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Mentally Ill Kids Don't Just Come from Nowhere ^ | 12/21/2012 | M. Catherine Evans

Posted on 12/21/2012 5:42:08 PM PST by Sioux-san

The recent post "I am Adam Lanza's Mother" by a woman who posts at anarchistsoccermom and animatedly advertises herself wearing an "I love Che" t-shirt is as slick a piece of exploitative propaganda as anything we've seen in the last four years. Soon after the essay went viral mom blogger Liza Long appeared on CNN and the Today show calling for a national conversation on mental illness.

After the Newtown massacre the self-described author, musician, Classicist and single mother of four felt compelled to share her own story. Long's written account of life with an out of control child focuses solely on her son. She's brutally honest when it comes to his behavior but omits any mention of several other contributing factors for his dysfunction: family dynamics, Michael's early years, Dad's behavior before the divorce and afterwards, her own use or non-use of medications and why she would pump him with psychotropic drugs when the inexplicable cause of his violent outbursts confounded everyone...did this also include family counseling, spiritual guidance, an in-depth clinical look at Mom and Dad's behavior, or traumatic events passed from one generation to the next? If Ms. Long indeed fessed up to some family secrets why doesn't she address that in her poignant, gut wrenching depiction of Michael?

Is access to treatment the problem? During a December 19 press conference the President stated as much when he said, "We're going to need to work on making access to mental health care at least as easy as access to a gun." Media accounts of Klebold's, Harris', Hui Cho's, and Holmes' and Lanza's parents suggested they had more than enough financial resources to seek out the best treatment for their sons.

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To: Sioux-san

The father, Peter Lanza, has shed no light on his son or ex-wife. Also, there is nothing about why Peter Lanza divorced mother, Nancy Lanza. But, the real problem I have about Peter Lanza is that he is no where to be found. He is in hiding.

There is something about this guy, Peter Lanza, that caused his son Adam to hate him.

21 posted on 12/21/2012 6:49:36 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Sioux-san

Having seen only the video, the author strongly suggests that uncovering the mother’s faults will likely enable a therapist to solve the child’s problems. We know that is an irresponsible claim, not grounded in science. In addition, blaming the parent gives the therapist (and the general public) a scapegoat when the therapy fails.

As written in another post on this thread, several conditions that for decades had been blamed on mothers, have since been scientifically established to be primarily, or wholly, and matter of genetic constitution.

22 posted on 12/21/2012 6:56:30 PM PST by Marylander
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To: jonrick46

Peter Lanza is a wealthy man. Peter Lanza’s attorney probably advised Peter Lanza to keep his mouth shut.

23 posted on 12/21/2012 6:57:52 PM PST by informavoracious (God help us.)
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To: Marylander

Someone on another post had a good idea. Have a gun or guns that are only accessible by school officials using a biometric safe. Once a safe is opened it automatically calls the cops.

My suggestion would be to have an entrapment area like they have in the secure facilities. You enter a sealed area then you have to produce ID. You can get the ID person but can do no further damage. Cameras are set up o the initial entrance and inside the entrapment area. Easy to implement and requires no use of armed guards. The doors are not made of glass.

24 posted on 12/21/2012 7:03:12 PM PST by USAF80
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To: cripplecreek
I think the schools are creating a lot of them by teaching subjective reality.

They teach children in the health classes how to "think critically," which is another term for having the power to think for themselves without involving any significant person like their parents and their pastors.

This type of education minimally effects most children, but some have real problems with it, like Adam Lanza.

The are set adrift in life without a life raft and without being able to swim.

It is a very sophisticated form of brainwashing that actually creates psychopaths.

25 posted on 12/21/2012 7:05:26 PM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - V. Lenin)
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To: Sioux-san

I’m probably going to take some heat for this - but I am compelled to tell the truth...

There is no mental disorder that CAUSES a human being to take the life of another. On the other hand, one thing can (and I will admit it is possible that mental disorders can leave a person more susceptible to it) - and that is evil. Evil in the form of demonic influence.

The governor of Connecticut said it in a somewhat veiled way when he said evil visited this community today.”

Yes, there are diagnosable, and measurable chemical and physiological issues that cause a myriad of irrational thinking, learning and behavioral complications, and even intellectual deficiencies. But those are a distinct issue in contrast to the evil that causes one human to slaughter another.

26 posted on 12/21/2012 7:12:11 PM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: TheBattman

I agree with you.

27 posted on 12/21/2012 7:18:13 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Slyfox

They might tell them to “think critically” but they aren’t teaching them true critical thinking because critical thinking would interfere in the fantasy world they’re trying to teach them.

When I was in school, critical thinking meant asking the obvious questions. For instance when they say the planet’s temperature is above normal, I immediately ask “What is normal and how do we arrive at that answer?”

They might call it critical thinking but what they’re actually doing is teaching anti thinking. At least 50% of what they do is contradiction. When they claim to be pro choice or liberal, we know they’re neither.

28 posted on 12/21/2012 7:21:13 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TheBattman
Evil in the form of demonic influence.

A paranoid schizophrenic that murders someone because voices in their head told them to, or because the see the person they murdered threatening them with an non-existent weapon, is hearing and seeing those things because of a measurable chemical or structural disruption in the brain, most likely caused due to an inherited gene.

There's no reason to appeal to a supernatural explanation for something when there's a clear science-based explanation for something.

We don't need to come up with theories about demonic possession to explain mental illness or "evil" actions resulting from mental illness any more than we need theories about an evil dragon eating the sun to explain eclipses.

29 posted on 12/21/2012 7:22:39 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Hildy
Correct. There is evil in the world. People who always blame the parents have never experienced it first hand.
30 posted on 12/21/2012 7:26:47 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: informavoracious

I agree. Peter Lanza is protecting himself from the lawsuits. I am sure there will be a feeding frenzy by the lawyers over this tragedy. Things happen when kids like Adam Lanza drop through the cracks.

31 posted on 12/21/2012 7:26:47 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

No kidding. Once your life has been touched by one, a destructive, narcissistic mother stands out clearly.

32 posted on 12/21/2012 7:30:12 PM PST by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: fabian

Regarding the “absent father”, I too have questions about the vacancy. Your second sentence on “mental illness” is crazy...

33 posted on 12/21/2012 7:33:00 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Strategerist

Thank you. If mental illness were demonic possession, mere modern pharmaceuticals would be powerless to keep psychoses in check. On the other hand, there are people who do heinous deeds with mental clarity and full consent of the will. That is evil.

34 posted on 12/21/2012 8:11:29 PM PST by informavoracious (God help us.)
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To: Strategerist

“A lot of people are very emotionally (or religiously) resistant to the idea that something like genes or a medical condition can determine your behavior.”

I read today (NY Post article, I believe) where, in addition to the autism/Asperger’s problem, Adam Lanza had some kind of physical condition which prevented him from feeling pain (at least some types of pain).

I also recall that in high school, they kept an eye on him in the tech club because they were afraid he might burn himself with a soldering iron (and not be able to feel it). I also recall reading where his mother had problems with his trying to burn himself with a cigarette lighter (perhaps in a quest to find out “what a burn felt like”?).

It’s almost as if his nervous system wasn’t “internally wired” properly to the brain...

35 posted on 12/21/2012 8:17:01 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: wtc911; kabumpo; cripplecreek; sarah palin rocks; fabian; TheBattman; Marylander; PapaBear3625; ...

Holy Crike - I just found this timeline piece on the Sandyhook massacre - It looks like none of us have a clue what really happened.

36 posted on 12/21/2012 8:22:42 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Gene Eric

“Regarding the “absent father”, I too have questions about the vacancy.”

There really hasn’t been much revealed about Peter Lanza, but I recall reading that he had remarried to someone who worked at the same company (GE) in the position of the corporate librarian (if this is wrong, others please correct). Perhaps the breakup had as much to do with a budding office romance as it did with the younger son.

Although other reports mentioned that one of the reasons for the separation/divorce was due to disagreements about how to handle Adam. Perhaps the father saw the boy’s deterioration moreso than did the mother. Perhaps he had suggested commitment, vs. Nancy Lanza’s desire to protect the boy and keep him at home. Peter Lanza (and perhaps Ryan, also) knows, but as someone mentioned above, he’s probably been advised by his lawyers to keep quiet.

I’d be interested to know Peter Lanza’s attitudes towards guns and gun ownership, vis-a-vis those of his wife...

37 posted on 12/21/2012 8:29:12 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide

>> he’s probably been advised by his lawyers to keep quiet.

No doubt.

38 posted on 12/21/2012 8:37:49 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Hildy

I have heard some similar stories—some with adopted children from Russia or Romania. The very early neglect can breed a sociopath/psychopath. This is very sad, but I have seen enough to be terrified of adopting, a highly non-PC attitude.

39 posted on 12/21/2012 8:38:39 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Sioux-san
from the article:

"That's a shame. As a former group facilitator on the adolescent unit of an inpatient psychiatric/chemical dependency facility I witnessed many successes. In almost every case it was the parents willingness to open up about their own dysfunctional childhoods as well as their troubled children's that made the difference."


40 posted on 12/21/2012 8:46:05 PM PST by Albion Wilde (The only way to stop a man with a gun is with a gun. --Daniel Greenfield)
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