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TriHealth fires 150 employees for not getting flu shots: Co. offered shots for free (Cincinnati)
WLWT-TV ^ | November 22, 2012

Posted on 11/24/2012 1:04:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

CINCINNATI — One of Cincinnati’s largest employers fired approximately 150 employees Wednesday for failing to get a required flu shot.

TriHealth offered all of its 10,800 employees free flu shots. Employees had a month to get the flu shot. The deadline was Nov. 16. Employees who did not get the shot were terminated Wednesday, a company spokesperson said...

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To: Drill Thrawl
So I guess “My body My Choice” only extends to baby killing.

Funny how that works...

51 posted on 11/24/2012 2:26:22 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: MV=PY; 2ndDivisionVet

Healthcare workers are well aware of the special requirements their field has. They know its a requirement.


52 posted on 11/24/2012 2:27:23 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: TigersEye

Same here...vitamin d3, no flu. Ever. This is ALL about money and control.


53 posted on 11/24/2012 2:27:42 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: snowtigger
There are no miracle cures:

Rogue virus in the vaccine / Early polio vaccine harbored virus now feared to cause cancer in humans

Monkeys, viruses, and vaccines

These are only 2 of many articles about the link.

54 posted on 11/24/2012 2:29:46 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: driftdiver

If you KNOW it is a requirement going in, as with the military; fine. But springing it on people after they have been employed five, ten, twenty-five years; then only allowing them a short time to find other employment in this economic climate is unforgivable.


55 posted on 11/24/2012 2:30:28 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: I cannot think of a name

One of Cincinnati’s largest employers fired approximately 150 employees Wednesday for failing to get a required flu shot.

150 idiots. The military requires every person to get them or get kicked out. What makes these jerks so special. I am so glad that they fired them. This is GREAT news!!!!!


56 posted on 11/24/2012 2:30:48 PM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: MV=PY
When you enter an agreement with a company or person, you are simply making laws that bind the two parties. It is your choice to enter into the agreement or not.

I felt the same way when I wanted my female employees to have sex with me, as a condition of their employment.

57 posted on 11/24/2012 2:32:27 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: who knows what evil?

I take 10k ius of Vit. D per day but I stopped getting the flu and colds long before I started that. I have herbs that I can kill either one of those infections with immediately.


58 posted on 11/24/2012 2:34:16 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: napscoordinator

150 people who are more scared of needles than losing their job. In 1918, Influenza killed 1% of the world’s population. I want all the advantages I can get.


59 posted on 11/24/2012 2:38:00 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In 1918, 27% of the world’s population contracted the Spanish Flu. 3% of the world’s population, or 50 million people, died from it. Life ground to a halt. The economy stalled to a virtual standstill. Healthcare providers were among the hardest hit, as well as among the disease’s most prolific vectors. That was the result of pandemic when rail and ship were the fastest forms of transportation.

Now, extrapolate that forward to 2012, with ubiquitous air travel connecting all parts of the globe, and a much larger population, concentrated in much larger cities. A new pandemic would spread faster, and could potentially kill hundreds of millions, or even billions of people.

Unlike in 1918, such a pandemic might not just emerge from random mutation, but might be intentionally created as a terrorist weapon. Given the potentially devastating consequences, it is not unreasonable to make a flu vaccine a requirement for healthcare professionals, just like it is not unreasonable to make it a requirement of military service.


60 posted on 11/24/2012 2:39:50 PM PST by LouD
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

LOL!

Did they sign the agreement?


61 posted on 11/24/2012 2:40:13 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it)
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To: TigersEye

I use eucalyptus oil, as well...I can’t remember the last time I had so much as a cold, and I live in New ‘Red as they come’ England.


62 posted on 11/24/2012 2:42:02 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In Colorado it’s now state law. All healthcare workers will get the flu vac or have their privileges suspended during flu season the only exemption is a documented allergic reaction. While I’m first in line to get the flu vacc every year (had Hong Kong flu as teenager never want to be that sick again) the libertarian side of me made me want to challenge the system. Unfortunately I need to put the kids thru college..... But one more reason I’m out of the doctoring business as soon as the youngest graduates. 2 1/2 yrs but who is counting?


63 posted on 11/24/2012 2:43:27 PM PST by Mom MD (T he country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: LouD
A new pandemic would spread faster, and could potentially kill hundreds of millions, or even billions of people.

I've seen those movies, too...

64 posted on 11/24/2012 2:44:43 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: longfellowsmuse

BTW - has anyone noticed the article does not mention anything about those fired being healthcare providers. They are mentioned as “employees”,,could be janitors and secretaries,,who knows? Also NOT MENTIONED is any link to any piece of literature showing that healthcare workers who do NOT get a vaccine somehow cause a significant health issue or have caused a significant issue to patients. ...where is that proof? Unbelievable what some people will accept to have a job. Guess if I’m the employer, I own your aZZ, LITERALLY and physically. It’s NOT right.


65 posted on 11/24/2012 2:47:41 PM PST by austinaero
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To: Mom MD

Just for grins; I have checked under ‘career opportunities’ at the websites of hospitals around the country...not ONE mentions that a flu shot is a condition of employment. Shouldn’t potential employees be made aware of that before the application process begins?


66 posted on 11/24/2012 2:47:53 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: longfellowsmuse
Thank you for bringing rational thought to this overly emotionalized and anecdotally distorted topic.

I hadn't had a flu shot in years but have changed careers which leaves me more exposed. I got one this year.

I've never been sick when I've gotten them but I've also not had the flu in decades. *knock wood*

67 posted on 11/24/2012 2:49:12 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: LouD

Given that Baxter, a flu vaccine manufacturer, was caught ‘accidentally’ putting the live bird flu virus IN the vaccines for bird flu it would seem your logic might be a bit off? Plus, most manufacturers are now moving vaccine lines to China and India. China would never adulterate any of the consumer goods it sells. Never.


68 posted on 11/24/2012 2:50:12 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I had flu shots every year in the military. Got the flu the week after every year as well.

Never again.


69 posted on 11/24/2012 2:53:44 PM PST by Professional Engineer (So long and thanks for all the fish.)
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To: driftdiver
Healthcare workers are well aware of the special requirements their field has. They know its a requirement.

Exactly. In addition to influenza shots, it is also advisable if not required by many hospitals and clinics that healthcare workers get vaccinated for Hepatitis, Measles, Mumps, and Rubella, Varicella, TB, Pertussis, Typhoid Fever, and Vaccinia. This is not only for the protection of patients but for the protection of the healthcare workers themselves and to maintain a healthy healthcare workforce in the event of an outbreak of any of those diseases. And imagine what would happen if you go to the hospital for life saving surgery and half of the staff is out sick with the flu or something even worse. Imagine a sick healthcare worker spreading the flu or Hep or Measles, Mumps, Rubella, imagine a unimmunized nurse or nurses aid sick with Rubella working in a high risk maternity ward, someone with Pertussis working in the children’s ward or someone with TB working in the cafeteria.

70 posted on 11/24/2012 2:54:25 PM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: driftdiver

Again, the article says “employees”,,it doesn’t say healthcare workers.


71 posted on 11/24/2012 2:54:25 PM PST by austinaero
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To: MD Expat in PA

Advisable is not the same as required.


72 posted on 11/24/2012 2:55:16 PM PST by austinaero
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To: austinaero
They are mentioned as “employees”,,could be janitors and secretaries,,who knows? Also NOT MENTIONED is any link to any piece of literature showing that healthcare workers who do NOT get a vaccine somehow cause a significant health issue or have caused a significant issue to patients. ...where is that proof?

There isn't any. IT personnel, paper pushers, etc...even in 'off-site' locations are forced to SUBMIT (if they want to keep working...if you are one of the paycheck to paycheck crowd, too bad). In Red Hampshire; if you work for Pepsi (or Coke), and have to service a machine at a RH hospital; you MUST have a flu shot. They are considered 'contractors', and must be immunized.

73 posted on 11/24/2012 3:01:43 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Why compromise your immune system with these shots? Time to fight back.


74 posted on 11/24/2012 3:04:26 PM PST by codder too
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Never had a shot, hope never to get one either.

JB


75 posted on 11/24/2012 3:08:09 PM PST by thatjoeguy ( Hulk... SMASH!!)
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To: austinaero
Advisable is not the same as required.

The CDC has a list of recommendations, what immunizations for healthcare workers are “strongly advised”, but the actual requirements for healthcare workers are regulated by each State’s departments of health. Here is New York’s for instance:

http://www.health.ny.gov/prevention/immunization/health_care_personnel/

Here is Rhode Island’s:

http://www.health.ri.gov/immunization/for/healthcareworkers/index.php

Here is Texas’:

http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/immunize/shot_pol.shtm

Of course hospitals and clinics can, as a condition of employment, require immunizations over and above what is required in the state in which they are operating.

I remember a time when food service/food handlers had to be tested for TB and Typhoid. I think that was a good idea, something that should be required.

76 posted on 11/24/2012 3:14:26 PM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: Black Agnes
China would never adulterate any of the consumer goods it sells. Never.

Hundreds of pets in our country learned that hard lesson a few years back...

77 posted on 11/24/2012 3:15:56 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m with the others who refuse to get a flu shot. My mother and aunt used to get them every year and of course, they got the flu. I’ve never had one and have never had the flu.


78 posted on 11/24/2012 3:21:41 PM PST by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The comments after the story are interesting.

I note that most of the comments defending the shots are coming from the 'elite' community...'Hahvahd', university professors and such...

79 posted on 11/24/2012 3:23:31 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: driftdiver
Healthcare workers are well aware of the special requirements their field has. They know its a requirement.

So, healthcare have to sacrifice their health to political correctness.

80 posted on 11/24/2012 3:27:17 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: who knows what evil?

If employees don’t like the terms of the contract they are free to vote with their feet and find another job.


81 posted on 11/24/2012 3:28:30 PM PST by PoeToaster
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To: oh8eleven

Brought it to it’s knees... LOL

I think the real cliff hit upon your retirement. Hasn’t been the same since.

BTW - Good to see you are still kicking... Haven’t heard from you in a while.


82 posted on 11/24/2012 3:33:29 PM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am a part time/PRN employee of a gym that is run by our local hospital. Part of the contract I signed stipulated flu shots (among others) as a condition of hire.

If a flu shot is not within my liking, I am/was free to leave.

No sympathy.


83 posted on 11/24/2012 3:38:20 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: MV=PY
Did they sign the agreement?

The ones who wanted to keep their jobs did. Most of them had families they were supporting, so it wasn't a difficult decision for them.

84 posted on 11/24/2012 3:40:35 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: elkfersupper

I’m saying they took a job knowing the requirements and now they are refusing to meet those requirements.

Employers have rights too.


85 posted on 11/24/2012 3:42:19 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: PoeToaster
If employees don’t like the terms of the contract they are free to vote with their feet and find another job.

Let's try this one more time for the reading impaired...there are people in this country who have been given little choice in the matter...working for many years; when out of the blue; they are given 30-60 day warnings that they MUST now submit to a flu shot or be terminated. How would YOU like to be put into a position where you must leave your employer to seek out another job with short notice in THIS economy? Sorry...it's an outrage. If they had been told when the offer of employment was made, fine. That was NOT the case in these 'mandated' flu shot scenarios.

86 posted on 11/24/2012 3:42:37 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: austinaero

In this case its the same thing but you can argue semantics if you so choose.


87 posted on 11/24/2012 3:43:59 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

You must have a great company. A true leader!


88 posted on 11/24/2012 3:45:19 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it)
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To: who knows what evil?

The totalitarian Fascists where I work insisted on the vaccine too. It is everywhere in healthcare.


89 posted on 11/24/2012 3:45:59 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: driftdiver
I’m saying they took a job knowing the requirements and now they are refusing to meet those requirements.

That is NOT true.

90 posted on 11/24/2012 3:46:31 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

What isn’t true? That they knew it was a requirement or that they are refusing?

I work with a lot of hospitals, they know its a requirement.

They had 30 days to get a free shot. Employers have rules and have to enforce them.


91 posted on 11/24/2012 3:48:52 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Very interesting. Thanks for posting.


92 posted on 11/24/2012 3:49:01 PM PST by PGalt
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To: who knows what evil?

People who work in healthcare have to get a host of shots among other things.

Tough skittles if you don’t want to comply.


93 posted on 11/24/2012 3:51:21 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Chickensoup

Potential employees should be told UP FRONT that they will be forced to submit to vaccination as a condition of employment...that was NOT the case in many of these ‘forced terminations’ that are now popping up around the country.


94 posted on 11/24/2012 3:52:13 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think that many if not most hospitals are following suit. Hospital workers are exposed to all kinds of germs and can expose others as well. The hospital that I work in has made flu shots mandatory starting this year. I’ve received a flu shot for the past 4-5 years with no side effects or flu.


95 posted on 11/24/2012 3:54:09 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: who knows what evil?

Change careers if you don’t like it.


96 posted on 11/24/2012 3:56:49 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
What isn’t true?

When many of these people were hired years and years ago; they were NOT told that they would have to submit to forced vaccinations...never. Now, after years of employment; they are told to hit the road if they refuse a potentially dangerous flu shot? One month in this economy is NOT adequate warning. Now that the word is out, many people ARE moving on to other professions.

Good for them.

97 posted on 11/24/2012 3:58:41 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: driftdiver
Change careers if you don’t like it.

Real easy in this economy...this has nothing to do with me, by the way. I wouldn't go NEAR a hospital...especially nowadays.

98 posted on 11/24/2012 4:01:57 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Policy changes happen all the time.


99 posted on 11/24/2012 4:02:15 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

The right thing is to eat a healthy diet, exercise, and not compromise your immune system, and NOT introduce toxins such as flu shots into your body....JMO....

Where I work we are offered the shots but are able to opt out, which a lot of us do.


100 posted on 11/24/2012 4:03:38 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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