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To: ResponseAbility

BLA-BLA, I posted his exact text in the last comment for everyone to read,

Now lets move on to something relevant like why my taxes are going up when the so called ‘tax increase’ bill was defeated by *real* conservatives to stop a tax increase.
Something stinks.


130 posted on 12/20/2012 7:00:01 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: sickoflibs

Well, you are too upset to talk to right now. And understandably so. This stinks to high heaven of collusion by both parties to do what they always do...get more money.

But please, don’t be so disrespectful of others by putting words in their mouths.


134 posted on 12/20/2012 7:06:25 PM PST by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: sickoflibs

=== freeper just told me in a comment that I am lucky-to make enough to pay taxes and should welcome a tax increase.===

I don’t think he used this verbiage - but it does indicate your misunderstanding.

You should welcome a profit, not a tax increase.


175 posted on 12/20/2012 9:00:21 PM PST by Principled
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To: sickoflibs
We are going back to the good old days of Clinton and the tax rates that gave us prosperity and balanced budgets. If Obama and the Dems think that economy was so much better, they should support the same Clinton-era taxes for everyone, not just the "rich."

And starting next year Obamacare's taxes start kicking in.

If the majority of the public wants a European style welfare state with all the benefits, they must be ready to pay European taxes. Mark Steyn wrote,

A few months ago, I dined with a (pardon my English) French intellectual who, apropos Mitt Romney's stump-speech warnings that we were on a one-way ticket to Continental-sized dependency, chortled to me, "Americans love Big Government as much as Europeans. The only difference is that Americans refuse to admit it."

My Gallic charmer is on to something. According to the most recent (2009) OECD statistics: Government expenditures per person in France, $18,866.00; in the United States, $19,266.00. That's adjusted for purchasing-power parity, and, yes, no comparison is perfect, but did you ever think the difference between America and the cheese-eating surrender monkeys would come down to quibbling over the fine print? In that sense, the federal debt might be better understood as an American Self-Delusion Index, measuring the ever-widening gap between the national mythology (a republic of limited government and self-reliant citizens) and the reality (a 21st century cradle-to-grave nanny state in which, as the Democrats' Convention boasted, "government is the only thing we do together.").

Generally speaking, functioning societies make good-faith efforts to raise what they spend, subject to fluctuations in economic fortune: Government spending in Australia is 33.1 percent of GDP, and tax revenues are 27.1 percent. Likewise, government spending in Norway is 46.4 percent, and revenues are 41 percent – a shortfall but in the ballpark. Government spending in the United States is 42.2 percent, but revenues are 24 percent – the widest spending/taxing gulf in any major economy.

So all the agonizing over our annual trillion-plus deficits overlooks the obvious solution: Given that we're spending like Norwegians, why don't we just pay Norwegian tax rates?

184 posted on 12/20/2012 9:45:34 PM PST by kabar
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