to all who Republicans and anyone who cares about our country.

We are stuck between two bad ideas. “blow it up” and lose or “throw in the towel” and lose.

there is only one smart way - the Pyrric Victory way. The President will get his victory. He has to. The President + the Democrat Senate plus the media mean that they can set certain terms and win the PR war.So the GOP will in the end have to give something and show Obama ‘won’ on the top tax rates. BUT ... the key is to extract the maximum amount of political advantage from it.

Let him have his rates on the rich, but for a price. Protect the maximum number of taxpayers and cut the most spending possible. That’s the goal. If a deal raises taxes on above $500k income only, and cuts spending by $2 trillion, its a deal that works.

Clinton won the PR way in the 1995/1996 budget battle, but GOP won on substance. The GOP needs to learn to win via ‘death by thousand cuts’ always demanding small advantages for each thing Obama wants.

What we SHOULD be doing is stop giving bad advice to Republicans and start saying the obvious: IT’S THE SPENDING.

“The repubs don’t represent me ,, haven’t since 1994.”
All the more reason for them not to take your bad advice to give it all to the Democrats.


10 posted on 12/29/2012 9:16:35 AM PST by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole AmericaÂ’s promise!)
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To: WOSG

start saying the obvious: IT’S THE SPENDING.
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Your ideas are great ,, I can come up with great ideas too ,, the problem is that you’re denying reality ,, we have Boehner... we have nobody to voice our ideas , Obama will win anyway ... we are onboard the Titanic and we’ve split a seam from stem to stern in areas where we can’t reach with mattresses and 4x4’s ... do you want this to be Obama’s economy or do you want our boys to be on TV agreeing to this little part and that little part so that in the end and for all time in the school books our children will read IT’S THE REPUBLICANS FAULT.


22 posted on 12/29/2012 10:16:49 AM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: WOSG
We are stuck between two bad ideas. “blow it up” and lose or “throw in the towel” and lose.

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I admire your "never surrender" attitude ... however it's long past the time when you should have realized that banging your head against the wall accomplishes nothing with the pathetic losers we have in the Republican Party ,, but don't worry , let THEM crash and burn , they don't represent us anyway.. and they are powerless (with their current makeup) to stop Obama anyway...

Two years is plenty of time to get a real conservative TEA party agenda vocalized and represented in the next midterms...they've already had a good start in 2010 and 2012..


26 posted on 12/29/2012 10:41:39 AM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: WOSG

HA. What ‘cuts’? The GOP hasn’t even fought to have the Senate pass a friggin’ BUDGET, so let’s all take the 1.5T/yr deficit as the NEW baseline...Wow, some leadership.

They all had 2 yrs. to work it out, put like everything else, punted to the last minute. Now, it’s scramble to make SOMETHING work that screws over the GOP base mostly, and then shrug the shoulders saying “We got the best deal we could get.”

Boy, I can’t wait for the mid-terms already


31 posted on 12/29/2012 11:02:08 AM PST by i_robot73
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