Skip to comments.Nancy Lanza feared son, Adam, was ‘getting worse’; ‘he was burning himself with a lighter’
Posted on 12/16/2012 12:53:37 PM PST by jimbo123
Less than a week before her son would launch his horrifying attack on Sandy Hook Elementary School, gun-loving mom Nancy Lanza knew "she was losing him" and that "he was getting worse."
Adam, who the coroner's office said Sunday shot Nancy Lanza, 54, several times in the head before unleashing a nightmarish attack that killed 20 schoolchildren and six others Friday, was prone to hurting himself, the drinking buddy said.
"Nancy told me he was burning himself with a lighter. In the ankles or arms or something," he recalled of a conversation they had about a year ago. "It was like he was trying to feel something."
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Not in Connecticut anyways. In many states you can probate them into the custody of a mhc facility for treatment if you can prove that he is a danger to himself or others. Unfortunately it wouldn’t have helped here but in other states it could have. I know a couple of people who were forced into treatment in Kansas recently. They spent 90 days in Larned.
I wonder how much you read can be believed? Not all troubled kids commit such crimes either; had them as students myself over the years. I’ve had gun vaults all my life, combination in my head. Would have a gun safe prevented this or maybe then he might have just made a pipe bomb or used gasoline. So many questions, no easy answers. Remember, more people are killed by lightning than mass shootings.
Preventive detention scares the HELL out of me. Who makes the call for committment, unless a crime has been committed.
So, the woman knew of her sons mental condition and did not secure her firearms?
I am curious what the mothers mental condition was.
The liberals are now starting to get mad that this shooting is becoming more of a discussion about mental illness and single moms coping with nutcase kids. Where is the so-called liberal compassion for the mentally ill and single moms? They’re mad that people are asking about how to get more help for the mentally ill?
The LE sure has been hinting enough that they seem to know what transpired.
So I think you’re right....there’s a back story here.
The Dirty Harry quote is old and tired.
Having said that, do you propose to allow mentally unstable people to walk around in public? I realize its good for you financially, but the harm to the rest of us isn’t worth the money you make for treating these nutjobs.
A former colleague of mine worked part time as a county coroner -- he wasn't a Forensic Pathologist, in fact he wasn't even even a Pathologist. I don't know how the Connecticut State Medical Examiner's system is set up. The doctor could be completely accurate about the description, but the only fact I'd be very confident of is that the children might or might not have been killed with a rifle. (Medical Examiners generally try to avoid TV cameras because anything they say can and will come back in court.)
I hear a report this morning on FNC that claimed he could not feel pain. It is possible I am wrong but I don’t think so.
And she gave him access to her weapons for a full year after this? That’s really asking for what happened here.
I heard on one of the news channels last night that he could not feel physical pain nor empathy.
Maybe it's just me, but a bar isn't the first place I'd go to look for mental health advice.
Laws are in place to allow it now in many states. The decisions are usually made after a seventy two hour evaluation. Most involuntary commitments never go past 90 days if they are probated into the custody of a mhc facility.The laws state that a person must be a danger to himself and to others. The preponderance of evidence must be on the individuals requesting institutionalization. This isn’t the 1950’s anymore, we know lots more about mental health now than we ever did. Usually the only thing that is done now a days is therapy and making sure the medicine prescribed is taken and in the proper doses.
It was implied by his actions...burning himself with a lighter. But I doubt the “no pain” conclusion is true. Kids do this stupid stuff all the time.
They don't get to bash legitimate gun ownership and they have to take responsibility for the sorry state of the mental health community that they created.
PS. Clearly many of the FR posters on this subject have not had to deal up close and personal with a mentally ill friend or family member or the sorry system within which the patient and their care givers must operate.
“too far. nutcases have rights that prevent society from placing them in an environment that can prevent them from hurting themselves or anyone else.”
Things could be nipped in the bud while a troubled child is young if there were not so much emphasis on making the mentally ill the “same” as a normal child.
If parents could afford to have their mentally ill children cared for at mental institutions where there was structure, protection, and no pressure for being different, we might have different outcomes from all of these massacres.
It’s a big problem. 90 days might help, however. I live in Florida, where you can only get 3 days, and my friend’s son went in and out for 3 days here, 3 days there, until he finally killed himself after his last 3 day committal.
I think a judge has to intervene after three days. But the hospitals don’t want to go through this and in any case the judges usually release them. So then they can go out and kill themselves or somebody else.
Individuals usually get the three day treatment after an “event”. The mission of the hospital over that period of time is “stabilization”, which often includes medication to the point of a catatonic state. The patient is sent home and then whatever happens, happens.
That is real similar to the liberal mindset that all countries should have nukes and equal fire power because that would be 'fair.' A symptom of another variety of mental illness.
Ive dealt with a kid like Adam Lanza before..I used to babysit a little boy(Who was 8 at the time) and his 11 year old adopted sister. The boy was incredibly bright, but severely mentally ill. His father was a schizophrenic who ended up killing himself so the boy was genetically prone to this behavior. He scared the hell out of me, would threaten to kill everyone in the neighborhood with a knife..held a knife at me once, I yelled at him to put it down and he did and started crying “What did I do?” he would tell me after he held a knife to me. I knew he wouldn’t stab me but it still scared me. His mother was an enabler, always made excuses for him. He would grab a knife from the house and chase neighborhood kids down the street..always threatening to kill himself and others. I told his mother either you get him help or I am calling CPS..she got him the help that he needed and put him on strong anti psychotic drugs to help him..I haven’t seen this family in a few years since the kids grew up and no longer needed a babysitter/tutor..but I talk to the girl who is now a senior in high school and from what she says her brother is doing very well
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