Rush:I still go back and measure everything against 2010. ...what's happened since then?

Do you believe that? I know you'll take it, and I know some of you probably will believe that there has been a bunch of people on the Republican side depressed and suppressed and despondent, but I don't. I think Republican enthusiasm has been "get me to the polling place yesterday" for two years. See, I still go back and measure everything against 2010. And then I ask myself, what's happened since then? Has Obama gotten more likable? No. Has the economy gotten any better? No. Has employment improved? No. Number of people in poverty come down? No. Has median family income risen? No. Number of people on food stamps gone down? No.

There's no improvement. There's nothing. The housing market zilch, zero, nada. Kids coming out of college with degrees, job prospects, not better. Nothing has improved since 2010. What happened in 2010? Republican landslide, all the way down the ballot to dogcatcher. The Democrats lost over 600 seats, legislative seats in Congress and statehouses all the way down to city council, 600-plus. And there wasn't a Republican on the ballot, and there wasn't a Republican agenda. What there was was the Tea Party and a bunch of conservatives rising up saying, "This is not the future of the country. This is not what we're gonna put up with. We're not gonna tolerate this. This is not who we are."

Now we got a candidate. Now we've got an agenda. We've got even more in our favor than we had in 2010. So where is it written that the enthusiasm would be down in the gutter and even need to be resurrected by 23 points? I mean, I'll take it, don't misunderstand, and I understand some people's enthusiasm, you watch the media, you get all depressed.

Here is what you wrote:
I really cannot buy into the claim made by you of “20-30 MILLION” stolen (Dem) votes in 2008.
While I am convinced there was some of this happening I don’t believe it remotely approached the level you indicated.

Here is the part I previously wrote that you referenced:

Obama may have stolen the 2008 election with seven or ten million fraudulent votes.
They would have to fabricate 20 or 30 million votes to win this one,(i.e. 2012) and that would start a war for sure.

7-10 Million votes stolen or fraudulently created may seem like a lot of fraudulent votes, but that is only from one part of the Democrat fraud machine that has been growing since the Motor Voter Act went into effect about 20 years ago. Before that, the Democrats had perfected myriad manual processes for cheating dating back to the Civil War days.

Here's a link that hints at just the Latino fraudulent registrations:
Voter Suppression Laws May Discourage 10 Million Hispanics, Study Finds

Ohio, by itself, has purged a Half Million dead and duplicate voters from its registration rolls, mostly in the big city areas that went heavily for Obama in 2008.

Florida tried to purge 2,600, which got trimmed down to just a few hundred by DOJ lawsuits.

Texas had several hundred thousand bogus registrations they needed to purge, and they got sued.

IN, CO, NM, and several other states, have massive bogus registrations that need to be purged. The more bogus registrations, the more potential to create bogus votes by various methods.

When you consider the massive registration fraud that went on in 2008 by the Obama yutes, led by Acorn, SEIU, teachers unions, and others, in all the big cities, 7-10 Million is vastly understating the potential for fraud.

For instance, one school in one Democrat neighborhood holds voting for five or six precincts. School is out on election day, but the unionized teachers are there, and assembled in several rooms up and down the hall from the voting area (the gym or cafeteria, for instance). The teachers are filling out ballots for all the no-show voters, duplicate and dead voters, and all the cats and dogs that managed to get registered to vote. Later, someone drops the ballots into the box and signs the empty slots in the registration book. That's a few hundred or a few thousand per precinct.

There are 3,033 organized county or county-equivalent governments in the United States according to 2007 Census of Governments. There are tens of thousands of precincts.

Without voter fraud, there would be very few Democrats elected anywhere outside the big cities. You can do your own Google search for "voter turnout exceeds 100 percent". You'll find that all the articles refer to Democrat strongholds.

No. I said Republican enthusiasm was likely very high. I also suspect Democratic enthusiasm is greatly diminished from *2008*. I agree that most polls show independents have swung to Romney. Nevertheless, I was answering a specific question posed by Rush: Why is 2012 different than 2010?

And that is, 2010 was a midterm, 2012 is a presidential.

In 2006, 80 million voters turned out. In 2010, 90 million. So a watershed wave election was accomplished with turning out 10 million more voters. But that is because only 37 percent of the voting age population votes in mid-terms. In 2008, in contrast, 57 percent of the eligible population voted, the most since 1968 (50 years).

Conservatives tend to poll better with likely voters than registered voters. So every time you increase turnout *overall*—and not just among conservatives—you weaken conservative chances. In a presidential year, turnout will be probably 50 percent higher (~60 percent versus ~40 percent) than in a midterm. So accomplishing the same kind of dominance as in 2010—while possible—will require much greater effort on our part.

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