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Hurricane Sandy Live Thread II
NOAA/NHC & Various ^ | 10/29/2012 | NOAA/NHC & Various

Posted on 10/29/2012 10:21:35 AM PDT by NautiNurse

Late season Hurricane Sandy approaching the Eastern U.S. coast.


Sea Surface Temps

Public Advisories

NHC Tropical Discussions

Satellite Images

Local Radar & Weather: Wunderground Severe Wx Northeast
Philadelphia/New Jersey Current Wx
Delaware: Dover Air Force Base Current Wx
New York: Long Island Current Wx

Buoy Data: Current Observations

Mt. Holly NJ NWS Briefing Package for Hurricane Sandy (pdf file)

Hurricane Sandy Live Thread I


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: hurricane; hurricanesandy; sandy; storm; tropical
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To: Betis70

Several inches of snow has fallen with blizzard warning in Showshoe, WV.


361 posted on 10/29/2012 6:16:30 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Barack Obama--you are the weakest link. Goodbye!)
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To: nutmeg

3.5 million without power across eleven states.


362 posted on 10/29/2012 6:17:24 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Barack Obama--you are the weakest link. Goodbye!)
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To: mfccinsd

See my post...#311. My guess is that Chatham (same county) is similar to what we have been experiencing here. Biggest risk there is downed power lines and trees..should be no flooding...


363 posted on 10/29/2012 6:20:23 PM PDT by usafa92 (Conservative in Jersey)
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To: InMemoriam

Listening to the scanner is interesting - and crazy.

NYFD rescuing folks from water in the streets. LOTS of calls of people stuck in elevators. Sorry, but shouldn’t they know to use the stairs when the risk of electrical outage is high?


364 posted on 10/29/2012 6:21:44 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: 21twelve

Head a call for heavy smoke in a subway somewhere.


365 posted on 10/29/2012 6:23:48 PM PDT by matt04
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To: JouleZ
...help is on the way regarding power outages. Passed at least 15 or more bright orange trucks today on I-40 with buckets and drills for setting electric poles while we drove through Arkansas. I’m just guessing they are on their way to the East coast...

Heard on the local DFW news during a Hannity break, that Texas already has crews on the way. It's what Americans do when other Americans are hurting.

God Bless America!

366 posted on 10/29/2012 6:23:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 21twelve

“heavy smoke condition in subway”


367 posted on 10/29/2012 6:24:48 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: NautiNurse
"Shep Smith reporting Brooklyn Battery Tunnel is flooding."

Ya think so, Shep?!?!! Take a look.



Hurricane Sandy VIDEO High Water waves breaches promenade at Manhattan's Battery Park
368 posted on 10/29/2012 6:25:19 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: NautiNurse

We don’t know the extent of the damage yet, but it is already clear that this may be worse than most of us expected.

There’s trouble all over, and I don’t want to downplay the damage in other areas. But it looks to me that the damage to New York City might turn out to be much worse than most of us expected.

Here are a few astounding facts:
* The storm surge is already higher than the peak predicted a few hours ago, and far higher than the previous record.
* The Brooklyn Battery tunnel is flooding.
* Supposedly, ALL main line subway tunnels are flooding.
* Fires are burning in some subway tunnels.
* The water is still rising, and the high water may last through tomorrow’s high tide as well.

It seems almost certain that this much water will flood ALL of the underground utilities in the areas with visible standing surface water, and this will spread via the underground tunnels to other areas without visible water on the surface.

Supposedly, if the tunnels all fill with water, pumping them out will take FOUR days. I have no idea how long it will take to repair the infrastructure inside them once they’ve been pumped out, but you can bet it will take a long time.

In other words, New York City’s utilities in the flooded areas will be utterly trashed. Fixing them will be very slow. It’s easy to see how it could take much longer than anyone anticipated before the storm.

So, given this extraordinary situation, what will happen to the water supply? The sewage system? How will people in high rises get water to drink, and what will they do for waste disposal?

Right now, anyway, the city is nearly cut off. How will it be resupplied with food? How will people who wish to leave get out?

And the million dollar question: How will people behave if they have no water? No food? No power? No police?

I doubt this will hit New York City as hard as Katrina hit New Orleans, but right now it looks like recovery from this will NOT be like anything New York has had to recover from before.


369 posted on 10/29/2012 6:26:15 PM PDT by EternalHope (Politicians will always let you down. -- Sarah Palin)
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To: NautiNurse

Someone may have reported this already, but the Hudson has flooded Tenth Avenue in Chelsea. Manhattan is basically underwater from 23rd Street south and the water is reported to be moving fast. Transformers exploding all over Manhattan. People losing power in the thirties. The lobbies of Peter Cooper Village are flooded (a large housing complex in the East Twenties). I am getting this by cellphone from friends around the city.


370 posted on 10/29/2012 6:26:26 PM PDT by firebrand (Beware of wishful thinking--the mousetrap of small minds.)
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To: PA Engineer

I was most worried about storm surge on the coast and the heavy snow in the Appalachians.

Prayers for everyone.


371 posted on 10/29/2012 6:28:14 PM PDT by Betis70 ("Leading from Behind" gets your Ambassador killed)
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To: NoGrayZone
checkin' up on ya ping

water under the door yet ?

372 posted on 10/29/2012 6:28:54 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: dirtboy; GeronL
We are in the process of transitioning from a 20 billion dollar disaster to an 80 billion dollar disaster.

Tell it to GeronL. He thinks it's all a big joke.

373 posted on 10/29/2012 6:29:33 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: EternalHope

I remember reading or watching something about the NY subway system a while back. I believe they said that the subway system has much of it’s original wiring and control systems still in use. Things that they didn’t have spare parts for.


374 posted on 10/29/2012 6:30:19 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Betis70

375 posted on 10/29/2012 6:32:54 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: FReepers
On the headline portion of the scanner link posted earlier:

Multiple people in the water. Bellevue hospital taking on water. Most of lower Manhattan flooded with no power.

376 posted on 10/29/2012 6:33:25 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Windflier
God Bless America!

Amen, W

377 posted on 10/29/2012 6:34:32 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: RummyChick

fe Urgancı ‏@efeurganci building collapsed on 8th av&14th #Sandy #NYC #eastcoast i never seen like this!!!!
378 posted on 10/29/2012 6:35:16 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: matt04
I remember reading or watching something about the NY subway system a while back. I believe they said that the subway system has much of it’s original wiring and control systems still in use. Things that they didn’t have spare parts for.

Just. Wow. :(

379 posted on 10/29/2012 6:35:26 PM PDT by EternalHope (Politicians will always let you down. -- Sarah Palin)
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To: Windflier; dirtboy

Some FReepers just hate anything to do with the Northeast, no matter how bad or who is affected. It is sad.


380 posted on 10/29/2012 6:36:01 PM PDT by Betis70 ("Leading from Behind" gets your Ambassador killed)
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