[DarkWaters]

Don’t know until the votes are counted truthfully.

Only time I see this happening at this stage of the game is when I am brought before God to learn what really happened, and that's if he sees value in telling me. To many people have either bought into the notion that the end justifies the mean rather than Honor and Law, or its better to just stay quite on the side lines which only encourages the callow behavior.

[machogirl]

At least the Dem “elect” will have to start campaigning again and if things haven’t fallen to the point of no return he will have to stand in less than two years for another election.

But, how many have no faith in elections anymore?