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1 posted on 11/07/2012 5:18:15 AM PST by Damifino
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To: Damifino

Been using the same words myself this morning. Going Galt never had more relevance than today, and last night was truly the tipping point.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 5:21:06 AM PST by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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Excellent advice. The middle class is rapidly becoming disadvantaged, so millions ought to be signing up for these government programs. The illegal aliens are getting freebies, so certainly taxpayers are entitled to receive them.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 5:27:03 AM PST by txrefugee
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I keep hearing that the GOP needs to reach out to minorities. What the hell does that mean? I want the same thing for minorites as I do for anyone else...Freedom and liberty. I for one think treating minorities as adults instead of as some sort of permanent victim class is classy. Some how this gets turned around into being anti-minority. It’s maddening. I wish minorites would stop seeing themselves as some sort of permanent victim class and join us. The dems have done nothing for them in 60 years.

Now the Hispanics don’t like the conservative model either. Why? Because we simply want an enforcible immigration policy. What the hell is so controversial about that? I expect Mexico wants an enforcible immigration policy as well.

The politics of our day is maddening.

The Nanny state can not continue and it’s not the GOP saying this. It’s the math saying this. Here’s my appeal to blacks, hispanics, asians and everyone else who doesn’t think the GOP has reached out to you: Buy a calculator and check out the federal deficit. We’re in big trouble and we need your help to stop the bleeding.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 5:32:57 AM PST by Mustangman (The GOP)
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This is a good post for a vanity. I only disagree with the gold and silver part -they will not help when this thing collapses. Matches, food, water, alcohol, and ammo are the commodities to stockpile for currency replacement.

Matches can be like change. The rest are like various denominations of bills.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 5:33:44 AM PST by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: Damifino

Get prepared, help it crash.

The best revenge is to live well and not be dependent when those that are dependent have nothing to be dependent on.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 5:36:17 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Instead of going Galt, I believe we will do what people always do in the situation that now presents itself. We are headed to a command economy that will impoverish all of us...if we play by it’s rules.

Instead, we will do what the people of the old USSR did; we are going to live “na levo.” The rough translation is “on the side.” We will create our own underground economy, where barter rules, and theft from the government fuels it. You want to make sure you always jump the line to see the doctor? Build him a deck on his house. Need the lumber for the house? Give the guy at the lumber yard a couple bottles of whiskey. Make sure you take care of the cop who lives down the street so that he never reports you. Don’t get greedy, just do what you have to do to get by.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 5:36:47 AM PST by henkster (If you let them do it to you, you got yourself to blame.)
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11 posted on 11/07/2012 5:37:06 AM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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Do NOT become part of the system you hate by signing up for handouts.

The problem will take care of itself.

Remember that the liberal mindset sees wealth as a finite quantity that must be distributed evenly.

To that end, one key part of the hidden agenda which nobody likes to talk about is population control. Our clearest evidence of that is Planned Parenthood. However, other means besides birth prevention will clearly be necessary as this liberal system of government implodes upon itself.

I said some time ago that a LOT of people will have to die before this country truly wakes up to reality. There is nothing we as conservatives need to do to speed up that process. Our judgment is at hand.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 5:38:44 AM PST by Safrguns
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Succession looks pretty good to me....


15 posted on 11/07/2012 5:40:01 AM PST by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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Start complaining to every branch of government about everything. Demand insight in government documents in accordance with the Freedom of InformationAct even if those docs do not affect you one way or the other. If you have a hostile congress critter, send him or her mails on a daily basis and demand action on his or her part on everything you can think of. Turn in government workers who are doing a lousy job or don’t do their job at all. Bitch, moan and complain to your liberal friends if you still have any. Apply for foodstamps, disability etc even if you know you will be turned down. Keep them busy chasing their tails.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 5:41:03 AM PST by bergmeid
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position traditional conservatism as the only rational solution

Been thinking just the same, but the drumbeat of conservatism as solution is key. Use Cloward-Piven to drive people toward founding principles, while setting your personal life up to live Galt. I wonder if it can be done.

Certainly, too many people are apparently enjoying too good a life on backs of others. They will not change until life actually becomes quite uncomfortable. So, life in the freebee line must become uncomfortable.

18 posted on 11/07/2012 5:43:43 AM PST by JustSurrounded
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springtime means a 50cc scooter. no cycle tabs needed in MN, cheap on gas means less money to the gas tax and less $ for choo choo trains.


21 posted on 11/07/2012 5:49:57 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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springtime means a 50cc scooter. no cycle tabs needed in MN, cheap on gas means less money to the gas tax and less $ for choo choo trains.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 5:49:58 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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Great post, you took the words right out my mouth.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 5:50:26 AM PST by woodenickel
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bookmark


30 posted on 11/07/2012 6:00:43 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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Ping


38 posted on 11/07/2012 6:04:35 AM PST by Malios
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Patriot groups need to transition to prepper, barter, self defense groups. We need to concentrate our forces to be more effective essentially creating independent social and economic micro- societies.


43 posted on 11/07/2012 6:25:25 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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This guy figured it all out about 500 years ago. Will we finally heed his advice?

"Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces." - Étienne de La Boétie

I strongly suggest everyone here find this essay and read it.

I can tell you that truly "Going Galt" is very difficult. To make a long story short, I've been working on this for a few years. It's frustrating, lonely and often frightening. But worth it? Absolutely. No price is too high for the opportunity of ultimately being able to OWN MYSELF. Sorry, but there's no political solution to this. Voting is an excercise in futility. This should be obvious today.

45 posted on 11/07/2012 6:31:01 AM PST by pocat (In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant)
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I’m basically following this plan now. I’ve converted almost all my wealth into Roth IRA accounts, no taxes due ever again. Paid the taxes now, when rates will never be lower. The 2010 law that removed the income restrictions on Roth conversions (limits are still in place on contributions, but conversions are uncorked) is one of the greatest laws ever passed. So desperate for tax revenue today, the government is willing to rob from future tax revenues to get the money today. Combined with historically low current tax rates and you’ve got the perfect explotation opportunity to front-pay taxes now, rather than at the usurious rates that are sure to come in the future.

Upon retirement, even if you have six or seven figures in Roth accounts, your income will show up as zero on your 1040 tax form. With an income of zero, you qualify for all sorts of mooch money from do-gooder liberals. Remember, many government assistance benefits are calculated off your adjusted gross income from your 1040, not from your actual net worth. I have friends of mine now who are millionaires but get government assistance, because they have zero “income”, due to Roth sheltering. I think this past spring, there was a news story on some person in San Diego who had a beautiful beach house, but was getting food stamps or something similar. That is a perfect example of this strategy.

Why is this possible? Well, simple laziness on the government’s part. They don’t want to try and calculate your net worth. Since 95 percent of the workers in this country get a paycheck, or if retired, use traditional (taxable) IRAs and non-Roth 401k’s, the government can get a quick and easy snapshot of income just by referencing AGI from your 1040 tax form.

How about an example? What about a farmer’s widow, who has 800 acres of prime farm land (say, worth a million dollars), but who has little cash income, since farmers struggle to save for retirement and her husband left her very little money when he died? No good liberal will make her sell the family farm to pay her heating oil bill. They’ll verify she has no AGI and then cut her a check. If she has $800,000 in a Roth, they’ll be none the wiser.

Your mileage may vary, depending on your state, but check this out for yourself. My state (PA) has some give-away programs that have caught on and have started asking for AGI and also Roth withdrawal amounts for the most recent year, but many of them are still AGI-based. Get on the web and look up every program you can find for your state (e.g. assistance for home heating, prescription drugs, property tax relief, electric bill, etc.) and see what is available, to assess the viability of an “AGI=$0” strategy in your state.

Think of it as the 21st century equivalent of the 1960’s “Burn, baby, burn”.......


47 posted on 11/07/2012 7:00:15 AM PST by Panzerfaust
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59 posted on 11/07/2012 5:32:18 PM PST by tomkat ( <shrug>)
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