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1 posted on 08/12/2012 1:55:04 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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>> When the Chinese came in with older solar technology that was simply cheaper, none of our new ideas could compete... It was over instantly... Al Gore as a venture capitalist working with Kleiner, Perkins highlights the errors.

heh.

This isn’t some wet-behind-the-ears pundit pontificating, either.

John Dvorak KNOWS.


2 posted on 08/12/2012 2:05:40 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Love the cult, respect the leader, but I simply can't drink the koolaid and die.)
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Not sure what HP’s status is, but I just purchased a laptop from them that blows me away. It’s my second HP.

I don’t have to have the latest and greatest, but this is an amazing machine, and I’d recommend it others without hesitation. I’ve never had a problem with the HP it replaces either.

It was purchased through Costco’s web shopping resource.

The only downside, and even that was handled very smoothly, it shipped from Hong Kong.

I didn’t realize that was going to happen when I ordered it.


4 posted on 08/12/2012 2:11:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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As I recall, Meg Whitman almost killed Hewlett Packard during her first stint there. So, now she’s supposed to rescue it?


5 posted on 08/12/2012 2:12:13 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The whole ‘green enery - green jobs’ thing has been just another instrument to suck the oxygen out of the American economy. The architects are all having a big laugh at our expense.

Dvorak, ass that he is, is occasionally right on the money. This is one of those times.


6 posted on 08/12/2012 2:15:31 PM PDT by Noumenon (Obama 2012: Zimbabwe without the airfare)
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SV bump


8 posted on 08/12/2012 2:17:55 PM PDT by BuddaBudd (F U B O)
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Yikes !! I’m sitting at an H-P right now.

The article does drift away from the subject, but it really makes me wonder how any Lib techies could ever dream of another four years of Obama, and I know there’s a lot of Lib techies out there. Talk about slitting your own throat.


9 posted on 08/12/2012 2:22:10 PM PDT by Dartman
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Of all the issues I saw with “Green” killing an economy, this is one in did not think of

If you follow Moore's law 18 months rule on technology turnover think how many rounds of American re-investments "seed" capital have been sucked into "green smoke" dead ends ..

Add in the government weight drawing money down these holes and America technology lead evaporates in a blink of an eye...

Capital is the blood of an economy ...Americas economy dies when its Capital bleeds out ...and "green" is a bleeding wound

10 posted on 08/12/2012 2:22:30 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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Carly killed HP.


11 posted on 08/12/2012 2:32:20 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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Dvorak writes this column from the point of view of "I saw this coming, unlike all the other dorks of Silicon Valley."

Can anyone point me to a Dvorak column of - say - two years ago, in which he predicted that Solyndra would be a boondoggle.

I was there a couple of months ago, by the way. Stayed in Milpitas. Saw the giant Solyndra plant by the side of 880. It's not the only one, though. There's at least one more big Solyndra office building in Milpitas that's looking for a tenant. Along with what looked to me to be about 15% of all the office space in Silicon Valley (at least at the southern end of it) judging from the "Rent Me" signs I observed when driving around.

Amazing number of Chinese people there, that's for sure.

14 posted on 08/12/2012 2:35:53 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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i guess hp learned NOTHING from the Fiorina fiasco...
17 posted on 08/12/2012 2:41:03 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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The purchase of EDS is hurting them. They took a huge write down. Leadership was in shambles with Mark Hurd’s exit.

One thing that is not mentioned enough is constant lawsuits. These CEOs hate each other: Ellison, Jobs, Whitman, Carly.

The HP name will never go away, but the prospect of growth will.

As for Solyndra, in the real world they would have to demonstrate scalability and cost for alot less than $500 million. When the government is paying, these limitations are removed.


18 posted on 08/12/2012 2:43:19 PM PDT by cicero2k
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Rated one of the worst companies to work for. I used to work for Digital Equipment Corp and HP killed everything that was good. Itanium, Alpha, OSF/1, the list is huge. They shipped all of VMS engineering to India, know a LOT of people that got effected by that.

HP-SUX!


20 posted on 08/12/2012 2:50:55 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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But ... but ... this little confection is CEO of Yahoo!

30 posted on 08/12/2012 3:36:32 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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They should have kept the awesome TouchPad tablet, released the 7” version they already had, and promoted WebOS to the 4 million devices they fire-sale sold last year.


33 posted on 08/12/2012 3:59:31 PM PDT by montag813
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Silicon Valley succumbed to the siren of free government money.

But at least we have Facebook.


40 posted on 08/12/2012 5:04:07 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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Just goes to show what happens when you go whoring after a subsidized fad.
43 posted on 08/12/2012 5:23:26 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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Used to work for a contractor packaging their ink cartridges 5 years ago.
I could not believe the waste and inefficiency.
Bureaucracy gone wild.
Plant’s closed down now and it’s done in Mexico.

OTOH love their desktops, great value.


50 posted on 08/12/2012 6:41:51 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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HP-s malaise started at least as far back as the early 2000s, when Palm and Blackberry were showing the merger of computing and cell phones - Palm got spun out of 3Com in 1999-2000, HP could have scooped it up but didn’t. Apple’s iPhone hits the market in 2007 and, belatedly, 2010, HP finally buys Palm.

What had HP done during that time? It bought EDS; as if it was mimicking IBM’s successful transformation, from a computer company to a global computer services company. HP needed it’s own vision and it’s own business model - not IBMs.

If HP wants the rest of the idea they can pay me for it.


51 posted on 08/12/2012 6:52:36 PM PDT by Wuli
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Having Carly Fiorino at the helm of the company didn’t help any.

I hope Meg can save HP. Their Proliant servers are the best Intel based servers in the industry. And their switches are pretty spectacular too.

Mark


52 posted on 08/12/2012 9:20:00 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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Carly put H-P on death watch, they still haven’t recovered from that disaster. Hopefully they can, but when you decide R&D is not important and you are a technology innovation company, you pretty much ensure your death.

Carly and those that followed turned HP from an innovation company into nothing but a commodity company, and you only make about 7% if that on commodity products.

Its a damned shame what has been done to HP


61 posted on 08/14/2012 8:47:42 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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