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To: yldstrk; John Leland 1789
Get over yourself, yldstrk! We get it how blessed you are that you never had to spank your kids - though you DID admit "I have walloped my kids on the butt occasionally". You are not the universal mommy so therefore you cannot determine what is best for everyone else's kids. It's funny that you have to attack a man's religious background in order to demonize his parenting style. It sure sounds like he and his wife did a very fine job raising their seven kids and this Godly man doesn't have to answer to you nor credit you for having any part in that!

Here's a newsflash - not all kids are the same! What works for one may not phase another. The Bible says to raise up a child in the way he should go - according to his "bent" - and when we do that, we are assured he will not depart from the good upbringing he had. Kids need love AND discipline - it proves to them that we love them. Discipline in no way means brutality. Parents should never strike out in anger against their kids, and if they do, they should apologize. But with certain children, the only thing that snaps them out of fits of pique and stubbornness is a spanking. Note...I said "spanking" - not slapping, beating, bruising, bloodying or scarring. It CAN be done and, when necessary, it works.

You don't like Dobson, we get it, don't buy his books, don't listen to his teaching. This thread, however, is about VALUES. Those values that we once considered normal and society as a whole was unified on what was right and wrong. We have strayed away from moral values and there is a heavy price to pay. We need to do all we can to return our country to those moral standings if we ever hope to get back the blessings of God. I hope you can at least agree with James Dobson on that point!

87 posted on 11/17/2012 9:18:59 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

ok thread police.

we will only talk about values, got it


88 posted on 11/17/2012 9:30:25 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: boatbums

Well said.


95 posted on 11/18/2012 6:22:33 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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