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Adviser: Romney "shellshocked" by loss
cbsnews ^ | 11/8/2012 | Jan Crawford

Posted on 11/09/2012 3:33:33 AM PST by gotribe

"We went into the evening confident we had a good path to victory," said one senior adviser. "I don't think there was one person who saw this coming."

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Meanwhile the obama campaign computer tested election variables 66,000 ways every night up to Nov. 6. Mitt, buy a new f'n computer.

http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/07/inside-the-secret-world-of-quants-and-data-crunchers-who-helped-obama-win/2/

1 posted on 11/09/2012 3:33:39 AM PST by gotribe
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To: gotribe
Clueless.

Note this thread here about how bad Team Romney's operation really was...

Exclusive - Inside Orca: How the Romney Campaign Suppressed Its Own Vote

2 posted on 11/09/2012 3:37:42 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: gotribe

Call me crazy but there needs to be an investigation into the computer system with the results. It IS a shock! There is something fishy, I believe. How hard would it be to tamper with the computers? We already know numerous people were cheating; voting more than once, and some not even registered. I am a level headed person all the time; and a professional as well but I detect something weird. Doesn’t anybody else?


3 posted on 11/09/2012 3:41:37 AM PST by dgkb
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To: gotribe
Short of Romney offering free houses, free cars, free healthcare, etc, there was no way he had any chance of winning.
4 posted on 11/09/2012 3:43:00 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: gotribe

They didn’t take into account just how much cheating Democrats do at the polls.


5 posted on 11/09/2012 3:43:44 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: gotribe

It is ironic that a man known for his prowess as a CEO was unable to assemble a competent staff for his campaign.


6 posted on 11/09/2012 3:44:10 AM PST by CASchack
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To: gotribe

He under estimated the stupidity of the american people. Big mistake.


7 posted on 11/09/2012 3:44:58 AM PST by 109ACS (If this be Treason, then make the most of it. Patrick Henry, May 1765)
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To: dgkb

Also, possibly Trump should offer 5 million to the person who messed with the computers in the voting to come forward, or for information.


8 posted on 11/09/2012 3:46:36 AM PST by dgkb
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To: gotribe

Very, VERY fishy....


9 posted on 11/09/2012 3:48:55 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: gotribe
"We went into the evening confident we had a good path to victory," said one senior adviser. "I don't think there was one person who saw this coming."

Unfortunately many conservatives saw this coming, starting with Mike Savage.

The Romney advisers avoided Michael and his sage advice.

I cannot say that made a difference. I was shocked and stunned by the loss, but not totally surprised.

The usual allegations of fraud in the inner cities (Philadelphia with 99% turnout?), and too many Romney supporters staying home, were problems.

10 posted on 11/09/2012 3:49:03 AM PST by olezip
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To: gotribe

.

Now, it just breaks my heart when I think about that video of Mitt arriving at that airport unannounced and being met by thousands in that parking garage where he placed his hand over his heart and said, ‘This is how you know you’re going to win’.

I am just so heartsick about this. Mitt and all of us worked so hard for the election.

.


11 posted on 11/09/2012 3:50:19 AM PST by patriot08
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To: dgkb

“I am a level headed person all the time; and a professional as well but I detect something weird. Doesn’t anybody else?”

I do; I didn’t think Mitt would have a landslide, but there is no way more than half of the voters see any hope with Obama. As for people “sitting this one out”, who has the luxury of dooing that in this economy?

I’m skeptical, but don’t expect anything to be done about it. In the meantime, those Obama voters who used to benefit from my spending (waitresses, fast food workers, etc.) will have to tighten their belts as I continue to tighten mine.


12 posted on 11/09/2012 3:55:01 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: CASchack
To be fair, a presidential candidate isn't even the CEO of his own campaign. With all of the money pouring in through various channels, party knuckleheads usually run the campaign.

Ironically, I think the GOP would have been well served to have a popular "red state" governor run at the top of the ticket -- and have Romney serve as the campaign director.

One more bit of irony is that if you had gone back to early 2012 before the start of the primary season, you'd be hard-pressed to find any conservatives (including just about everyone here on FreeRepublic) who would not have been thrilled to hear that Romney would not be elected President. Let's face it, folks ... the Republican Party lost with a candidate who none of us wanted anyway.

13 posted on 11/09/2012 3:55:57 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: patriot08

Who is Project Orca?


14 posted on 11/09/2012 3:56:53 AM PST by Thebaddog (Remember, Obama said he's only 60% done with his agenda.)
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To: gotribe

I would say I was pretty shocked at well. I felt sure he was going to win...


15 posted on 11/09/2012 3:58:23 AM PST by wyowolf
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To: gotribe
Ha! Ha! I think the country was shellshocked too! It's just unimaginable that half the people in this country went BACK to elect this charlatan Obama after living the nightmare of these past four years. I know I was! I honestly thought my fn dog catcher could beat Obama, but that's what you get when you run a RINO.

I now fully grasp the factual evidence, RINOS are the death nails to winning national elections, but the STUPID party is too STUPID to understand this! All you who said stick to your principles, and I said ABO because I want to save my country, I thank you for at least trying.

16 posted on 11/09/2012 4:02:25 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: gotribe

Well, like many of us, he believed Americans would see the light.

But now...there`s no light to see.


17 posted on 11/09/2012 4:03:35 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: gotribe

Didn’t see it coming...shocked.

Yup that’s the trouble with the GOPe.


18 posted on 11/09/2012 4:06:30 AM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: tobyhill

That became abundantly clear. He wasn`t willing to get into a pandering bidding war.

But apparently, in New Amerika, that`s what it takes.


19 posted on 11/09/2012 4:06:36 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: gotribe

corruption... Romney didn’t anticipate the level of voter fraud and corruption in the system


20 posted on 11/09/2012 4:11:18 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: ScottinVA

I don’t think democrat VOTERS think zero won, - fair win - either.

When are we going to exit this shocked haze and find the fraud that put him over the top?


21 posted on 11/09/2012 4:13:46 AM PST by txhurl
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To: 109ACS

Very true. As I have listened over the last few years to pundits, advisors, “conservative” GOP insiders commenting whether in interviews or actual hosts on talk radio, one thing that amazed me was their niavity about the prevaling culture of the American people and their cluelessness as to how it has changed over the decades. They apparently live in a caccoon in their upscale burrows and other than airline flights over the masses and overseas they never witness it. I never had any optimism as some did, and frankly the only thing that surprised me in this election was the consensus of positive spirit at how Romney would probably win this. I always figured he would lose it.


22 posted on 11/09/2012 4:16:40 AM PST by MachIV
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To: dgkb

It still doesn’t make sense to me either. There has been a strong motivation for 4 yrs to get Ivan out and then people don’t show up when it counts? I think the race was close enough that some tricks could be pulled in the key states to swing it to the asshat. But we will never know, and if it ever did come out no one will do anything. This government is lawless.


23 posted on 11/09/2012 4:17:20 AM PST by Newton (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: MachIV

The GOP had the 2010 Census results.

So I am not buying that the GOP is now so surprised by these “unexpected” shifts.

We are being plied with these false premises of immigration amnesty, Hispandering, and women’s vaginas as being the future of the GOP by the very powers in the GOP that lost this easily winnable election for us.

It is because THEY, the GOP-e, want these things, and are tired of us Conservatives mucking it up for them.


24 posted on 11/09/2012 4:21:37 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: dgkb

It still doesn’t make sense to me either. There has been a strong motivation for 4 yrs to get him out and then people don’t show up when it counts? I think the race was close enough that some tricks could be pulled in the key states to swing it to the asshat. But we will never know, and if it ever did come out no one will do anything. This government is lawless.


25 posted on 11/09/2012 4:21:45 AM PST by Newton (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: dgkb
Call me crazy but there needs to be an investigation into the computer system with the results. It IS a shock! There is something fishy, I believe. How hard would it be to tamper with the computers? We already know numerous people were cheating; voting more than once, and some not even registered. I am a level headed person all the time; and a professional as well but I detect something weird. Doesn’t anybody else?

I agree. There were just too many indicators, from too many varied sources, drawing the same conclusion of a Romney victory for everyone to have been so wrong. Add to that the well-known chicanery the Democrats are so infamous for, and it resulted in what happened the other night.

26 posted on 11/09/2012 4:22:30 AM PST by NH Liberty ("For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus..." [1 Timothy 2:5])
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To: dgkb

yes, isnt it strange, for example, that Wisconsin went completely Republican except for president and senator?

all those folks who wanted GOP state reps voted for obama and the lesbian whatsername?

The tamperers should have at least messed with a few local races to scatter things a bit more logically


27 posted on 11/09/2012 4:29:54 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: gotribe

He couldn’t poll the voting machines.

Fwiu some blue districts had the exact same vote counts for the dem state leg as they did for zero. That is impossible.

Election hacked


28 posted on 11/09/2012 4:35:23 AM PST by AdamBomb
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To: gotribe

I waited 3 hours in line to vote, I had hope. Lets be honest with ourselves. We ran Donnie and Marie against Al Capones mob. This was too important an election to let this happen. I blame the oldline GOP.


29 posted on 11/09/2012 4:35:34 AM PST by ExSafecracker (. .CHANGE !! . . Jimmy Carter is no longer Americas worst President.)
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To: CASchack

I agree.

The GOP seems to have a top flight leadership both in public and behind closed doors that think it is still 2002.

Romney had huge funds, huge motivation and yet so badly under performed. I think he could have been a fine President.

Republicans have got to start playing nasty like they used to. If they don’t they’re finished. There is a serious and worrying void of leadership.


30 posted on 11/09/2012 4:35:48 AM PST by UKrepublican
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To: dgkb

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2957390/posts
How weird is this?


31 posted on 11/09/2012 4:40:43 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: NH Liberty

IMHO, your insight is probably correct. In the grander scheme of things, I suspect in God’s Plan, He is simply allowing those out of fellowship and who reject His provision to continue in their own volition, manifesting the ultimate failed consequences of their decisions.

It will become more obvious to all who are saved that rejection of His Plan leads to not only catastrophic conclusions, but those same rebellious volitions will further degenerate into stealing all crowns from those who do not bow down to them. It will become obvious to all souls, for all eternity future, that the Lake of Fire is an eternally just solution for those who reject Him.

IMHO, while the present Administration probably would relish the opportunity to be labeled the AntiChrist or Beast, I suspect they simply are examples for the real one to learn from their mistakes. The Adversary is too legalistic to tolerate or condone the loose thinking of this Administration.

When their utility has waned, they won’t have any value to him than to be made an example of those who disobey his desires. They’re just lackies who rejected God’s provision and think in their degenerate mindset that they can satiate the Adversary, while they are paving the path to their doom.


32 posted on 11/09/2012 4:41:13 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: gotribe; All
Echo chamber mentality. People - even on FR - get fired up one way or another and leave facts behind. Now, it's confessions time . . .

One this board, I resisted the nomination of ‘the mitten’ with hundreds of others. My picks crashed and burned early on for a number of reasons but Newt and Mitt were the pair it boiled down to. I would guess that of those, the majority here supported Newt. I did not because Newt is no conservative - research him and bypass his selected clips and campaign snuggling with conservatives - he's no friend of the Constitution or individualism (BTW, if you're going to write a counter-screed defending Newt, don't waste your time on me). Many times I asserted that I wouldn't vote for either of them when it came down to it.

Well, I did.

There. It's out. I voted for Mitt. I'm not proud of it but I did it to buy time knowing full well that we're still going over the cliff but we'd do so at a moderate and lawful 55 mph rather than having a RAT at the wheel doing 120 mph.

Pragmatism for sure. Also, I'm used to voting for losers and have done so all my life. Living in MN I've probably done more than my share. Truth is, the pubbie party isn't really my party but it serves a purpose as long as it retards socialism.

Some folks, however, are not as ‘pragmatic’ or compromising. I laud them. I also wish that I didn't crawl through broken glass every election to vote for weenies that I know are going to cave with the first huff and puff of the RATs. I salute the principled voters who stood aside and voted their conscience and voted for 3rd party candidates (not the dopes that stayed home however; they're just weenies, too).

These principled voters, though, may have cost the election. I'm willing to guess that when it's all said and done and analysed to death, the margin needed to turn the tide was off tilting at windmills and smooching with a ‘pure’ lover. Fine, I've done the same in a snit many times and can point no finger of condemnation. In fact, what has happened is only inevitable anyway and genuine conservatives with history know this to be true.

Our foundations cannot withstand an immoral and corrupt political class with a complicit electorate, reckless government spending, selfish citizens focused on benefits, a flood of immigrants with alien sensibilities and aid dependence and, most of all, a weakening and apostate (c)hurch that flounders about in doing ‘good works’ and hasn't a clue or care about repentance and brokenness before our God and Creator.

I have worked all of my adult life to avoid this day. I'm am not distraught or afraid, though. Because I have seen this hour (like zillions of conservatives) and I have lived in such a way as to avoid its impacts to a large degree. I am not an island nor do I have a bunker. I am, to varying degrees, trying to apprehend the sovereignty of God and what that means in real, practical terms of life. For one, it does not mean that my defenders are in DC or with a stockpile of weaponry. Like food, the physical realm is needed but it should never rule and is bound to enslave the lives of those who are captive to it. Same with alcohol or prepping or a thousand and one self-sufficient philosophies. Of course, I eat. I have a beer once in a while and I have some firearms. I would defend my life or family, too, but I have found a much greater defender and provider.

Simply put, Christ is my answer.

Yeah, I know. You've heard that from all kinds of losers and people who run from reality into religion. Truth is, I hate religion and run from it too. So did Christ.

What is missing from the lives of most ‘believers’ is the constant need to be broken and willingness to live out the revealed will of God already given to us in Scripture. It leads to faith, not false hope or confidence in self. It leads to family harmony instead of the paranoid ‘us against them’ syndrome. It leads to giving with confidence in God's provision and, yes, that means we also work diligently for our bread. In short, what we have seen and are about to experience is nothing new. History is rife with collapsing societies and mayhem. It is also full of men and women who are willing to take their faith to another level and give themselves to God's care wherever that may be.

Yes, Christians are dying around the world. Like the Iranian pastor, though, many are willing to do so. We may be spared, we may not. Work for your bread and share with brothers and sisters in need. Strive for Holiness in your lives and homes and remember that our lives here are only prologue.

33 posted on 11/09/2012 4:42:07 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: gotribe

Look, Obama votes had been bought and counted for since the Stimulus money could be accounted for.

We all thought ACORN disappeared, but no, they just operated in the dark. Together with Unions, they have delivered the ‘goods’.


34 posted on 11/09/2012 4:42:31 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

>>> Stimulus money could NOT be accounted ......

Unprecendented, exactly. The election was stolen outright.

Both the political system, and the election system had failed the citizens.


35 posted on 11/09/2012 4:45:22 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: gotribe

Bottom line......;3 million pubbies stayed home, Romneys ground game stunk and he never went after Bam after charges of murder, felonies and Bain Cap.


36 posted on 11/09/2012 4:45:52 AM PST by kenmcg (t)
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To: gotribe

The reason Obama won was spiritual. I don’t hate Mormons but they don’t hear from God!
Evangelical Christians stayed home and didn’t vote.
If you can’t figure out why we lost you are a freakin’ moron!!!!


37 posted on 11/09/2012 4:47:17 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: gotribe

Halloween mask sales said Romney would win.
Washington Redskins rule said Romney would win.
Reports of “blacks deserting en masse.”
Massive crowds vs. Dwindling drowds at rallies.
Poll Numbers pointing to high turnout with Republicans likely to vote.
Swing States reporting good numbers for Romney.

This was all turned on its head.

What did not change, however, was massive early voting and reports of shenanigans at select polling locations. Would not be surprised if Zero is shell-shocked, too, secretly wishing he could jump off the stage. Too late, pal. You’re holding the bag, and the whole world is watching. Have fun.


38 posted on 11/09/2012 4:48:03 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (double trouble, here we come)
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To: olezip

Quite frankly, I smelled defeat coming when they were making wild claims about winning states like MN and PA. I knew that was BS. Its the wild, semi-delusional crap you hear from people who know they are losing and losing badly.

From what I’ve read, Romney did not invest sufficiently in a ground game in the Battleground states. Obama did. It could well be that some of those folks the Obama campaign got to the polls, voted multiple times, but they turned ‘em out.


39 posted on 11/09/2012 5:02:33 AM PST by rbg81
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To: Fester Chugabrew

If the vote doesn’t reflect the true will of the people, Obama’s approval numbers should tank and he should become very unpopular. If the vote numbers are accurate, we’ll see continued support for Obama and his policies.


40 posted on 11/09/2012 5:03:45 AM PST by CASchack
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To: gotribe

Did my vote count? I’m not sure anymore.


41 posted on 11/09/2012 5:10:45 AM PST by McGruff (This is probably the biggest cover-up in American history - Sen. Fred Thompson)
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To: gotribe

He had real solutions and I agree with one poster here who said he underestimated how stupid people are today. Maybe he played things a little close to his vest but I feel that once elected he would have made a great president. I didn’t always feel that way but he won me over. I hope he stays a relevant voice like Sarah Palin has. He has at least earned a bully pulpit of sorts to point out Obamas failures.


42 posted on 11/09/2012 5:13:49 AM PST by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: gotribe

None of the numbers add up. Republican party ID versus Dim ID had swung towards the pubbies by 12 points since 2008 according to Ras. Republican party ID was at the highest in Oct it has ever been according to Ras. People don’t switch ID to sit at home, it means they’re actively involved. Huge turnount at the RR rallies as well as a huge disparity in overall support as witnessed by yard signs, stickers etc.

Romeny isn’t a true conservative by any stretch but he understands numbers about as well as anyone. He stated the night before the election that “it’s over”. He had gone over these numbers relentlessly and he knew exactly where he stood. Republicans had made up tremendous ground as opposed to 2008 in the early and absentee voting and yet couldn’t even match McCains pathetic numbers????

This is a failed presidency. And yet with all of the data indicating a huge turn towards the pubbies just as in 2010 the empty chair still gets north of 300 ev’s.

Obama’s advice to his supporters to “stay calm” on election day when turnout appears to be going against them seems especially prescient. Numerous precints reporting over 99% support for one candidate reeks of fraud.

Romney had every right to be stunned.


43 posted on 11/09/2012 5:14:37 AM PST by bereanway
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To: dgkb

“Doesn’t anybody else?”

I do and I always will. When O ran against McCain, we knew he would probably win. However, I personally saw a big change in my area alone. More Romney signs, few O signs, and people I knew who had voted for O were now voting for Romney. I don’t know how... but I will always feel this election was tampered with. IMHO.


44 posted on 11/09/2012 5:17:26 AM PST by momtothree
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To: tobyhill; All

really?? i think if our side got off its ass and went and voted for Romney in numbers even remotely close to what we expected we’re not b!tching today...make all the excuses you want- this was a winnable election Romney and the GOP lost...


45 posted on 11/09/2012 5:17:38 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: 109ACS

which dumb American people are you referring to??? obama voters?? the idiot Republicans who stayed at home rather than go vote from Romney and gave us another four years of this sh!t??? the moronic Christians who chose not to vote for Romney because he’s mormon?? all three??


46 posted on 11/09/2012 5:20:05 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: God luvs America

Romney shouldn’t be shocked. Voting stealing has been going on for decades and the Republicans do nothing about it.

Count how many precincts had amazing 100% ( or more) turn out with zero votes for Romney.

When our courts were still honest enough to hold to the rule of law, the Republicans should have done something about this. Now, it is too late. Nearly every cultural institution in our nation is filled to the brim with Marxists, especially our courts, law schools, and the media who will ignore it.


47 posted on 11/09/2012 5:24:59 AM PST by wintertime (:-))
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To: gotribe

Ok, now I will read the article.


48 posted on 11/09/2012 5:25:35 AM PST by wintertime (:-))
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To: Fester Chugabrew
This was all turned on its head.

Obama's fundraising struggles.

Obama's small crowds.

The freak-outs by liberals who also saw their loss as inevitable.

Obama's unemployment numbers spelled his doom.

Obama's GDP growth spelled his doom.

Obama's approval rating under 50%

I suspect party-line ballots were used in "safe" Dem precincts to ensure statewide wins.

That is why we saw so many Senate races go to the Dems (another unprecendented event)

But district races remained GOP while we even expanded our hold on the House.

Both Pennsylvania and Wisconsin went 100% Democrat statewide, while regional races went nearly 100% Republican.

If it smells like a deadfish, its probably a deadfish.

49 posted on 11/09/2012 5:25:39 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: dgkb
Call me crazy but there needs to be an investigation into the computer system with the results. It IS a shock! There is something fishy, I believe. How hard would it be to tamper with the computers? We already know numerous people were cheating; voting more than once, and some not even registered. I am a level headed person all the time; and a professional as well but I detect something weird. Doesn’t anybody else?

Give yourself some time. See if you feel the same way in a month or so.
50 posted on 11/09/2012 5:30:52 AM PST by Quester
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