[dirtboy]

Finally, such legislation MUST close the Mexican/US border, by whatever means necessary.

And you think it's a good idea to have the same government that spends every dollar of the Social Security surplus while still calling it a trust fund asset ... have the ability to declare the border secure when it will be nothing close to secure.

That is the problem now, as it was in 1987. Amnesty is granted but the border security and immigration enforcement never materialize.

[Wonder Warthog]

"And you think it's a good idea to have the same government that spends every dollar of the Social Security surplus while still calling it a trust fund asset ... have the ability to declare the border secure when it will be nothing close to secure."

You have a very active imagination if you think that is what I said.

"That is the problem now, as it was in 1987. Amnesty is granted but the border security and immigration enforcement never materialize."

Correct. And that is why the border must BE CLOSED (not "declared closed"). One approach to that assurance is that such a determination will be made by the governors of the four states along that border....not the feds. I'm sure there are other acceptable mechanisms to reach the same endpoint.