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The Empty Chair Is Losing (Obama is headed for defeat in November and it won't be close)
American Thinker ^ | 09/14/2012 | William Gensert

Posted on 09/14/2012 4:21:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

President Obama is headed to defeat in November, and it won't be close. Forget about the polls, and forget about the cadre of delusional Democrats who can't stop telling us how great and successful the last three and a half years have been. Slick Willy can shill all he likes, but seriously, he's preaching to the choir, because the only ones believing his shtick are bought and paid for sycophants, crony capitalists, and members of the mainstream media.

Can you think of a single person who didn't vote for Barack Obama in 2008 but will vote for him this time around? Yet it is easy to find former minions admitting to the dissolution of their belief in the primacy of the "one." These people will not vote for him again -- and they are legion.

Pols like Bill Clinton say what they have to say, and election polls are often designed to say what the designers want them to say. But Americans, ever the social creatures they are, remembering the hopes and dreams they had for a better world in 2008 -- and the hopes and dreams they have today for a better tomorrow -- are reluctant to tell someone taking a poll that they don't like Barack Obama. It doesn't matter how well a case can be made against the man's disastrous and disgraceful leadership; guilt can often preclude telling a stranger they plan to vote against the black guy -- especially today, when all opposition to the president is framed as racist.

Yet, at some point, that curtain closes in the voting booth, and a decision has to be made as to which candidate is better for voters, their children, and the future of America.

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1 posted on 09/14/2012 4:21:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Yet it is easy to find former minions admitting to the dissolution of their belief in the primacy of the "one." These people will not vote for him again -- and they are legion.

If they were dumb enough to vote for him the first time who knows how they will vote this time--the MSM is in a full press mode and has tremendous sway over these types
2 posted on 09/14/2012 4:31:29 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: SeekAndFind

“Slick Willy can shill all he likes,...”
Bubba is the rapist-in-chief, impeached president and disbarred lawyer. Great role model for the rats.


3 posted on 09/14/2012 4:31:39 AM PDT by duckman (Dr Ben Carlson: Vision Not Division.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Another excellent article posted by SeekAndFind!

Thanks!


4 posted on 09/14/2012 4:32:16 AM PDT by tsowellfan ("Real leaders don't follow polls. Real leaders change polls")
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To: SeekAndFind
Yet, at some point, that curtain closes in the voting booth

Nope.

It won't even get to that point.

The dopes who got all riled up on hope and change in 2008 won't show up to the polling places. On the other hand, the Tea Party will show up in droves. Broken glass time, folks.


Stay home and smoke some more dope you unemployed idiots.

5 posted on 09/14/2012 4:32:54 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have been doing my own survey on this topic for the last few months in New York and I have not found 1 person who is switching TO Obama but several that are switching AWAY from Obama.


6 posted on 09/14/2012 4:35:20 AM PDT by ardara
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To: SeekAndFind
Forget about the polls...

My only concern here is I said this very thing 4 years ago regarding Gov Palin and that guy from Arizona versu the Obamination and Joe biteme...

There are a LOT of stupid people out there who are easily swayed by the DNCmedia and Hollyweird/Entertaintment. Can they make it a repeat? I honestly can't say. Praying not.

Still, the polls this week have got me concerned.

7 posted on 09/14/2012 4:37:02 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: uncbob
If they were dumb enough to vote for him the first time who knows how they will vote this time...

Alas, my twin sister voted for him last time, and I've tried to get her to tell me who she plans on voting for this time. Not a peep. Truthfully, and judging from her emails and a little "reading-between-the-lines", I think she will vote for Romney, but won't admit it to me. I have other friends who admit their mistake and won't vote for him. As to the polls, I think there are legions of voters out there who are like my sister. Result? I think Obozo will lose even bigger than Carter did, and may even approach McGovern's loss.

8 posted on 09/14/2012 4:37:21 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If only... But never underestimate the number of idiots who vote on election day. In God’s hands now.


9 posted on 09/14/2012 4:39:51 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: SeekAndFind
...are reluctant to tell someone taking a poll that they don't like Barack Obama.

I don't get that. I have no problem saying that I hate his stinking guts.

10 posted on 09/14/2012 4:46:21 AM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney needs to get the economy back in focus and fast.


11 posted on 09/14/2012 4:49:31 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: uncbob
If they were dumb enough to vote for him the first time who knows how they will vote this time--the MSM is in a full press mode and has tremendous sway over these types

NOT THIS TIME! White guilt has been expunged! I realize voters have their dumber than dirt moments, but when they realize this, they correct the error.

A President who governs and whose character is in direct contrast to American Values is a loser.

12 posted on 09/14/2012 4:51:45 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I remember Carter and Kerry had leads in September and the media was crowing against the cowboy Reagan and cowboy Bush.


13 posted on 09/14/2012 4:52:53 AM PDT by AU72
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To: uncbob
If they were dumb enough to vote for him the first time who knows how they will vote this time--the MSM is in a full press mode and has tremendous sway over these types

There is that, but note that Obama pretty much has to get all of these dopes back, because he's not getting any of McCain's old votes.

14 posted on 09/14/2012 4:54:20 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“are reluctant to tell someone taking a poll that they don’t like Barack Obama”

Put Obama’s media cheerleaders into this category as well. For them it would be a career risk as well as a public humiliation.


15 posted on 09/14/2012 4:57:59 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: sirchtruth

I’m hoping so - first, we need to make the race card a null,
then we need to start dismantling ALL race-based laws and regulations in this country.


16 posted on 09/14/2012 4:59:36 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: SeekAndFind

Man, I hope this is true. But I cant shake the feeling Zero will win again :( The MSM is in full court press mode for him and they are not even trying to hide it...

and well, the US is full of morons :(


17 posted on 09/14/2012 5:01:11 AM PDT by wyowolf
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“Romney needs to get the economy back in focus and fast.”
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Unfortunately there is NO way to do that quickly. You cannot clean up a mess that took 100 years to make in 100 days. Things are going to get MUCH worse before there is a possibility of things getting better. This is my conviction.

We need a president and congress who would forgo the urge to “Do Something” and concentrate on UNDOING all the stupid things that have been done. I predict that you will see only the very slightest of undoing under Romney and if Obama contrives a way to stay in despite the wishes of the voters you will see full speed ahead into oblivion.


18 posted on 09/14/2012 5:02:09 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: sirchtruth
NOT THIS TIME! White guilt has been expunged! I realize voters have their dumber than dirt moments, but when they realize this, they correct the error.

I think it is worse than that. Beginning with "Obama gon pay fo my gas an mogaj", and every day thereafter, when Obama's true racial hatred became undeniable, closet racists felt vindicated.

19 posted on 09/14/2012 5:02:48 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (The Google thing is in the yard again. Sniffed the laundry, now it's looking in the septic tank.)
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To: Gorzaloon

I don’t think it’s “closet racists” that “feel vindicated”.

It’s more like “we’ve been bending over backwards for decades for these people because of long past offenses, and they not only don’t appreciate it, they hate us all the more. Screw ‘em.”


20 posted on 09/14/2012 5:05:19 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: SeekAndFind

New York city excitedly elected its first black mayor in 1989. Hhe did such a poor job that not only haven’t we had another since, but NYC has voted “R” for the past 20 years. One wonders what will happen in the wake of Obama.


21 posted on 09/14/2012 5:08:03 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: econjack

In an INTELLIGENT Electorate it SHOULD be 80-20 Romney. Sadly 50% pay NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES!!!! THAT’S why we have a 50-50 country!!!


22 posted on 09/14/2012 5:11:01 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: uncbob

Ohh, Yes, these mindless minions will vote for him again, it’s just ? unlike 4 years ago where they were so proud to declare it in public, now ? they will hide it and vote accordingly.


23 posted on 09/14/2012 5:16:29 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Alas Babylon!
This time around all the hype is gone.
The manufactured Messiah image is gone except on the hardcore believers.

24 posted on 09/14/2012 5:19:29 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think it is going to be a blowout of epic proportions

1) Obama’s support was MAXED-OUT last time- he got every vote he could possibly get because people were excited to elect the first black man - He has no where do go but Down.

2) McLame ‘s support was so weak only the addition of Palin kept it from being a blowout even moreso than it was. People were not excited to go vote for him. People may not be excited about Romney but they ARE excited to vote against Obama (a ham sandwich right now would get a significant number of votes) So.. there is nowhere to go but UP

It is even possible Romney might take NY or CA (my opinion only!) because he is NOT percieved there as a mean old right wing nutjob conservative by liberals, and Obama is such a total failure they may give him a try.

So... I am predicting Romney by 7 points


25 posted on 09/14/2012 5:23:57 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: RipSawyer

“We need a president and congress who would forgo the urge to “Do Something” and concentrate on UNDOING all the stupid things that have been done.”

Hold your cards, we have a BINGO!


26 posted on 09/14/2012 5:26:54 AM PDT by Walrus (Restoring America starts today! Let's roll!)
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To: MayflowerMadam

It is definitely in God`s hands.

We have to understand we`re up against a nationwide cult of personality. The minions who support 0bama love and worship him. He is their religion and their god. It`s wayyyy beyond agreement on matters of policy. They are emotionally wrapped up with him in very weird Chris Matthews-like ways. He could take the country off the fiscal cliff (which he most assuredly will if reelected), but these people simply cannot quit him. Don`t think for a minute they won`t show up in huge numbers for him again.

Our hope..our ONLY hope.. is turnout. We MUST prove the pollsters and pundits wrong at the voting precincts on election day. There`s no room for apathy or disgruntlement this time around.


27 posted on 09/14/2012 5:27:56 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

It’s really too bad that the first black president wasn’t a conservative.

Of course, 0bama’s skin color made him the perfect cypher for a fully indoctrinated Marxist to achieve the presidency and be shielded from criticism of his beliefs and policies.


28 posted on 09/14/2012 5:28:26 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: SeekAndFind

The key is how many of his supporters Zero can turn out. There’s a LOT of people who voted for the messiah in 2008 who are fed up with him now and simply won’t vote at all.


29 posted on 09/14/2012 5:29:02 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Worst. President. Ever.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
" Romney needs to get the economy back in focus and fast. "

Yes, that is true.... however ?

At this point in time ?

What issue has taken the front seat of urgency ?
Both issues, the economy and what is happening in the middle east and the world is just as equally important.
What goes on in the middle east and the world does effect out economy.
This is a very sensitive fine line tight rope balancing act that Romney needs to perform, and perform perfectly.
IF ?
He goes back and starts talking about the economy again ?
The MSM will criticize him of being out of touch of what is happening in the middle east... see ?
He's struck between a rock and a hard place.
The MSM knows exactly what they are doing and how to manipulate, mold and shape the sheeples way of thinking and opinion.
30 posted on 09/14/2012 5:29:56 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist
Yes, that is true.... however ?

Romney seems like the kind of guy who can handle foreign policy AND the economy at the same time. It's the kind of multi-tasking that is an absolute requirement for the job of POTUS, and it is an ability for which the muslim usurper is completely lacking.

31 posted on 09/14/2012 5:34:30 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Nuke Mecca.)
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To: Sirius Lee
I am not questioning Romney's ability to multitask and handle both issues.... what I am talking about is how the MSM will mold and shape the people's thinking and opinion that he's out of touch if he goes back and focuses on the economy again.
The sheeple ( not talking about informed conservatives ) who turn on the TV every night to see what's happening on America got talent or Dancing with the Stars have no glue of what is going on until they turn the channel to NBC, CBS, CNN and are spoon feed what Wolf Blitzer tells them what is so.
32 posted on 09/14/2012 5:42:26 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: SeekAndFind
Can you think of a single person who didn't vote for Barack Obama in 2008 but will vote for him this time around? Yet it is easy to find former minions admitting to the dissolution of their belief in the primacy of the "one." These people will not vote for him again -- and they are legion.

I'm hoping November 6 will be like July 26, 1943 in Italy--the day after Mussolini was overthrown. On that day, you could travel from Marsala to Brenner and not find an Italian who would admit to having been a Fascist.

33 posted on 09/14/2012 5:44:05 AM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: RipSawyer
I predict that you will see only the very slightest of undoing under Romney

That's my opinion too. He's already talking about taking 2 years to get the budget in order. In 2 years, there's another election. He should make cuts immediately (regs and $) and allow the markets to correct before getting back into more elections (imo). Any cuts will be painful for a while but need to happen soon or they never will.

34 posted on 09/14/2012 5:45:39 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: ardara

Me too. But that total number has to be somewhere around 4 m. There is a net GOP gain in numbers of voters taken off the rolls of 714,000. Obama won by 9m votes. Figure this time 1 m Obama voters stay home (low, but let’s be conservative). So that brings us to 7.2m magic number, meaning you have to flip 4m votes nationally. Now, when you just start with Republicans (15-25%) who voted for him, you shave another 1m off. So iI figure Romney has to flip just over 3m indies nd Dems net.


35 posted on 09/14/2012 5:47:39 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Fiji Hill

My scan of the postings to leftist or Lame-stream articles continues to show an overwhelming distaste for the O’crapper Administration.....I think O’Romney will manage to not screw up enough to win and it will be Akin by 10 in MO to the chagrin of the FR Rovian club!


36 posted on 09/14/2012 5:51:40 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Alas Babylon!

I remember that, too. There was a disbelieving bunker mentality here on FR, right up to the end.
The enemedia might be using the polls to manipulate the public, but you can’t disregard them.


38 posted on 09/14/2012 5:54:11 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Exactly. Focus on the bad economical figures and TIE IT TO OBAMA’S POLICIES AND SPENDING.
Yes foreign policy matters but most Americans are more concerned with their lack of work and ability to afford food and gas.


39 posted on 09/14/2012 5:57:46 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: SeekAndFind

Replacing an empty chair with an empty suit.

What progress.

/s


40 posted on 09/14/2012 5:57:49 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The opposite of compromise is character." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Alas Babylon!

“Still, the polls this week have got me concerned.”

That’s that the lamestream wants. Don’t be disheartened. The polls are skewed and don’t mean anything at this point. Watch Ohio, Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, Iowa, Wisconsin...later.


41 posted on 09/14/2012 5:58:48 AM PDT by Mountain Mary (R and R: Please don't Barney Fife us and load your political revolver with only one bullet. (DO))
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To: Mountain Mary

Just now-—

MATT DRUDGE on Twitter: Most accurate poll ‘08 [http://bit.ly/uE1pMD] will report this morning: Romney 48% Obama 45%. Reality? Would explain media freakin this week.


42 posted on 09/14/2012 5:59:46 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: sirchtruth
NOT THIS TIME! White guilt has been expunged! I realize voters have their dumber than dirt moments, but when they realize this, they correct the error. A President who governs and whose character is in direct contrast to American Values is a loser.

I hope you are right and it becomes like A Woman Scorned and if you are right I hope the MSM will also feel their wrath as they try and prop Obama up
43 posted on 09/14/2012 6:14:12 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: SeekAndFind

I think the second time around the Bradley effect will reassert itself.


44 posted on 09/14/2012 6:22:33 AM PDT by monocle
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm optimistic about this coming election but there are some inescapable facts that we must grapple with:

- Nearly 50% of the nation pays no taxes
- A large percentage of our population are on welfare and food stamps

The above two groups (though they overlap) will never, ever vote for a Republican because they will either make them pay taxes or take their goodies away.

Then we have a subset of people who are so emotionally invested in Obama and so buy into the phony "hope and change" meme that they will vote for Obama no matter what.

Our saving grace is that many of those on welfare and collecting food stamps will not get to the polls. So long as their basic needs are provided for, they will be content to sit on their couches and watch TV because having to put on shoes and get out to a voting booth is really too much of a hassle for them. While they will tell you they are big Obama supporters, they really couldn't be bothered to act on it because they are by nature lazy, work-shy and slothful.

Still, Obama is going to get his 40-45% of the vote no matter what.

The upside is that 45-48% is probably the upper limit of the vote total he will get on November 6 and he will thus be turned out of office. However, probably not the landslide we are wishing for due to the factors above.

Many here state that it is our misfortune to have Romney as the candidate and that some other, more conservative candidate, would win by a larger margin. I just don't see that. While I wish we had a more conservative candidate, remember that Obama is going to get 40-45% no matter what. A more conservative candidate will almost certainly drive some of those independents to Obama's camp and make this an even closer race.

45 posted on 09/14/2012 6:23:47 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: tsowellfan
...the only ones believing his shtick are bought and paid for sycophants, crony capitalists, and members of the mainstream media.

You're right - SeekAndFind's finding the good stuff...

46 posted on 09/14/2012 6:25:54 AM PDT by GOPJ (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T. Jefferson)
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To: Mr. K

A “ham sandwich”? I’d say a “crap sandwich” would win.


47 posted on 09/14/2012 6:28:00 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Mountain Mary; Alas Babylon!
The radio station I listen to in the morning had some shill from CBS touting their latest poll that had Obama up by 9.

Very Loudly. "up by 9! Up by 9!"

Then the radio jock asked "Yes, but what were the demographics? Your other poll of likely voters says Obama's lead is within the MOE. What about that?"

Crickets. It was sort of like the "Eleven" scene from "This is Spinal Tap". "Yes, but this poll has him up by Nine."

I love the radio show I listen to in the morning. I've no idea what the host's politics are. He does a good job in skewering everyone. :-)

48 posted on 09/14/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by wbill
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To: SeekAndFind

We’re all 0bama’s 0sama!


49 posted on 09/14/2012 6:35:29 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
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To: ardara; SeekAndFind; South Hawthorne

My concern lies less with the votes cast, than with who counts them. I understand this will be done overseas (Spain?) What kind of oversight are our “leaders” (hahahaha) providing for this process?

I’ve also posed this question: Let’s say it’s “close” — and we know the State Run Media will use that term broadly. But let’s say it is, and The Muslim simply deems (a la Villaraigosa at the Commie Convention) himself to have won. I want to know, what happens? Who stops him? I have zip, zero, nada confidence that Congress will — what have they done about any of his other illegalities? Yeah, I know this goes into tinfoil hat territory, but imagine how crazy it would’ve sounded in say, September 2001, if someone told you an unvetted Commie/Muslim sympathizer would be president just a couple of years later.


50 posted on 09/14/2012 6:41:03 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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