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To: chopperjc
The republicans are idiots and look like it. Why isn’t everyone asking for resignation?

What's your point? Did you want the Reps to pass this bill and destroy their brand? Or hurt small businesses that file individual returns and eliminate up to 700,000 jobs?

This is a good thing. Boehner and Obama need to negotiate in public. Why should the Reps in the House follow like docile sheep and not have any input into this process?

Boehner made a terrible mistake in 2010 by agreeing to the extension of the tax cuts for just another year instead of making them permanent. He squandered away any leverage he had. And the sequestration deal originated by the WH was a trap. Better to go off the cliff and then we can really start talking about real spending cuts and the long term fiscal problems that beset this country. Only a crisis will get the attention of Congress and the WH. Let the chips fall where they may.

42 posted on 12/20/2012 8:10:48 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Actually I would have preferred the grand bargain last year where we had a 10-1 spending revenue ratio on the table. Now we are looking at I don’t know what? The deal on the table is 1-1 and now I don’t think we can get that. The chips fall is an appropriate term. Since we are going to shove them over to the Dems. What happens now is we go over cliff then pass senate bill for 250k. It will only take 30 republicans and Dan Burton has said everyone will vote for it.

We also look like idiots doing it. A poll today 53% said republicans are too extreme. If your not in power all you can do is slow down the march to
The left. With a civil war going on how do you think we are going to get back in power? Plan b was a bad bill. It was a bad idea. Boehner is weak. The Tea Party has what 70 votes, maybe. Unless everyone is pulling in the same direction the left will kill us. That is the point. We left the grand bargain on the table las year because it was not ideologically perfect. We let the good be the enemy of the perfect and now we are getting hosed. A lot of this is our own fault. So you will excuse me if seeing where the chips fall sounds like a bad plan.

A strong unified party can do great things. A divided party will get run over. This will mean the 40 most liberal members of our party just became the ones with the most power.


43 posted on 12/20/2012 9:14:39 PM PST by chopperjc
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