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To: thackney
Natural Gas then compressed to over 3,000 psi at a vehicle fueling station is going to be around $2.00~$2.50 per gasoline gallon equivalent. Possibly more in markets like California.

That's not the information I'm getting from my local gas company. You may or may not know this, but if you have a large amount of gas usage, you can buy your supply on the spot market, and pay a transport fee to the gas company who's pipelines you use to transport the fuel. You do not have to buy the natural gas from the company that owns the pipes leading to your application.

It is no difficult task for a large user of Natural gas to buy the fuel on the market to supply their own stations. A large trucking company could easily manage the usage necessary to make this worthwhile.

I'm shooting for a sell to the public price of $1.00/gallon for my own station. But for my own usage, i'm expecting the price to be around 50-60 cents per gallon. I'll find out soon how that's going to work out. My output pressure is going to be 3,600 #.

36 posted on 11/14/2012 6:17:42 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
You may or may not know this, but if you have a large amount of gas usage, you can buy your supply on the spot market, and pay a transport fee to the gas company who's pipelines you use to transport the fuel.

You need to a bit more research on that cost. If you believe you are going to fuel a car at a better rate than refinery buys gas, you are mistaken.

I'm shooting for a sell to the public price of $1.00/gallon for my own station.

I wish you lots of luck with that. It will be interesting to see how you can compete at such a different price level than the majors.

I'll find out soon how that's going to work out. My output pressure is going to be 3,600 #.

Have you priced the cost to purchase, operate and maintain such compression and fuel station?

37 posted on 11/14/2012 6:52:07 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: DiogenesLamp
By the way, if you reach $1/gal equivalent, I still don't see where you approach a 10:1 ratio of savings for the consumer.

For those interested, a chart below of price comparison on average.

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Source:
http://www.afdc.energy.gov/fuels/prices.html

Since the time of these prices in Summer, Natural Gas has risen in price a bit and crude oil has fallen, making the difference even smaller.

I agree there is a price difference. I expect that price difference will drive more vehicles to use natural gas in the near future. I do not want FReepers to expect a 10 to one price savings; that will not happen.

38 posted on 11/14/2012 7:11:05 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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