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To: Sherman Logan
“Totalitarian, fascist, statist, murderous, oppressive, kleptocratic, and lots of other negative adjectives. But not communist.

Excuse me...
That is precisely what makes China communist.

When all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating dictatorship by very definition makes China Communist.

31 posted on 12/10/2012 9:26:23 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla

Nope. There are numerous existing and possible varieties of totalitarianism. Communism refers to the variety that is ideologically focused primarily on enforcing human social and economic equality. In theory, of course, not practice.

Here’s the Wikipedia definition: “Communism (from Latin communis - common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production, as well as a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of this social order.”

China has in the last few decades drifted so far from this definition that IMO it no longer fits in the least.

I’m not sure what you mean by “a single and self-perpetuating dictatorship,” but if you mean China has an autocratic dictator, this is just no longer the case. They have a collective dictatorship by the Party leaders, but no single individual with the power of Stalin or Mao.

YMMV


33 posted on 12/10/2012 9:39:35 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Brought to you by one of the unpopular pale penis people.)
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To: DaveTesla

Excuse me...
That is precisely what makes China communist.

When all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating dictatorship by very definition makes China Communist.


You are correct, and the cheerleader for the Communist Chinese is patently wrong

The former Yugoslavia had many of the same “features” as the current Communist China....actually, Yugo. had more...there was a little more personal freedom and not as much government intrusion

However...the world, and, Yugoslavia, never argued when Yugo. was referred to as Communist

Communist China retains many aspects of Communism: Central Planning, Strict party membership rules (nomenclature), and the ever famous Politburo.

As one of my professors told me: “Some people think China is no longer Communist because they opened a few McDonals there”.


43 posted on 12/10/2012 10:13:12 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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