Skip to comments.Fox Exclusive: Security officials on the ground in Libya challenge CIA account
Posted on 11/03/2012 5:54:44 AM PDT by kristinn
Despite a carefully narrated version of events rolled out late this week by the CIA claiming agents jumped into action as soon as they were notified of calls for help in Benghazi, security officials on the ground say calls for help went out considerably earlier -- and signs of an attack were mounting even before that.
The accounts, from foreign and American security officials in and around Benghazi at the time of the attack, indicate there was in fact a significant lag between when the threat started to show itself and help started to arrive.
According to the CIA, the first calls for assistance came at 9:40 p.m. local time from a senior State Department official at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, to the CIA annex about a mile away.
But according to multiple people on the ground that night, the Blue Mountain Security manager, who was in charge of the local force hired to guard the consulate perimeter, made calls on both two-way radios and cell phones to colleagues in Benghazi warning of problems at least an hour earlier. Those calls allegedly went to local security contractors who say that the CIA annex was also notified much earlier than 9:40 p.m. U.S. military intelligence also told Fox News that armed militia was gathering up to three hours before the attack began.
One source said the Blue Mountain Security chief seemed "distraught" and said "the situation here is very serious, we have a problem." He also said that even without these phone and radio calls, it was clear to everyone in the security community on the ground in Benghazi much earlier than 9:40 p.m. that fighters were gathering in preparation for an attack.
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This Fox report is damning....
And the Administration’s response had about as much to do with “INCOMPETENCE” as Fast and Furious had to do with “BOTCHED.”
There was no incompetence involved. There were only deliberate actions and non-actions.
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 11, 2012
SECRETARY HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
12:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton meets with Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and National Security Adviser Tom Donilon, at the White House.
It’s entirely possible they knew by the time of this meeting what was going on in Benghazi on 9/11.
Timeline moved back. Keyworded your previous thread and other related articles with the word benghaziwitnesses.
At 4:20 p.m., State Department executive secretary Steve Mull alerted Mrs. Clinton in her office. According to a person present, (snip)
And she said: “Find Chris,” the U.S. ambassador. She had handpicked him for the posting.
BTW: Outstanding interview, Matt
All: Podcast link
If the facts don't fit, you must convict.
Petraeuss Quieter Style at C.I.A. Leaves Void on Libya Furor
Fox News must not allow this story to die, just as those four American citizens were betrayed to their death.
People need to be tried for treason, and people need to go to jail. This should be one of the first priorities of President Romney, and we must hold his feet to the fire until every single person who knew, did nothing, or was complicit in the cover-up is held accountable.
This is similar to what I have been posting here off and on for several weeks. Others such as yourself have made posts citing credible evidence. I have just been speculating.
My initial reaction was that this was the botched “October Surprise” that was meant to take the attention of voters away from the sad state of the economy. The "bad guys" would hold Christopher Stevens until a week or so before the election and then a heroic rescue would be made. The problem was that in their attempt to smoke him out of the “safe” room the attackers killed him.
To me this would appear to be a classic botched evil Obama plan. It is like the whole birth certificate controversy; they think that they are smarter than everyone else, but they can't even produce a decent forgery of the long form. But the media has given him a free pass on everything. Once again their gross incompetence have resulted in the deaths of brave Americans... fortunately not as many as when the Seal Team helicopter was shot down after Obama outed them for political gain.
Obama is not just incompetent his actions appear to be treacherous in the most extreme manner possible. To me it appears that he and a number of collaborators should be facing prosecution.
I KNOW what Patreaus is and I know what the President is, and they BOTH said it was because of the VIDEO!!!!!enough said.....two peas in a pod.
By definition, if the team is held up for three hours at the airport, they are no longer covert and probably never were.
I have to leave the computer for perhaps an hour...
Someone nominate Jennifer Griffin for the Nobel and Pulitzer
This whole sordid, sad, tragic affair has proven one thing. The only reasonably valid source of national/international news right now is FOX. Despite the protestations of the marxists...I know people make fun of ‘fair and balanced’ - but what are we to say of the Corrupt Media after this travesty? Should their motto be ‘unfair and imbalanced, ‘cause we lick Obama’s boots?’
The Corrupt Media has to be the most corrupt institution on earth, other than the Fed/Bankstas.
“there is no valid reason to disclose specifics about our capabilities and their purpose”
They reported they were ‘in the area.’ That’s no big revelation to our enemies. It may be a revelation to most Rats that are covering for Team Obama however. The buck stops where Obama?
What the White House naïvely bought into IN ADVANCE was a scheme to allow Amb. Stevens to be kidnapped and held for ransom.
Obama and Valerie Jarret desperately wanted to show Obama as the Master Negotiator, a mensch capable of doing what even the Great Jimmy Carter couldn't: successfully redeem hostages from muslims, and just in time for the election.
As an added bonus, it would provide the all the cover needed to release the Blind Sheik and all the "political" prisoners from Gitmo.
I believe Bronco and Val were astonished when the scorpion stung them in mid-river.
That they were so (dare I say it?) UNEXPECTEDLY betrayed caught them so utterly flat-footed that they still haven't come up with a good cover story!
Just one old, tired and cynical guy's opinion, of course.
Cite one demonstrable fact that says it isn't true, if you can...
That general concept of an explanation of the poop-storm that was Benghazi has been rattling around for a month-or-so.
I have no means of disputing any of it, or even of saying “That doesn’t sound right”.
The traditional punishment for treason is the gallows, not imprisonment.
“I KNOW what Patreaus is and I know what the President is, and they BOTH said it was because of the VIDEO!!!!!enough said.....two peas in a pod.”
The moment Petraeus became CIA Director, I knew what he was and what he represented. I even question his past record now.
You would have to be a certain “type” of person to work for Obama.
According to Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-UT03, General Ham was still very much in command, as of 1 October, when the two of them traveled together from AFRICOM HQ in Stuttgart to Libya.
“This should be one of the first priorities of President Romney, and we must hold his feet to the fire until every single person who knew, did nothing, or was complicit in the cover-up is held accountable.”
And the very fact that the Corrupted Media knew of the glaring problems in the truth narrative, the drip, drip, drip and did nothing to help Fox and the blogosphere (and the Benghazi witnesses), is enough to impugn what remains of their tiny, tattered reputation for professionalism and objectivity.
The Corrupted Media are (should be) done, over, finished, TOAST in the Court of public opinion.
As it was the only two fatalities there were due to smoke inhalation. I've seen pictures of the rescue vehicle with consultate people standing around during the 'attack' as if there is no incoming fire.
The two SEALs, having driven to the consulate and back, were killed at the CIA annex, which WAS under fire.
And, forgot to add, and to your point, I think President Romney will pursue this in only because the media/TOTUS feigned so much horror that he brought it forward to begin with - to prove them totally wrong.
I’ve been thinking (and saying) Jarrett is up to her neck and then some in this disaster. One day the truth will out - I think a charge of ‘treason’ would suit her well.
From your keyboard to God’s ears. Amen.
Network of Evil. Mapping the Islamic Brigades from Benghazi to Syria.
Thanks for dropping that point on here.
I want to know where the armed drones were kept, that were used to monitor Ghadaffi’s chemical weapons sites - in Libya, or outside Libya?
If they had armed drones in Libya then I believe somebody needs to be charged with murder outright.
I could feel my blood pressure rising as I read this article. If this wasn’t so serious, the US would be the laughingstock among nations, including our allies, over this. As it is, it’s got to be horrific to anybody who depends on the US as an ally.
The only thing upholding the Obama regime in the midst of all this is the treasonous silence of the so-called “news media”. But then, I heard an interview of an award-winning CNN journalist who said that CNN is paid by governments to publish their own propaganda under the cover of CNN’s supposed credibility as a news organization. The same thing that Saddam Hussein did, and CNN is still up to the same dirty crap they did with Saddam.
Of course, the real fools are the people who put up with this. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. But most people don’t know about CNN’s treason with Saddam and won’t listen to anybody who tells them about what’s going on now either.
I am so glad that there are some reporters getting the scoop from eyewitnesses. If they are willing to come forward in an investigation, the truth about the CIA, State Department, military, and White House coverup will be exposed as well as the truth about what happened that day and in the run-up to that day.
According to a former award-winning CNN journalist (I need to look again so I remember her name), the Department of Homeland Security is being used as a weapon to silence the media. The NSA records phone conversations between journalists pursuing regime-harmful stories and their sources and the Obama regime also prosecutes to force journalists to reveal their sources in the name of “homeland security”. This means that journalists know they are putting their sources in danger if they pursue stories harmful to the regime. And they are putting their media company in a position to need to spend mega bucks defending the right to keep sources confidential. This gal says that everybody she worked with at CNN was fuming about that.
Good find. That does seem to answer the question going around. It’s a great article on the whole. The author asks some very good questions.
This article states that the General did not attend the funeral, because the CIA involement was secret. ????????
Didn’t we FReepers know within 24 hrs. that the annex was for CIA operations? Do they really think that just because they don’t officially acknowledge something, it is secret?
Brought up initially by Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani
Then the article had this paragraph:
But the parade of high-profile surrogates who opened for the candidate fixated on another, more explosive issue one with a particular power to both animate conservatives, and frighten Romney's senior staff. For about 60 minutes before Romney took the stage, Topic A was Libya.
David Petraeus, your political skirt is showing... maybe your not the man most of us thought your were...
Giuliani needs to be front & center talking about this every day when & wherever he can.
He should be a visible & auditory link between Sept 11, 2001 and Sept 11, 2012.
Can’t ya just see the 10 or so of them, standing around in their Bermuda shorts & cameras around their necks?
That’s the most plausible explanation I’ve seen of their reactions to what happened. Makes perfect sense.
Are you old and tired? That’s my kinda guy! ;-)
Officers take an oath to defend the constitution and that oath doesn’t disolve with retirement. Any oath he might have taken to run the CIA cannot supercede the original. He has ZERO authority to follow an order he might know to be illegal and abandoning US Gov’t employees would sure get close to being illegal, not to mention extra-constitutional. He MUST explain himself soon because he’s losing me fast.——————————————————————————————————————————————————— Just to underline the point: He took his appointment from a democrat president who he knew was trying to cut his own military and who he knew was crooked as hell. He didn’t have to retire when he did-—could have waited a couple more years. While he seemed to be a competent officer he has a ways to go to prove himself in any other area. He now has his chance and the job carries a pass-or-fail grade.———————————————————————————————————————————————————————————Watch for new stars on the wall at Langley, CIA HQ. That will tell us how many of the folks we lost at Benghazi were actually CIA?
nope you got it...and since you used the scorpion analogy...all I can say is...’it is the middle east’
And maybe by taking the CIA job, he thought he could be part of the solution by cleaning things up and strengthening from the inside.
The man is a patriot. Patriots serve their country no matter who is in charge.
He should get the benefit of the doubt until the facts all come out.
AMEN!!! NO DECENT person would EVER work for Obama....NONE!!!! Patreaus is a HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT!!!
OMG!! We are being LIED to in EVERY direction!!!
Can Petraeus be tried for lying to the American people? He should at least be impeached. The CIA is not supposed to give out secrets. But they’re not supposed to make up lies to U.S. either.
Greta had Jason Chaffetz on after the latest leaks and after the classified documents were found in Benghazi. She pressed him repeatedly to denounce Obama over the content of the docs but he refused and only discussed unclassified memos that had been leaked to the media. Same with McCain. Greta couldn't get him to discuss any classified information and I believe that includes any discussion of the existence of the CIA "annex" in Benghazi.
That is why Romney has been so quiet, IMO. Think of how hard he would be hammered if he broke his sworn oath to keep all classified docs secret! Holder might even try to arrest him! Surrogates who don't receive the briefings, like Giuliani, aren't subject to any such restrictions so last night and today he has been hammering Obama.
Let’s also keep in mind that Libya is 6 hours ahead of DC. The WH knew about this at 3:40 or so in the afternoon.
I’ve had people use the 9:40PM angle on me like the world was all set to a single timezone. It wasn’t like Obama went to bed and things deteriorated.
1) this was not a real consulate according to sources.
2) my idea that Stevens was deliberately set up for death is backed by the statement here that the armed drones which NORMALLY fly over the chemical weapons depots were NOT flying that night. Was someone afraid they might be used?
Possibly. Hes also a man who follows orders - if his CIC gave an order, hes obliged to obey.
No he’s not. He could obey his conscience instead and quit, and have a press conference explaining why.
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