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The Next Oil Revolution
Energy Tribune ^ | November 17, 2012 | Peter C Glover

Posted on 11/17/2012 9:08:10 PM PST by neverdem

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To: American Constitutionalist
One school of thought on mini-refineries would build 'topping facilities' to remove distillates (diesel, napthalenes) from the crude oil, use the diesel locally and ship the napthalenes and the heavier feedstock via pipeline to larger facilities for further refining. Topping facilities are relatively simple, especially compared to a major refinery.

There is an economy of scale involved in the refining of oil, and larger facilities are already tied into existing pipeline networks--both incoming and outgoing. Permitting a new facility would be tougher than expanding existing ones, as the past few years of refinery development have shown (refiners opted for the latter).

Guarding myriad facilities is perhaps more difficult than guarding one or two, even though larger facilities might be more of a terror target.

Refineries are surrounded by chemical plants for a reason: ship the feedstocks for the chemical plants next door, rather than ship them longer distances. Shipping those same multiple and more specialized feedstocks to chemical plants would negate some of the economic advantage of the more localized refineries. (Think ethylene, tolulene, etc.), especially when the costs of environmental compliance are factored in.

Where modular facilities might pay off is for the production of fertilizer or electricity from otherwise flared wellhead gas, especially if those facilities could be moved in a few truckloads. Some separation of heavier gasses, water, etc. might have to occur onsite for the process to be efficient, and the units would have to be able to be tuned to differing gas mixtures inherent in different wells and over the well's production history. Plus, all that would have to get EPA approval, which could be a real bugaboo (along with allocation of extraction taxes and royalty issues--something for the lawyers to sort out).

Still, something only flared at the production site could conceivably be turned into a viable resource.

21 posted on 11/18/2012 5:18:13 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Orange1998

Around 12 years ago, ground beef was on sale for 99 cents a pound, too.


22 posted on 11/18/2012 5:25:46 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: RockyTx

Shale oil and gas are plentiful throughout the world’s energy basins. China, Europe, and Argentina have huge resources. The problem is the infrastructure. To develop on a massive scale, you need roads, pipelines, and processing facilities. You also need some economic sanity (Europe has effectively banned hydraulic fracturing, which is the only way to unlock the hydrocarbons). Major oil service companies must be set up with yards, equipment and personnel - this alone will take years to establish overseas. You need the right kind of proppant (spherically-grained white sand works best, found exclusively in the upper Midwest of the U.S.).

All of these are up and running in the U.S., which is why we are the front lines of the unconventional resource revolution!


23 posted on 11/18/2012 5:29:48 AM PST by pghoilman (Earth First. We'll drill the rest of the galaxy later.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

-——Where modular facilities might pay off is for the production of fertilizer or electricity from otherwise flared wellhead gas-——

On Monday I visited a very large American company building equipment for an electric generating plant in Abu Dhabi. It was like the tower of Babel........ engineers of many national origins with two common languages. Those were English and American engineering project management methods. (but I digress)

The electricity generated by the flare gas is used to smelt aluminum. When complete, it will be the largest capacity aluminum smelter in the world


24 posted on 11/18/2012 5:38:08 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: gleeaikin

As a rule, at least here in Texas, if a company leases property for production, they have to drill it within a specified time on the lease or they lose it. After they drill it they have to produce something(amount varies, I think) or the lease will still expire. They can drill, however and cut production back to a minimum and still hold the lease indefinitely. At least that is case with my own property that is leased.


25 posted on 11/18/2012 6:05:03 AM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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FReepathon is still on. Day 49
If not now, when?



26 posted on 11/18/2012 7:32:56 AM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: pghoilman

“..All of these are up and running in the U.S., which is why we are the front lines of the unconventional resource revolution!...”
Yep. You are correct on every point you made. Other places in the world have those shale resources as well, but little, or no, physical infrastructure and their governments are totally insane.
The horizontal drilling and fracking technologies were developed right here in the good old US of A. As I type this, I’m sitting in the middle of the Eagle Ford trend in south Texas working on an oil/gas processing facility overseeing a major equipment/piping upgrade to get this little puppy up to about 30,000bbl/day capacity. Oh, one of the companies down here has bought into the fracking sand business...BIG TIME. Not only for their own corporate use, but for when the rest of the world eventually wakes up and digs their head out of the butts.


27 posted on 11/18/2012 7:33:41 AM PST by lgjhn23
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To: neverdem

Human beings are the ultimate resource. Yet, liberals keep getting elected by using resource scarcity to terrorize people. Go figure.


28 posted on 11/18/2012 7:54:11 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Smokin' Joe

A simple topping plant is very unlikely to meet current EPA requirements of ULSD.

Cost of Diesel climbed because cost of making ULSD climbed. It isn’t made with simple topping.


29 posted on 11/18/2012 8:32:06 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

That would depend on feedstocks, I would think. No H2s in Bakken oil.


30 posted on 11/18/2012 9:31:43 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I have never seen an oil assessment for any location that meets the 0.0015% sulfur requirement of the EPA.

While much or most of the Bakken is classified as sweet, I don’t think anything is that sweet without sulfur removal processes.

Have you seen anything meeting that criteria?

I suspect the sweetest crudes are going to be nearly 100 time too much sulfur.

http://www.argusmedia.com/Petroleum/Crude/~/media/C21F9F5995164371B7D51651F950F49E.ashx


31 posted on 11/18/2012 10:36:40 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
I bow to your superior knowledge of refining.

I had no idea that the standard was that (insanely?) low. How much of that sulfur would come out in the distillate versus remain in the other fractions?

32 posted on 11/18/2012 11:22:59 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe
How much of that sulfur would come out in the distillate versus remain in the other fractions?

I think (but don't know) that the distillate is going to keep the sulfur in similar ratios. A significant part of that sulfur is bound in the molecular string; it isn't pure hydrogen-carbon bonds only.

It is often removed with hydrotreating, which is a milder version of hydrocracking. This process creates H2S in order to make it removable from the product stream. It requires a source of Hydrogen. In a refinery, that is often from steam reformation of Natural Gas.

Takes more than a still these days to stay legal with the EPA.

33 posted on 11/18/2012 6:52:06 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I had no idea that the standard was that (insanely?) low.

Sorry, I should have supplied some info on that.

A 15 parts per million (ppm) sulfur specification, known as Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel (ULSD), was phased in for highway diesel fuel from 2006-2010.

EPA Home > Transportation & Air Quality > Fuels and Fuel Additives > Diesel Fuel
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/fuels/dieselfuels/index.htm

34 posted on 11/19/2012 5:01:22 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Thanks!


35 posted on 11/19/2012 5:20:08 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: lgjhn23

Yep - I am up to my eyeballs in the fracking business! It’s incredible technology, and we’re in the early innings of a game that will someday soon make North America energy independent. A worthy cause! Never thought it possible a few years ago. Too bad the industry’s reputation still gets abused by the leftists.


36 posted on 11/19/2012 7:30:12 AM PST by pghoilman (Earth First. We'll drill the rest of the galaxy later.)
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To: pghoilman

“...Too bad the industry’s reputation still gets abused by the leftists....”
Leftists are chronically mentally sick. Liberalism rots out the brain to think straight. EPA isn’t much better since they’re run by liberals. Inmates running the asylum so to speak. They’re hellbent on trying to destroy the USA. Rest assured, they’ll continue trying to find ways to shut us down... Our job is to see that they don’t and to get as much of this out of the ground, treated, and then on to the market as possible. The sheer number of jobs this industry creates is what I think really bothers them as it creates people not dependent on them for anything.


37 posted on 11/19/2012 9:00:25 AM PST by lgjhn23
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To: lgjhn23

>>and their governments are totally insane.

We’re working on that one. Lisa Jackson’s people are on it!


38 posted on 11/22/2012 4:19:21 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: pghoilman

Exciting times ahead and it looks like the US is poised to benefit if proper choices are made! Nice tag by the way.


39 posted on 11/23/2012 8:06:37 AM PST by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: Yardstick
Thank God for Big Oil and the coming American oil boom. It’s one of the few reasons for optimism these days.

I'd like to think that way, too. Except that "BIG OIL" doesn't think of themselves as American. They think of themselves as global entrepreneurs in search of maximum profit and while there is absolutely nothing wrong with a profitable bottom line, in the case of energy, it is literally the life blood of the country. Yet the folks at EXXON and SHELL et al will see nothing wrong at all in selling US supplies to CHINA or wherever they can get maximum profit at the expense of our national security. Of course, true to form, OBOZO will do everything he can to help them undermine us.

40 posted on 11/23/2012 8:27:43 PM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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