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1 posted on 12/15/2012 9:39:59 AM PST by Perdogg
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Why is psychiatry soooooo heavily dictated by FASHION? It has gotten to the point that people feel LEFT OUT if they arent’ the subject of some stupid diagnosis.

And then it runs in time; first it’s bipolar...everyone is bipolar....now it’s ASPERGER’S.

Shrinks are shamans of the 21-st century, and drugs are their bones and potions.


2 posted on 12/15/2012 9:46:57 AM PST by gaijin
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Asperger Syndrome + un-managed SSRIs = mass murder

3 posted on 12/15/2012 9:47:49 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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Identify all of these timebombs wherever they may be and secure them. I suggest a cranial implant that can be remotely activated to incapacitate them if they go rogue.

I am not kidding.


5 posted on 12/15/2012 9:57:00 AM PST by soycd
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Lot’s of people have Asberger’s, and they don’t go around shooting children.


6 posted on 12/15/2012 9:59:23 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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I knew that it was only a matter of time before we would hear that it was not his fault but society’s.

It never is anyone’s fault...only the victims.


7 posted on 12/15/2012 10:01:21 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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According to the liberals the shooter had nothing to do with this tragedy it was the GUNS that caused it so ban guns and all will be well. This is the same liberal logic that causes people like Mayor Bloomberg to ban 32 oz sodas as a sure fix for obesity, remove trans fats from restaurants to fix heart disease and require mercury laden CFL’s to save us from global warming. The liberal mentality is that things cause problems, but people always have an excuse for committing these heinous acts.


14 posted on 12/15/2012 10:05:44 AM PST by The Great RJ
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Let us stop making excuses for EVIL. Everyone has some form of mental illness. If you read the DSM-IV-TR you will find that everyone you know, including yourself could be diagnosed with one or more mental disorders.

This POS was not just mentally disturbed. He was spiritually disturbed. He lacked the thing that makes us all humans. He lacked a heart (in the spiritual sense of the word.)

There are evil people in this world. Let’s call them what they are and deal with it. No more excuses because they had a bad childhood or they have some vitamin deficiency or chemical imbalance. Those things cause problems, but it takes something extra to make a monster. It takes an evil soul.

Not every Nazi who gassed Jewish Children was suffering from a deprived childhood or vitamin deficiency. They killed the children because they had given themselves over to principalities and powers; the rulers of the darkness of this world and to spiritual wickedness in high places.

This cannot be explained naturally except that every one of us has within us a fallen spiritual nature and is ultimately capable of such evil if we surrender our souls to those evil spiritual powers.

We all have the capacity for evil. It is something we must wrestle against and if we surrender to it, there is no excuse simply because we had some chemical imbalance or bad childhood. You have to play the cards you are dealt in this world and admittedly for some it is easier to stay on the narrow road. But there is no legitimate excuse for leaving the road and fully embracing dark spiritual forces.

I am convinced that is the road this POS chose to travel. May he burn in Hell.


15 posted on 12/15/2012 10:06:28 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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Perhaps instead of one box on FFL 4473 asking are you a mental patient, yes or no, we could ask that folks be given a simple mental profile test.

I know it’s a can of worms and I am reluctant to have the gubermint decide who is worthy and who isnt, but one thing is becoming clear.
Most of the nipple heads involved in these shootings are young and mentally unbalanced.


17 posted on 12/15/2012 10:06:52 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Would now be an appropriate time to voice concern for the 85 people (apprx) that died yesterday in auto accidents on our nation’s highways?

..and the 85 the day before, and the day before that, and the day before that, and will die today, and tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, and the day after that, and...

Is it proper for me to say...cars are evil, cars kill people...?


25 posted on 12/15/2012 10:17:47 AM PST by moovova
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ZHer comment:

A few more facts in the form of ignored SCOTUS rulings:

No State shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefore. -Murdock v. Pennsylvania-

If the State converts a right into a privilege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right with impunity. -Shuttleworth v. City of Birmingham Ala.-

The court is to protect against any encroachment of Constitutionally secured rights. -Boyd v. U.S.-

Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no legislation which would abolish them. -Miranda v. Arizona-

An unconstitutional act is not a law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; affords no protection; it creates no office; it is in legal contemplation as though it had never been passed. -Norton v. Shelby County-

These rulings apply to each and every right set forth in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. All of them.


28 posted on 12/15/2012 10:22:24 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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The Libs puzzled and puzzled till their puzzlers were sore.

They hired more school psychologists, and then added more!

But all their Vain Actions were those of Blind Fools.

THE Only reason for failure: removing prayer and God from their schools!

29 posted on 12/15/2012 10:26:57 AM PST by Gasshog
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I just got off another thread where there’s a FReeper who believes the mother’s guns should have been taken away from her because her son was a loony. The kicker: That FReeper says she has a number of guns, and children.


33 posted on 12/15/2012 10:41:58 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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Last week, when the "Bill Clinton - Asperger's syndrome" topic came up, I googled around to figure out the differences between narcisism and autism/Asperger's and found people contrasting basically decent autistic/Asperger's folk with evil narcissists.

It's not so clear to me today that that that distinction holds up. Now I'm googling and finding another controversy about The Science of Evil, a book that relates autism to lack of empathy and to evil. It was attacked by autism advocates -- perhaps with good reason -- for overplaying its conclusions, but there may be a lot more to say about the topic.

37 posted on 12/15/2012 10:50:35 AM PST by x
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Trying to associate the autism spectrum to this kind of insane violence is nonsense. The two could not be farther apart. You might as well try to establish a causality to being left handed or blue-eyed.

What an ignorant pile of claptrap.


39 posted on 12/15/2012 10:56:59 AM PST by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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The so called facts in this “news story” do not add up.
The boy’s father worked for GE, in charge of taxes owed, in 2011 GE didn’t pay any. The weapons were reported to belong to his mother. A woman with a military style bushmaster .223 M4 carbine, a police model Glock and Sig Sauer, really? And he had the ID of a brother he had not seen in two years, on him.
All this in a State with strict gun control laws, and right after the re-election of the Man behind fast and furious.


44 posted on 12/15/2012 11:04:09 AM PST by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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Ok, if he did have asperger’s, here is my thought on that from someone with professional and personal experience with asperger’s. kids with it feel hurt deeply, but have trouble feeling empathy. How they are raised would be key to whether they would be loving, empathetic adults. With asperger’s they need to LEARN empathy like others learn mathematics.

These kids are often tortured by peers at schools. A divorce or other hard family issues can be devastating to them because they will internalize the hurt and not get over it as easily as others.

Many many many kids have asperger’s today. Parents need to do their best to develop deep attachments in them, and remove them from school settings if things are not going well. All children deserve lose and respect, even those with serious behavior problems.

Asperger’s kids can be very very difficult to raise. They can bring out strong heavy negative feelings in their parents. They can say and do things as children that are just horrible and uncaring, and the parents need to be adult and not respond to what the child is pooping out his mouth, out of normal anger that he doesn’t know how to get rid of, but to love him and explain t him why “we don’t act like that” because he won’t be intuitive like other kids.

Parenting is hard. Parenting an aspie is 10x harder.

Now we see how important it is for parents to have loving support while they raise such a child.

Everyone, if you see someone struggling with a tantruming older child, 6-17, please no longer say to her “that is the worst behaved kid I’ve ever seen!” Or “that boy just needs the belt!” All you do is make the poor mom feel like a failure and she will be harsher on a disabled person, possibly closing off his emotions.

Autism is an epidemic due to something in our environments. Maybe the multitude of infant vaccines. Who knows? And these highly functioning kids need to be loved and attached securely in order to learn empathy. They need to learn to love and be loved.

Help these parents. If you know someone, be a sounding board to them, allow them to offload their negative emotions once their kid is in bed for the night. Take them out and help them vent. Make them feel competent. Let them know how hard it is to parent someone with a behavior disorder.

If this post stops a few people from horribly prejudging parents dealing with an impossibly behaving child, and maybe helps some, I am grateful. We don’t need more monsters growing up.


46 posted on 12/15/2012 11:07:25 AM PST by Yaelle
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Where is God At Times Like These? A meditation in the wake of a violent atrocity [Prayer Ping]

We need to pray for everyone concerned, the shooter, the children, the adults who died trying to protect them and the parents of the dead.

54 posted on 12/15/2012 11:18:47 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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We long for an easy solution or answer to this....but there is none. We have over 300,000,000 people in this country. Statistics teach us that they aren’t all going to be the same. Some of them are going to be insane. Why did this guy kill kids? Why do some people cover themselves with their own feces? They are insane. Can we prevent this from happening again? Sure. Build a bulletproof bubble for every school kid. That would prevent them from being shot. But, some high-functioning insane person would figure out how to kill the kids with poison or fire or water. And who would pay for all those bulletproof bubbles? There would be Unintended Consequences.. Every decision we make and every action we take have a cost.
I used to argue for gun control. I don’t anymore. After Waco, I’m way more worried about Democrats than one insane individual. Bill Clinton and the Democrat controlled government planned and executed an operation using American military armored fighting vehicles against American citizens. Innocent children were killed in a government operation that they knew would be risky. We have more to fear from Democrats than from one insane individual.


59 posted on 12/15/2012 11:27:02 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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65 posted on 12/15/2012 12:02:51 PM PST by MtnMan101
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My nephew was diagnosed with a more severe condition of Aspbergers. He was very obsessed with guns. My brother-in-law (though a democrat, still believed in the 2nd Amendment—go figure), had to remove all the guns from his house after his son threatened to kill the family. He was institutionalized eventually, but I think this mental health issue does need to be examined. Not sure what to say about it, but...gun control is NOT the answer.


78 posted on 12/15/2012 12:52:55 PM PST by Thorliveshere
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