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To: Jo Nuvark

People, Article II and the 12th Amendment say no such thing. Read them. Carefully.


9 posted on 11/17/2012 12:50:33 PM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: xjcsa

And you should not give over something to the government that you would not be completely comfortable seeing in the hands of your worst enemy.


12 posted on 11/17/2012 12:53:23 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: xjcsa

It is sad that your comment is the first to mention that.

I think they got confused by the “2/3rds quorum” needed in the house for the case where nobody gets a majority of electoral votes.

But maybe they were just making things up.


13 posted on 11/17/2012 12:55:00 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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Xjcsa is right....I just read them carefully, and its not true. Sorry folks...thhe two thirds being present requirement only applies to congress deciding the president if the electoral vote was a tie, or split with no maajority.


20 posted on 11/17/2012 1:21:18 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: xjcsa

Clause 3: Electors

The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse [sic] by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse [sic] the President. But in chusing [sic] the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse [sic] from them by Ballot the Vice President.

(Note: This procedure was changed by the Twelfth Amendment in 1804.)

In modern practice, each state chooses its electors in popular elections. Once chosen, the electors meet in their respective states to cast ballots for the President and Vice President. Originally, each elector cast two votes for President; at least one of the individuals voted for had to be from a state different from the elector’s. The individual with the majority of votes became President, and the runner-up became Vice President. In case of a tie, the House of Representatives could choose one of the tied candidates; if no person received a majority, then the House could again choose one of the five with the greatest number of votes. When the House voted, each state delegation cast one vote, and the vote of a majority of states was necessary to choose a President. If second-place candidates were tied, then the Senate broke the tie. A quorum of two-thirds applied in both Houses: at least one member from each of two-thirds of the states in the House of Representatives, and at least two-thirds of the Senators in the Senate. This procedure was followed in 1801 after the electoral vote produced a tie, and nearly resulted in a deadlock in the House.

The Twelfth Amendment introduced a number of important changes to the procedure. Now, Electors do not cast two votes for President; rather, they cast one vote for President and another for Vice President. In case no Presidential candidate receives a majority, the House chooses from the top three (not five, as with Vice Presidential candidates). The Amendment also requires the Senate to choose the Vice President from those with the two highest figures if no Vice Presidential candidate receives a majority of electoral votes (rather than only if there’s a tie for second for President). It also stipulates that to be the Vice President, a person must be qualified to be the President.


35 posted on 11/17/2012 5:32:12 PM PST by markp922
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