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1 posted on 11/01/2012 5:01:58 PM PDT by maggief
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2 posted on 11/01/2012 5:04:18 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief
... the safety of those who were preparing to respond was also an important consideration.

But, piss on the guys, including our ambassador, being attacked! Didn't worry about their safety!!

3 posted on 11/01/2012 5:11:54 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: maggief

You mean it wasn’t a random protest of a video?

Washington did not offer any assistance at all. Our guys in Libya were totally on their own. The QRF was already in Libya. They were part of the same team. No one from outside was sent to help. Our cowards in DC left them to fight their own way out. They sent them there. And left them. They even had to charter their own air transport. Now I know the CIA has access to plenty airplanes and such. And you can’t tell me we only had one pilot among the bunch because Glen Doherty could fly.

But I like how they are coming up with yet another version of what happened.


4 posted on 11/01/2012 5:12:13 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: maggief
So CNN, no name for this Senior [Obama appointed] official?

that said officials within the CIA chain of command denied repeated requests from its officers on the ground to assist during the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi.

Uummmm ...so called senior Obama official, the "stand down" orders came from somewhere else outside of the CIA. Your obfuscation is not going to work.

"There were no orders to anybody to stand down in providing support," the official said.

Not jiving of what is known or what Beck says he knows.

Glenn Beck to Media Outlets Sitting on Damning Benghazi Emails: Release Them or Be Exposed

5 posted on 11/01/2012 5:15:31 PM PDT by Red Steel
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A senior U.S. Intelligence official

I want a name. Who is this? Come on, CNN! This is crap!

8 posted on 11/01/2012 5:18:08 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Put me down for 350+)
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"............while others were on the phone trying to get local "friendly" militias with heavier weapons to help."

While I'm sure that the CIA and the "Defense" Dept. (How is the Commerce Dept. not the Business Dept. that the b0z0 Bronco Bama claims to desire?) are rarely on the same page, why not try to get them to promptly put some of their their wicked assets on site?

9 posted on 11/01/2012 5:19:58 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: maggief

Okay, I already have questions abou this timeline:

The timeline:

–Around 9:40pm (local time) the Annex receives the first call that the Mission is under attack.

–Fewer than 25 minutes later, a security team leaves the Annex for the Mission.

____ What ‘security team’? How many?

–Over the next 25 minutes the team members approach the compound, attempt to secure heavy weapons, and make their way onto the compound in the face of enemy fire.

____ What do they mean by “attempt to secure heavy weapons”. From the attackers? Or their own?

–At 11:11pm the requested drone surveillance arrives over the Mission compound.

____ What was the drone supposed to be doing? Why did they request it? What did they want it to do?

–By 11:30pm all US personnel, except for US Ambassador Stevens who was missing, depart the Mission. The exiting vehicles come under fire.

____ How did they depart? How many vehicles? How many people?

–Over the next roughly 90 minutes, the Annex receives sporadic small arms fire and rocket propelled grenade rounds. The security team returns fire and the attackers disperse at approx 1am.

____ Okay, was the CIA annex being fired on while the “securtiy team” was over a the Mission? If so, who was left behind to defend? How many? Or did the firing resume once the “security team and Mission personell got back?

–At about the same time a team of additional security personnel lands at the Benghazi airport and negotiates for transport into town. Upon learning the Ambassador was missing and that the situation at the Annex had calmed the team focused on locating the Ambassador and tried to obtain information on the security situation at the hospital.

–It’s still pre-dawn when the team at the airport finally manages to secure transportation and an armed escort. Having learned that the Ambassador was almost certainly dead and that the security situation at the hospital was uncertain the team heads to the Annex to assist with the evacuation.

–They arrive with Libyan support at the Annex at 5:15am, just before the mortar rounds begin to hit the Annex. The two security officers were killed when they took direct mortar fire as they engaged the enemy. That attack lasted only 11 minutes before dissipating

___ Okay, these “additional security personell” did they join in the defense of the annex or where they only getting others out? Was it just Doherty and Woods who were providing cover for the evacuation?

–Less than an hour later a heavily-armed Libyan military unit arrived to help evacuate the compound of all US personnel.

___ So it was a Libyan team who eventually evacuated the Annex? What happened during that hour (remember previously they said the mortar attack lasted 11 minutes. what happened in between those times?


11 posted on 11/01/2012 5:24:38 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: maggief

Okay, I already have questions abou this timeline:

The timeline:

–Around 9:40pm (local time) the Annex receives the first call that the Mission is under attack.

–Fewer than 25 minutes later, a security team leaves the Annex for the Mission.

____ What ‘security team’? How many?

–Over the next 25 minutes the team members approach the compound, attempt to secure heavy weapons, and make their way onto the compound in the face of enemy fire.

____ What do they mean by “attempt to secure heavy weapons”. From the attackers? Or their own?

–At 11:11pm the requested drone surveillance arrives over the Mission compound.

____ What was the drone supposed to be doing? Why did they request it? What did they want it to do?

–By 11:30pm all US personnel, except for US Ambassador Stevens who was missing, depart the Mission. The exiting vehicles come under fire.

____ How did they depart? How many vehicles? How many people?

–Over the next roughly 90 minutes, the Annex receives sporadic small arms fire and rocket propelled grenade rounds. The security team returns fire and the attackers disperse at approx 1am.

____ Okay, was the CIA annex being fired on while the “securtiy team” was over a the Mission? If so, who was left behind to defend? How many? Or did the firing resume once the “security team and Mission personell got back?

–At about the same time a team of additional security personnel lands at the Benghazi airport and negotiates for transport into town. Upon learning the Ambassador was missing and that the situation at the Annex had calmed the team focused on locating the Ambassador and tried to obtain information on the security situation at the hospital.

–It’s still pre-dawn when the team at the airport finally manages to secure transportation and an armed escort. Having learned that the Ambassador was almost certainly dead and that the security situation at the hospital was uncertain the team heads to the Annex to assist with the evacuation.

–They arrive with Libyan support at the Annex at 5:15am, just before the mortar rounds begin to hit the Annex. The two security officers were killed when they took direct mortar fire as they engaged the enemy. That attack lasted only 11 minutes before dissipating

___ Okay, these “additional security personell” did they join in the defense of the annex or where they only getting others out? Was it just Doherty and Woods who were providing cover for the evacuation?

–Less than an hour later a heavily-armed Libyan military unit arrived to help evacuate the compound of all US personnel.

___ So it was a Libyan team who eventually evacuated the Annex? What happened during that hour (remember previously they said the mortar attack lasted 11 minutes. what happened in between those times?


12 posted on 11/01/2012 5:25:22 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: maggief

Okay, I already have questions abou this timeline:

The timeline:

–Around 9:40pm (local time) the Annex receives the first call that the Mission is under attack.

–Fewer than 25 minutes later, a security team leaves the Annex for the Mission.

____ What ‘security team’? How many?

–Over the next 25 minutes the team members approach the compound, attempt to secure heavy weapons, and make their way onto the compound in the face of enemy fire.

____ What do they mean by “attempt to secure heavy weapons”. From the attackers? Or their own?

–At 11:11pm the requested drone surveillance arrives over the Mission compound.

____ What was the drone supposed to be doing? Why did they request it? What did they want it to do?

–By 11:30pm all US personnel, except for US Ambassador Stevens who was missing, depart the Mission. The exiting vehicles come under fire.

____ How did they depart? How many vehicles? How many people?

–Over the next roughly 90 minutes, the Annex receives sporadic small arms fire and rocket propelled grenade rounds. The security team returns fire and the attackers disperse at approx 1am.

____ Okay, was the CIA annex being fired on while the “securtiy team” was over a the Mission? If so, who was left behind to defend? How many? Or did the firing resume once the “security team and Mission personell got back?

–At about the same time a team of additional security personnel lands at the Benghazi airport and negotiates for transport into town. Upon learning the Ambassador was missing and that the situation at the Annex had calmed the team focused on locating the Ambassador and tried to obtain information on the security situation at the hospital.

–It’s still pre-dawn when the team at the airport finally manages to secure transportation and an armed escort. Having learned that the Ambassador was almost certainly dead and that the security situation at the hospital was uncertain the team heads to the Annex to assist with the evacuation.

–They arrive with Libyan support at the Annex at 5:15am, just before the mortar rounds begin to hit the Annex. The two security officers were killed when they took direct mortar fire as they engaged the enemy. That attack lasted only 11 minutes before dissipating

___ Okay, these “additional security personell” did they join in the defense of the annex or where they only getting others out? Was it just Doherty and Woods who were providing cover for the evacuation?

–Less than an hour later a heavily-armed Libyan military unit arrived to help evacuate the compound of all US personnel.

___ So it was a Libyan team who eventually evacuated the Annex? What happened during that hour (remember previously they said the mortar attack lasted 11 minutes. what happened in between those times?


13 posted on 11/01/2012 5:27:20 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: maggief

Okay, I already have questions abou this timeline:

The timeline:

–Around 9:40pm (local time) the Annex receives the first call that the Mission is under attack.

–Fewer than 25 minutes later, a security team leaves the Annex for the Mission.

____ What ‘security team’? How many?

–Over the next 25 minutes the team members approach the compound, attempt to secure heavy weapons, and make their way onto the compound in the face of enemy fire.

____ What do they mean by “attempt to secure heavy weapons”. From the attackers? Or their own?

–At 11:11pm the requested drone surveillance arrives over the Mission compound.

____ What was the drone supposed to be doing? Why did they request it? What did they want it to do?

–By 11:30pm all US personnel, except for US Ambassador Stevens who was missing, depart the Mission. The exiting vehicles come under fire.

____ How did they depart? How many vehicles? How many people?

–Over the next roughly 90 minutes, the Annex receives sporadic small arms fire and rocket propelled grenade rounds. The security team returns fire and the attackers disperse at approx 1am.

____ Okay, was the CIA annex being fired on while the “securtiy team” was over a the Mission? If so, who was left behind to defend? How many? Or did the firing resume once the “security team and Mission personell got back?

–At about the same time a team of additional security personnel lands at the Benghazi airport and negotiates for transport into town. Upon learning the Ambassador was missing and that the situation at the Annex had calmed the team focused on locating the Ambassador and tried to obtain information on the security situation at the hospital.

–It’s still pre-dawn when the team at the airport finally manages to secure transportation and an armed escort. Having learned that the Ambassador was almost certainly dead and that the security situation at the hospital was uncertain the team heads to the Annex to assist with the evacuation.

–They arrive with Libyan support at the Annex at 5:15am, just before the mortar rounds begin to hit the Annex. The two security officers were killed when they took direct mortar fire as they engaged the enemy. That attack lasted only 11 minutes before dissipating

___ Okay, these “additional security personell” did they join in the defense of the annex or where they only getting others out? Was it just Doherty and Woods who were providing cover for the evacuation?

–Less than an hour later a heavily-armed Libyan military unit arrived to help evacuate the compound of all US personnel.

___ So it was a Libyan team who eventually evacuated the Annex? What happened during that hour (remember previously they said the mortar attack lasted 11 minutes. what happened in between those times?


17 posted on 11/01/2012 5:34:58 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: maggief

In a takeoff of an old saying,

“Who you gonna believe about a lack of security and no rescue: our words or those dead Americans?”


18 posted on 11/01/2012 5:38:36 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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SEAL Team 6 Loss, Part II

1 party is sent.

That may appeal to the left-wing minimalist policy wonks, but it’s not any kind of a good tactical response, expecting 1 vector of attack to work.

Obama had all kinds of power at his hands, that could have been applied from Italy, from Sicily, and from International Waters.

But the leftist media want your eyes on the CIA birdy.

The “party” from Tripoli were sent to NEGOTIATE a rescue effort, “from the evidence.”


20 posted on 11/01/2012 5:40:19 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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I think the WHITE HOUSE Has put out talking points, this, an ABC, Washington Post and also Hampton Roads http://hamptonroads.com/2012/11/officials-insist-cia-didnt-delay-libya-rescue-effort
All saying the same thing......
Glad they are so transparent


23 posted on 11/01/2012 5:50:51 PM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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Now wait just a cotton picking minute here.

This is the same CNN offering a different timeline as the CNN which reported 'acquiring' the Libyan Ambassador's 'diary' from the site of the terrorist attack, after hiding it for days, and then defended their report after Hillary's state dept. condemned CNN report?

25 posted on 11/01/2012 5:54:16 PM PDT by wtd
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Laughable, were it not so serious.

This is unconscionable covering up and more lying for the Marxist. Their source is no source at all, save for a flunkie at the WH.


27 posted on 11/01/2012 6:00:48 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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No wonder Romney didn't want to step into it in the last debate. Team Obama are crapping all over themselves each time a new version of the Benghazi narrative evolves.

The Benghazi narrative keeps evolving so much that it is about to evolve into a pigs that can fly.



pics on Sodahead

28 posted on 11/01/2012 6:10:48 PM PDT by TomGuy
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"There were no orders to anybody to stand down in providing support," the official said.

IOWs - THERE WAS NO ORDER TO SEND A RESCUE TEAM!

30 posted on 11/01/2012 6:37:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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So what about some backup for the 2 brave Marines who died trying to save the people there? Mr. CIA guy, you are weaving an ever complex web of lies and it will all come out eventually. All that remains is just how much culpability you and others in the CIA will have for the lies and misconduct that has already been committed. It is pretty much obvious that Obama made unwise decisions in this instance to avoid a situation that might cost him the election. Now that the big lie has been discovered, it seems the cover-up, like always, is bigger than the original mistake. Honestly, I think the democrats are going to get blown out Tuesday like they never imagined. I can only hope that new leadership will have the drive to get to the bottom of this and to prosecute and penalize any and all who are complicit. Heads need to roll in this, some literally, if treason is proven.


33 posted on 11/01/2012 6:40:21 PM PDT by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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” - - - and the safety of those who were preparing to respond was also an important consideration.”

IOW, this is CIA code for STAND DOWN!

Mother Hen in DC wants everybody that is safe to stay safe.

Safety comes first. It is in the Axelrod Manual in the chapter on Safe Re-elections, page 666.


38 posted on 11/01/2012 7:17:13 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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From the liberal’s wet dream fiction movie:

BRADLEE’S OFFICE. SIMONS sits across from BRADLEE as ROSENFELD
enters quietly with a bundle of teletype paper.

SIMONS
(indicating the papers)
More denunciations?

ROSENFELD
(nods)
One Senator just gave a speech
slurring us 57 times in 20 minutes.

BRADLEE has started typing something brief. When ROSENFELD’s
done, so is he. He hands it to SIMONS.

SIMONS
What’s this?

BRADLEE
My non-denial denial.

ROSENFELD
We’re not printing a retraction?

CUT TO:

CLOSE UP—BRADLEE. He is thoughtful for a while. Then,
spinning around, staring out towards the newsroom:

BRADLEE
Fuck it, let’s stand by the boys.

And he stands, spins out of the room


39 posted on 11/01/2012 7:27:46 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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