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Exasperation builds on Day 3 in storm-stricken NYC
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 11/1/12 | LEANNE ITALIE and MEGHAN BARR

Posted on 11/01/2012 6:13:53 PM PDT by Kartographer

In darkened neighborhoods, people walked around with miner's lamps on their foreheads and bicycle lights clipped to shoulder bags and, in at least one case, to a dog's collar. A Manhattan handyman opened a fire hydrant so people could collect water to flush toilets. "You can clearly tell at the office, or even walking down the street, who has power and who doesn't," said Jordan Spiro, who lives in the blackout zone. "New Yorkers may not be known as the friendliest bunch, but take away their ability to shower and communicate and you'll see how disgruntled they can get."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: humannature; perparedness; preparedness; preppers; prepping
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To: Marcella
If you're talking about mounting the spare tire it doesn't require much strength if you have a good lug wrench Just need someone to show you how to do it. Half the time it is more difficult to find the jack as they tend to be hidden in the vehicle than it is to remove the old and mount the new wheel.
81 posted on 11/01/2012 9:56:12 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture tm)
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To: Marcella

We were without power for over two weeks, after Ike. Not fun! I left town, with the kids, while hubby held down the fort with the (small) generator we had, at the time.


83 posted on 11/01/2012 9:57:11 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
People burning candles in high-rises. I can't believe people aren't talking about the fire danger.

Agreed.
84 posted on 11/01/2012 9:57:36 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
As a kid, I picked up Indian flint arrowheads in my neighborhood. Also took a geology course in college and that's where I learned interesting things about rocks like those with fracture points to make cutting edges.

At the end of the green sapling, I'd cut a small space, really a small split, to fit the arrowhead type cutting edge. Then, I'd take green vine and wrap the edge in there and get pine sap and melt it in the fire and slather that around the vine everywhere so it would shrink and get hard so the arrowhead would be solid in there. After it was cool so it would be hardened, give it to the stupid kid you mentioned to stick it in a feral pig. Then, you would cook it.

85 posted on 11/01/2012 9:58:08 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: JimC214
Yeah, those threads about the Texas wildfires, and the Colorado wildfires... wait...

Face it. It's different in NYC. Those guys get the attention, they get to whine, and mostly, out here in fly over country, no-one spends too much time whining because they are busy.

No flame, but compare and contrast to a disaster that the president wouldn't give a disaster declaration on, because he didn't like the state.

/johnny

86 posted on 11/01/2012 9:59:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Gator113

Perhaps they’re waiting for the cannibalism to begin.”

I used to think that was funny!!


87 posted on 11/01/2012 10:01:55 PM PDT by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: Marcella
I was thinking more of a fire-hardened wood spear, but your method works as well.

Dried and smashed rabbit backstrap works better for binding material (it's sorta like nylon and epoxy), and you don't need the sap, just water and fire, but I did say field expedient.

There's more than one way to skin a cat. As I said, it's more about attitude and skillsets than stuff.

I did notice that you didn't do much but supervise in that scenario. And I still get stuck cooking...

/johnny

88 posted on 11/01/2012 10:07:15 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“I did notice that you didn’t do much but supervise in that scenario. And I still get stuck cooking...”

I made the spear, the kid stuck the pig, you cooked it. That’s the Little Red Hen story actually working.


89 posted on 11/01/2012 10:12:50 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: steve86

“Half the time it is more difficult to find the jack as they tend to be hidden in the vehicle than it is to remove the old and mount the new wheel.”

Hmm, this is a fairly new car and I don’t know where any of that is in the trunk. The tire is sitting in a well made for it with a cover over it. The husband of my sister-in-law will be here Thanksgiving and I’ll have him take that area apart so we can find those things. Better for him to lift the tire than me to lift it. In an emergency, I’d lift it, of course.


90 posted on 11/01/2012 10:18:15 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: Marcella
Hmm, this is a fairly new car and I don’t know where any of that is in the trunk. The tire is sitting in a well made for it with a cover over it.

The owner's manual should have instructions and location pictures in it. You can grab the book out of the glovebox and read it tonight.

You have a piece of equipment. Read the Tech Order. Even if you never have to use the info.

Hands on to see where it is in real life is good, too.

/johnny

91 posted on 11/01/2012 10:23:19 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
No argument there. I Have family in Texas and Colorado. This guy needs to be booted out of office. He makes Carter look competent. And as for the NY press, it is and always will be shameless and use less. If this was Bush in charge, all you would hear is why he isn't doing some thing. Not one of the MSM is asking Bloomie, why is it you are having a Marathon and a concert, but where are all the self powered lights that you bought for the NYPD to fight crime. The city has quite a few of what they call portable watch towers that have lights capable of lighting up a large area. They also have portable Generators that they were given during 911. There is a were house over in Greenpoint Brklyn which has a large amount of emergency supplies that were donated from 911 and FEMA which I have not seen given out. The Dept of Sanitation also has a branch designed to respond to disasters and I don't see one of the trucks out there, only the FELs from the local districts. So what is going on? Ask the MSM and wait for an answer, just don't hold your breath.
92 posted on 11/01/2012 10:25:44 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: JRandomFreeper

OH! The Owner’s Manual - imagine that - what a break-through! I’ll look at that tomorrow.


93 posted on 11/01/2012 10:27:50 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: Marcella
Follow through with the hands on with your BIL, though. Book larnin is one thing, doin it, that a whole nother.

/johnny

94 posted on 11/01/2012 10:39:05 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JimC214
JimC14, if anyone flames you, I'll douse you with water to put it out! I'll even make sure it doesn't contain gasoline, high levels of bacteria and other patently unhealthy things as a recent lab report of NYC flood water revealed.

http://abcnewsradioonline.com/health-news/sewage-bacteria-gasoline-found-in-nyc-floodwater.html

Yeah, gotta wonder what the Super Freepers would do if they had to splash through that putrid muck and had a cut or cracked skin anywhere to allow the muck to "work". Start culturing moldy bread to make their own penicillin?

95 posted on 11/01/2012 10:39:54 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC
moldy bread

Penicillin was actually eventually derived from mold on a cantaloupe.

Some of us old freepers have actually slogged around in putrid muck. It's not happy making time, but if you have a brain, and keep your wits about you, you can come out the other side.

/johnny

96 posted on 11/01/2012 10:46:27 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: EinNYC
Yeah, gotta wonder what the Super Freepers would do if they had to splash through that putrid muck and had a cut or cracked skin anywhere to allow the muck to "work".

As a big city plumber, do you think that I have been in muck and city sewers with open cuts in my time? It isn't exactly the end of the world, wading through water tainted with some of it, sure isn't the end of the world.

97 posted on 11/01/2012 11:19:20 PM PDT by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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To: driftdiver
One thing we haven’t seen is any mobs headed to the burbs. Maybe it hasn’t occurred to them yet.

You mean WALK?! Are you crazy??!!

98 posted on 11/01/2012 11:48:59 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The three days thing is a bit dated - here in Seattle they push for 7 days due to the high risk of a devastating earthquake. I told the head emergency guy in our local fire department that was good - but 3-4 weeks is more like it for us suburbs. All of the energy will be focused on Seattle (basically landlocked as you can only get in/out over bridges which will be destroyed).

Even getting to the suburbs will be tough, but Seattle will be the focus.

He gave me an understanding nod, and said “Well, some folks think we are overdoing it with 7 days - and they would just not do anything if it was more”.


99 posted on 11/02/2012 12:07:00 AM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: steve86

No, I’m talking about replacing the tire and rim with the spare and rim.


100 posted on 11/02/2012 1:39:41 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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