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Is the CA GOP dead? Maybe...
Breitbart.com ^ | 08/08/12 | Adam Sparks

Posted on 08/09/2012 8:55:46 AM PDT by sfwarrior

The NY Times just wrote about the demise of the CA GOP. It claimed its dramatic loss in voter registration, now just 30% of the state's voters, is due to the fact that the party has run out of ideas popular with the electorate and that it has grown increasingly conservative, out of step with independents who decide elections. Yes, the GOP has declined to insignificant status. It's minority status is now so small it can no longer block any legislation or budget that Gov. Brown and the Dems want. We live in a one party state. The state GOP simply sits in the legislature, relegated merely as silent observers watching in agony at the demolition of its state.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca2012; cagop; california; conservative; democrat; gop; republican
There is some life left, maybe, and onlyl if Prop. 32 passes, otherwise, game over for the CA GOP.
1 posted on 08/09/2012 8:55:53 AM PDT by sfwarrior
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To: sfwarrior

One answer....divide the state into two states. Los Angeles and San Francisco go to Southern Calif. Most of Northern Calif is Republican anyway.


2 posted on 08/09/2012 8:59:43 AM PDT by RC2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDMeDmV0ufU)
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To: sfwarrior

Arnold ain’t saying he’ll be back, and no one wants him. Funny how things change. Remember when the RINOs were telling conservatives that Arnold and California were the example for how the Republican Party should go?


3 posted on 08/09/2012 9:01:50 AM PDT by pallis
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To: RC2

More conservatives are the answer, not more milk toast moderates, who go along to get along. (Arnold)


4 posted on 08/09/2012 9:03:29 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Common sense although common knowledge is seldom common practice.)
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To: sfwarrior

The demise of the Republican party in California simply means Americans have been out bred by aliens. California’s fate merely points to the method by which America is being conquered by the Third World.


5 posted on 08/09/2012 9:03:58 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: sfwarrior
I lived there till '05. My observation is that there is a small minority of true conservatives in kal. But the "republican party" is more aligned with the democratic party of old and the democratic party is rank communist.

And kalifornistan will never, ever, never divide into two separate states. There's too much money to be stolen by the pigs in Sacramento for them to allow that to happen.

6 posted on 08/09/2012 9:04:06 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: sfwarrior
Dead? I thought rigor mortis set in LONG ago!!
7 posted on 08/09/2012 9:05:45 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: sfwarrior

In the future, students will study the resulting demise of a once-great state when it willingly adopted a political system known as “ONE PARTY RULE”.
It has worked so very well everywhere it’s been tried.
California has two problems, those flocking IN and those who are sadly ESCAPING. The “takers” and the “makers”


8 posted on 08/09/2012 9:05:53 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf ( NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: sfwarrior

The problem dooming California is that even if 32 is passed, enterprising judges will be easily found to get it declared unconstitutional...as they have all of the other good propositions that have been passed by the voters over the years.

An aside...this is exactly what the entire nation has in front of it should Obama get a second term. The country will be unrecognizable and in the iron grip of the Marxist/Fascists for at least generations.


9 posted on 08/09/2012 9:13:48 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: sfwarrior

2003 was the end of the CAGoP. It failed to deliver and now we all pay thru the nose and pocketbooks for Rinos on steroids who spent like drunken DemocRats and partied with them while the state burned.


10 posted on 08/09/2012 9:16:06 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: sfwarrior
...if Prop. 32 passes...

It will be voided by ONE judge.

California will only be mitigated by producers moving their treasure, income, production and maybe even themselves out of state.

11 posted on 08/09/2012 9:16:59 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Bingo. White Christian America is dying. We are being overrun with third world savages and if the demographic trend continues, the hard working, patriotic people that made this country great will be a minority within a few decades. When that happens, the country is finished. Of course, we might not even last long enough to let the illegal alien hordes tear us apart. We seem to be bent on our own self destruction.


12 posted on 08/09/2012 9:17:47 AM PDT by Astronaut
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To: CaptainAmiigaf
California has two problems, those flocking IN and those who are sadly ESCAPING. The “takers” and the “makers”

My wife and I left in 1997 to follow our careers as opportunities disappeared in California. Since then, the state's extreme leftist politics and liberal judicial system overturning the rare conservative proposition victories have combined to kill whatever desire we might have had to return.

13 posted on 08/09/2012 9:21:26 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: sfwarrior
is due to the fact that the party has run out of ideas popular with the electorate and that it has grown increasingly conservative, out of step with independents who decide elections

Huh!? HARD LEFT california passed stuff like the Prop 187 and Prop 8 and conservatives are going extinct?

14 posted on 08/09/2012 9:22:14 AM PDT by SwankyC
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To: sfwarrior

Could be. All the sane conservatives are moving to TX and AZ. It will really get interesting when there are no more producers and the number of public parasites keeps growing.


15 posted on 08/09/2012 9:23:14 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: stocksthatgoup

I don’t believe that will ever happen. Especially when looking at all the illegals in California and no voter ID. They will stuff the ballot box. It’s a welfare state and it won’t change as long as we keep handing out money and medical services to illegals.


16 posted on 08/09/2012 9:26:10 AM PDT by RC2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDMeDmV0ufU)
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To: sfwarrior

The Protestant vote is dead in California.


17 posted on 08/09/2012 9:31:05 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: txrefugee
To make matters worse, the State Legislature is in the process of passing a new law giving Calpers style pensions to all workers in the state who don't have employer sponsored programs. This is to eliminate the “pension envy” which has aroused the voters. Rather than reform the abused pension system, which is broke, they are going to expand it. We are organizing our departure. This fall we will survey both AZ and TX to see where we want to settle. We expect that we can buy a house for about 1/3 of CA prices. We hate to leave the San Diego weather, but we will have more money to travel in the hot seasons.
18 posted on 08/09/2012 9:32:45 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
The demise of the Republican party in California simply means Americans have been out bred by aliens.

I remember some of us pointing that out here 10 years ago -- demographics is destiny. Uncontrolled illegal immigration will have the same result across the entire U.S. Many here are getting so much enjoyment out of hating CA they don't see what's happening in their own back yards.

19 posted on 08/09/2012 9:40:41 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Astronaut

I totally agree with you.


20 posted on 08/09/2012 9:46:01 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: sfwarrior

The whole friggin state is dead!!!


21 posted on 08/09/2012 9:56:45 AM PDT by kenmcg (t)
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To: Astronaut

That is so right; look how our uninformed Republican primary voters saddled us with another liberal nominee this year. People are too uninformed to save the country.


22 posted on 08/09/2012 10:05:48 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

“The demise of the Republican party in California simply means Americans have been out bred by aliens. California’s fate merely points to the method by which America is being conquered by the Third World.”

It’s called “Death By Penis!” The Mexicans only social “outlet” is procreation. And they are even better at it than the Blacks here in California, which is saying a lot!
We are just getting used to the “Beaner Music” blaring from car radios that have been turned all the way up and had the volume knobs pulled off!


23 posted on 08/09/2012 10:24:16 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: sfwarrior
I hate to rain on the gloom and doom party but the original article and many posters here have it wrong.

A. The Dems cannot just pass anything they want. The most important fact is that prop 13 is still in effect so they need a 2/3 majority to increase taxes or fees. And they do not have enough votes and the June primary results indicate they will not get it.

B. Judges do not overturn every good initiative. Far from it. Prop 13, Prop 209, the CA initiative forbidding racial preferences, even Prop 8, the traditional marriage initiative are still in effect. The Left has taken them to court many times and always lost.

C. Moonbeam's tax raising initiative is in big trouble. Even with a full court press by the media about the terrible things that will happen if it does not pass, the voters ain't buying it. He made a strategic blunder by including a sales tax increase, which everyone including the illegals has to pay. The voters here seldom vote to increase their own taxes.

Rumors of the death of the CAGOP are greatly exaggerated.

And BTW, the article was not well researched. Meg Whitman became CEO of HP after the election.
24 posted on 08/09/2012 10:48:33 AM PDT by fifedom
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YORBA LINDA (1994) — Former Republican Cabinet Secretary Jack F. Kemp . . . defended his condemnation of Proposition 187, the illegal immigration reform measure on the Nov. 8 state ballot . . . [it was] his first public discussion of his opposition to the initiative [and] puts him at odds with the state Republican Party . . . [Kemp] told the audience not to "scapegoat the problems of California on immigrants because they are not the source of the problem" . . . [both] Kemp and William J. Bennett, another former Republican Cabinet secretary, had prepared a statement strongly opposing the anti-immigration initiative . . . Kemp and Bennett . . . believe Proposition 187 . . . may "contribute to a nativist, anti-immigrant climate." . . . Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Huntington Beach) issued a stinging rebuke of Kemp. "His act of stupidity has knocked him right out of the presidential race," Rohrabacher told reporters. "If he disagreed with it, he should have kept his mouth shut. . . . Jack Kemp wants to be loved. The man is using his heart, but that's not the organ of the body meant for thinking." [End of quotes from a LA Times article]

That was the beginning -- even before we passed Prop187 by about 60/40 and where about 30 percent of Californians came out to vote solely because of the Save Our State initiative -- of years of Kemp, Bennett, Jeb Bush, and the like condemnation and name-calling of the California Republican Party and its "wrong-headed," "mean-spirited," "bigoted," "racist," "hateful," "anti-immigration" policies. They wanted the Republicans to be more sensitive while opposing big taxes and too much regulations. Basically, it seems to me, making them Democrats who oppose high taxes and too many regulations on businesses.

The state Republicans agreed with the national Republican elites' stupidity and it knocked the state Republicans right out of statewide races.. I think that the Republicans have won three state-wide races since then.. Wilson (1994), an insurance commissioner (he was recalled IIRC), and Schwarzenkennedy.

25 posted on 08/09/2012 11:10:08 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: sfwarrior

It’s dead Jim.


26 posted on 08/09/2012 11:14:12 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SwankyC
Prop 187 was a generation ago.

The fact is Democrats have run both halves of the California legislature continuously for 40 years with the exception of two years for the assembly in '95/'96.

Conservatives couldn't get elected dog catcher in 85% of CA.

27 posted on 08/09/2012 12:33:45 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Spread the word: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2915810/posts)
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Ok, so what. Prop 8 was a week ago and conservatives get elected to California everywhere except San Fran and parts of L.A.

Yes, communists still completely control the assembly tho.

28 posted on 08/09/2012 1:47:44 PM PDT by SwankyC
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To: newzjunkey
Ok, so what. Prop 8 was a week ago and conservatives get elected to California everywhere except San Fran and parts of L.A.

Yes, communists still completely control the assembly tho.

29 posted on 08/09/2012 1:47:53 PM PDT by SwankyC
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