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To: montanajoe

Folks who support the 2nd Amendment need to come up with solid proposals to keep guns out of the hands of the crazies. If we don’t do that, the rest of the country is going to figure out ways to keep guns out of every ones hands...


except the crazies..

There is probably 100 laws already on the books that this guy broke.

One more would not have made him stop and think “wow.. 101 laws.. well there goes that idea. if was only 100.. well then I’d be set!”

Banning guns won’t work. I know we agree on that.

There is no solid way to keep guns out of the hands of crazy people. None.

So how do we fix this? The fact is we can’t.

But we can prevent it from happening by allowing citizens to be armed where ever they are.

This includes teachers.


73 posted on 12/14/2012 10:32:08 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: cableguymn

ditto what you said, cableguymn. Freedom has risks. That’s the way it is. You choose to be free because even though it causes grief sometimes, it’s better than the alternative.

People forget what life was like in countries that fell to communist tyranny. Millions died defenseless. You never were secure in your own home, you could be “disappeared” on a whim. You could be sent to the gulag for “reeducation,” or the psych ward for “treatment” of your dislike of tyranny. This is a place we cannot go.

So we begin with a dark premise, that even free people can be sometimes be bad people, and so we equip everyone with the means of self defense, including the schools. Like Adam Smith accepting the reality of economic self-interest, we liberate ourselves by accepting the reality that we must occasionally confront evil with lethal force, even as private citizens.

But the sympathetic images this tragedy will create, will tempt us to surrender our premise for a temporary political peace. But we cannot accept the premise of the left, that the state must own and control all the means of self defense. This is just the state asserting it’s ownership of you personally. This is slavery, and it is why every freeman must fight to the bitter end to hang on to his own power of protecting his own life.

So rather that accepting the left’s premise and scurrying to join them in further restricting access to means of self defense (you too could be considered a “crazy” just for not loving dear leader), this is precisely the time for us to push back and assert our own premise, that our own life has so much value that we have the right and deserve the the power to protect it, even if that involves the risk of occasional abuse, and even if it means requiring educators to be trained and skillful in the use of weapons to defend our children.

While that would be a bitter pill for the lefty educator class to swallow, now is the time to confront this. We have been too lax in the defense of our children, too willing to accept the left’s psychotic belief that man can evolve himself to a point where innocent human life will never be in danger, as long as we surrender all control of the means of self-protection to the government. That is truly insane. We don’t have to accept our own enslavement. We can make the argument for armed self-defense on first principles, and we can win, because we are right, and this is the time to make that stand.


79 posted on 12/14/2012 11:55:17 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: cableguymn
I'm not so sure that arming the left wing communist preaching group known as the Teachers Union is such a great idea. In effect, we would be creating well organized, shoulder to shoulder army that will do the bidding of the anti-american communist leaders that have infiltrated and run the government.

Requiring all children twelve years or older to complete a fire arm safety class and receiving a Fire Arms ID card on passing might be a better idea.

96 posted on 12/15/2012 6:50:01 AM PST by RavenLooneyToon (Tail gunner Joe was right.)
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