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The Birth of Hamas
In-Extremis | November 26 | Katechon

Posted on 11/26/2012 9:40:41 AM PST by Katechon

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1 posted on 11/26/2012 9:40:47 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon
My objective here is to frame the discussion about the future of Gaza.

Recently, Hamas lost its traditional political ally, the Assad regime, and relations with a principal weapons supplier, Iran, has soured.

Khaled Meshaal has openly backed his Sunni brethren in their jihad against the Assad regime. And Hamas is increasing coordination with Egypt. Those two things are putting Hamas at odds with Iran and Hezbollah, which have been critical financiers and weapons suppliers in the past.

The question for Hamas now is how well its new partners -- the Turkey of Erdoğan, the Qatar of Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, and the Egypt of Mohamed Morsi -- will fare, and whether their assets -- regional political weight, material resources and international legitimacy -- will prove more useful than those possessed by the Assad regime, Iran and Hezbollah.

Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Gaza and Muslim Brotherhood President Mohammed Morsi of Egypt

Hamas is now trying to ally with Cairo, Doha and Ankara ever more closely and to set itself clearly as the more active and relevant Palestinian party, more relevant than Fatah.

Its goal is probably to normalise economic conditions in the Gaza Strip, open up the Rafah crossing with Egypt and solidify relations with the Egyptian hinterland.

Regarding the longer-term Israel’s strategy toward the Palestinian movement: could the conflict result in an outcome in which Egypt, Israel and Hamas reached an understanding normalising the economic situation in Gaza and solidifying its links to Egypt -- while providing security assurances to Israel?

If such a deal could link Gaza ever more tightly to Egypt, it could also entrench the division between Gaza and the West Bank, and thus marginalize further Fatah.

By achieving a de facto deal with Hamas, Israel woud signal its preference for dealing with the Muslim Brotherhood front rather than with President Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah.

The central Palestinian address increasingly could be viewed as Gaza, and the central Palestinian player as Hamas.

Abbas is probably the most significant political casualty of the last weeks. He seems doomed either way: should he forego the U.N. General Assembly to seek an upgrade in status, he would be discredited; Or should he go to the U.N. General Assembly, then Israel will retaliate in ways that could only further damage the Palestinian National Authority’s economic situation, thereby accelerating the very process that is weakening Abbas and strengthening Hamas.

Could this be viewed as the last chapter of ex-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s unilateral disengagement plan-- with the Israeli government closing Israel’s borders with Gaza forever and re-opening Rafah? That would de facto make Gaza part of Egypt. And since Hamas belongs to the Brotherhood, Morsi and Hamas have shared interests in Sunni islamic rule...

Former Israel Defense Forces (IDF) Major General: Israel should end Gaza blockade and recognize Hamas’ government in return for cessation of rocket fire (source)

The eventual reintegration of Gaza into Egypt is probably what former head of the National Security Council Giora Eiland had in mind when he urged Israel to treat Gaza as a Hamas-dominated state, lifting the sea blockade in exchange for a long-term ceasefire. Eiland argued that such an agreement should be accompanied by Egyptian guarantees – maintaining the peace and preventing the entry of weapons to Gaza – and would allow European Union member states to send dinghies to Gaza’s port to ensure that Hamas has something to lose were it to breach the ceasefire. The re-integration of Gaza into Egypt also cohere with Ehud Yaari's speculation: "How to End the War in Gaza: What an Egypt-Brokered Cease-Fire Should Look Like."
Avigdor Lieberman, the current Israeli Minister of Foreign Affairs and Deputy Prime Minister of Israel, also came out in support of “completing the Gaza disengagement," as early as 2010.

2 posted on 11/26/2012 10:41:03 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon
MAP OF GAZA


3 posted on 11/26/2012 11:16:48 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

http://www.sikhtimes.com/bios_032404a.html

...Sheikh Yassin was set free by no less than that law-and-order right-wing Likudist Benjamin Netanyahu when he was Prime Minister of Israel. King Hussain wasn’t a ‘broker’ between two sides. Two Israeli Mossad secret agents had tried to murder a Hamas official in Amman, the capital of an Arab nation which had a full peace agreement with Israel. They had injected the Hamas man with poison and the late King Hussain called the U.S. President in a fury and threatened to put the captured Mossad men on trial if he wasn’t given the antidote to the poison and if Yassin wasn’t released.

Netanyahu immediately gave in. Yassin was freed and the Mossad lads went safely home to Israel. So the ‘head of the snake’ was let loose by Israel itself, courtesy of the Israeli Prime Minister - a chapter in the narrative of history which was conveniently forgotten yesterday...


4 posted on 11/26/2012 12:36:28 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto
Many thanks for the link.

Yes, it coheres with what I've read. This dude -- Khaled Mashal -- was the target of the Mossad agents:

And you know what's funny?

He said that of Prime Minister Netanyahu on the sixth day of the November 2012 conflict:

"now he’s threatening a ground operation. He can launch it, but he knows it will have a price, and Netanyahu knows it will be fatal for him; he will lose the election and lose his place in Israeli politics. That’s why he’s hesitating and why he’s asking the entire world to pressure Egypt and Turkey to pressure Hamas."

[I've read however that Bib refused first to provide the antidote of the poison, and that it took Bill Clinton to insist upon it!!]

5 posted on 11/26/2012 12:47:54 PM PST by Katechon
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To: jjotto
"the head of the snake"

-- I had this in my files...


6 posted on 11/26/2012 12:51:00 PM PST by Katechon
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To: jjotto
Can you guys guess who's the snake-head on the right side of the pix?

I'm beginning to map the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD. Man, that is HUGE!! I will need help.

It could be awesome to work on that with a bunch of Freepers.

7 posted on 11/26/2012 1:02:14 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon; Fred Nerks
I'm beginning to map the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD. Man, that is HUGE!! I will need help. It could be awesome to work on that with a bunch of Freepers.

See the work of FRED NERKS, much of it here:

Obama, the African Colonial

8 posted on 11/28/2012 9:32:11 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: thouworm

!


9 posted on 11/28/2012 9:50:22 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)
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To: thouworm; Katechon

Most of the material on the African Colonial thread deals with communist and/or muslim members of the black community in the US.

So, who IS the man shown on the right of the pix in #7?


10 posted on 11/28/2012 11:49:53 AM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks

Civilization jihad:

Andrew McCarthy
http://pjmedia.com/andrewmccarthy/2012/08/09/our-government-and-the-muslim-brotherhood-my-speech-in-washington/


11 posted on 11/28/2012 12:22:48 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: thouworm
That's a very important piece of work, needs to be saved to harddrive and maybe printed out in it's entirety if this is going to be a serious research thread. You know my interest. I got this far, will read the remainder later:

That is the sharia system. As interpreted by many of Islam’s most influential thinkers — including organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood and academics like the faculty of ancient al-Azhar University in Cairo — classical sharia rejects basic principles of American constitutional democracy.

Got that? It was at al-Azhar that Malcolm X spent something like 18 weeks being instructed in islam before he was allowed to make the hajj in 1964. And it was at al-Azhar that the POTUS made his first overseas speech in 2009.

12 posted on 11/28/2012 1:33:11 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: thouworm

Obama Hosted By al Azhar Islamic University

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXXgGtMIpok

Uploaded by TruthRMe on Jul 10, 2009

Shiekh Tantawi of al Azhar Islamic University has consistently ruled that killing Jewish civilians, including women and children does NOT violate the Koran. Many would say only a Muslim who hates Jews could feel at home at al Azhar.


13 posted on 11/28/2012 1:45:12 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: thouworm

http://www.coreis.it/Testi/500_MUSLIMS.pdf

THE MOST IMPORTANT 500 MUSLIMS (pdf, good resource)

TANTAWI IS NUMBER 8 ON THE ‘TOP FIFTY’:

THE TOP 50
=
1. His Majesty King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud, King of Saudi
Arabia, Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques

2. His Eminence Grand Ayatollah Hajj Sayyid Ali Khamenei,
Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran

3. His Majesty King Mohammed VI, King of Morocco

4. His Majesty King Abdullah II bin Al Hussein, King of the
Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan

5. His Excellency Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Prime Minister of the
Republic of Turkey

6. His Majesty Sultan Qaboos bin Sa’id al Sa’id, Sultan of Oman

7. His Eminence Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Ali Hussein Sistani, Marja
of the Hawza, Najaf

8. His Eminence Sheikh Al Azhar Dr Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi,
Grand Sheikh of the Al Azhar University, Grand Imam of Al
Azhar Mosque

9. etc...through to 50.


14 posted on 11/28/2012 2:00:54 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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the al azhar mosque was in Cairo during the time of Napoleon, it was supposedly established over a thousand years ago, they call it a university...it's simply a mosque that teaches sunni islam. That's the brand of the cult that Malcolm X brought to the US to convert the blacks and the congregation of the NOI. The same brand of the cult that the POTUS praises in the video.

15 posted on 11/28/2012 2:37:29 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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for the record:

WHO IS WHO IN EGYPT’S MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/whos-who-in-the-muslim-brotherhood


16 posted on 11/28/2012 4:31:50 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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In the early years of the 20th Century the Ikhwan (brotherhood) movement began to emerge among the beduin. The Ikhwan movement spread Wahhabi Islam among the nomads. Stressing the same strict adherence to religious law that Muhammad ibn Abd al Wahhab had preached, Ikhwan beduin abandoned their traditional way of life in the desert and move to an agricultural settlement called a hijra (pl., hujar). The word hijra was related to the term for the Prophet's emigration from Mecca to Medina in 622, conveying the sense that one who settles in a hijra moves from a place of unbelief to a place of belief. By moving to the hijra the Ikhwan intended to take up a new way of life and dedicate themselves to enforcing a rigid Islamic orthodoxy. Once in the hijra the Ikhwan became extremely militant in enforcing upon themselves what they believed to be correct sunna (custom) of the Prophet, enjoining public prayer, mosque attendance, and gender segregation and condemning music, smoking, alcohol, and technology unknown at the time of the Prophet. They attacked those who refused to conform to Wahhabi interpretations of correct Islamic practice and tried to convert Muslims by force to their version of Wahhabism.

SOURCE

17 posted on 11/28/2012 5:02:19 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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Hamas Growth In Gaza.The presence of the Ikhwan in mid-twentieth century Gaza foreshadowed the conception of Hamas.

TRACKING TERRORISM

18 posted on 11/28/2012 6:40:22 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks
Many thanks for that link. I've begun mapping the MB as well.

I'm not far, but I've completed its genesis, its birth. See here.

19 posted on 11/29/2012 10:27:01 PM PST by Katechon
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To: thouworm

thank you !!


20 posted on 11/29/2012 10:28:38 PM PST by Katechon
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